Feeling torn about being kept sheltered

ltasn

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Bear with me as this is kind of complicated.

So I am new to poly relationships and have sort of fallen into this but with a giant leap of faith there at the end.

My partner and I are long distance. We video chat every day and randomly message throughout. He and his wife have totally embraced me into their lives and we all sit around talking as well as me and her forming a lovely friendship.

Now the issue is, he has a solely online relationship with someone, lets call her A. I know her (in an online capacity) and she knows I have found myself in a solid relationship but not with whom. He doesn't want me to tell her, and hasn't told her himself, as she is a very, lets say, needy drama queen and he doesn't want any flack to fall on me from A and her friends. His wife and I are the only ones who know of all his attachments and he is kind of in the process of reevaluating things as there are definitely 2, A included, that he is questioning.

Although it doesn't sound like it, he is a very open and honest guy and this is really messing with him and frankly, if it wasn't for the flack he would get I would just tell A and let her deal with it.

So how do I deal with this? I don't want to lie to A so I have been deflecting her questions but last night she flat out asked him if he and I were in a relationship. I want him to tell her, he thinks it will cause all sorts of issues which I think he is just afraid to deal with and the fact it will force his hand to decided if he continues in the relationship with her. TBH she uses him as an escape from her not so rosy real life situation and heaps all her problems and insecurities on him. The wife thinks it is funny, but also that he should just tell her and gets a "bad vibe" from her although she has no relationship with her other then knowing she exists.

Poly is all new to me and to some extent, to him and his wife as well, so we are all learning together. This particular situation is the one cloud in an otherwise fantastic, life growing, experience.
 
I'm leaning "if she asked, he should answer", but I get that life can be messy.

What kind of "issues" or consequences are we talking about here? Broken social groups? Slut-shaming you?
If she's really this problematic, I'm not sure these can be avoided now. He can't really keep it secret forever, and if he breaks up with her now, she's already got the suspicion and can spread rumours as she wishes.

He's showing some weak boundaries here. It is a bit weird to be in an (albeit online) relationship with someone whom you can't trust with the names of your other partners.

Still, this is really his decision to make, your part is to a) tell him that you're ready to deal with issues, as you have stated clearly here, b) be clear on what level of honesty you expect from a partner and speak up (or worst case break up) if they don't meet the bar.
 
Hello ltasn,

This is kind of an aside, and correct me if I read wrong, but it sounds like A does know that your partner is married, and it sounds like A does know who your partner's wife is. And if that's true, you would think he would tell A who you are, too. Does A know that your partner has both a wife and two girlfriends? If not, maybe he should tell her. It sounds like she already suspects. I'm not sure how long he can avoid her needy drama.

All that said, I guess my vote is that this is a problem for your partner to solve (or not solve), it is not really your call, the ball is not in your court. If he's uncomfortable with being dishonest, it's probably because discomfort is appropriate in this situation, given the way he is handling it. So let him feel uncomfortable, and let him figure out what to do about that. As Tinwen said, tell him that you are okay with taking the potential flack from A and her friends ... then let him decide.

My 2¢,
Kevin T.
 
Thanks for the replies.

I am of that opinion and thought he should have said when she flat out asked (I was video chatting with him and his wife at the time she messaged him) But he deflected the question with an "Why would it make a difference if I was?" to her. She does know he is married and does know about his other connection. A and I are in the same time zone, although still some distance apart. (there is no chance of us bumping into one another) He is purely worried about the backlash online and nastiness that will ensue against me and maybe the loss of a couple of close platonic online friends of his. Only one of our mutual online friends know about him and I. I am 100% confident this person won't say anything, even to his partner (he is in a long distance poly relationship as well) but things have a way of getting out and I just feel it will be worse when they do.

I think I will articulate my opinion about it one more time, that he should tell her honestly if she asks again and leave it at that. I'll have a chat to his wife as well, we tend to have the same opinions on everything (poor him! lol) From previous conversations she would be happy for him to cut ties as her observation is that the connection brings little joy to her husband. She tells me she can tell who he is talking to just by his look and voice.

Thanks again. This is such a learning curve for us all and I have been giving him the benefit of the doubt that he is in as much learning mode as I am.
 
Why everyone is avoiding dealing with A because she's a "needy drama queen" and will make some "online drama?" Like WHAT?

It sounds like a lot of walking on eggshells. What for? :confused:

frankly, if it wasn't for the flack he would get I would just tell A and let her deal with it.

You could just tell her then.

And if she rains flak on him? That's HER behavior. And HIS problem. Not yours.

He is purely worried about the backlash online and nastiness that will ensue against me

You sound like YOU are willing to deal with it if she does.

and maybe the loss of a couple of close platonic online friends of his.

If the friendship is SO fragile how solid of a friendship was it to begin with?

last night she flat out asked him if he and I were in a relationship. I want him to tell her, he thinks it will cause all sorts of issues which I think he is just afraid to deal with and the fact it will force his hand to decided if he continues in the relationship with her.

Are you saying...

He's thinking about breaking up with her and hasn't decided yet.
She's catching wind of something being up and is pressing him on who else he's dating (you.)
He doesn't want to answer that right now because he wants more time to make a decision?

How much more time? What else is there to decide if he's unhappy?IS he unhappy?

TBH she uses him as an escape from her not so rosy real life situation and heaps all her problems and insecurities on him.
Is that why he dates her? So he can be the "hero" and he likes that part?

If you discover his break up style is like this -- drags on and on and then he keeps oversharing his partner probs with you and his wife? And you and wife talk about his other partners with each other? Is that stuff fun for you?

Do you want to be doing that every time he is thinking about breaking up with someone?

Or do you prefer he deal with his things himself and not involve you? Or more firmly rather than dragging things out?

Things you can do on YOUR end that YOU control that I can see:

1) You choose to stay here with nothing changed.

2) You choose make some changes.
  • You just tell her you also date him. And let the chips fall where they fall.
  • You don't tell her anything right now. Instead you tell him you no longer want to hear about his A. problems because he's avoiding addressing them her and then oversharing/dumping his stress about it on you. He can deal with her or keep on avoiding her, but he can STOP involving you. And if she asks YOU direct, you plan to just tell her. So he can just be prepared for that.

3) End it with him.
  • Because you asked him to stop telling you A. stuff and he does not respect your limit.
  • Because this is already intolerable for you.

I cannot tell how bad it is for you from your post. You are the one in the actual situation.

Galagirl
 
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Why would you want to invite this kind of drama into your life?
 
At the end of the day, it isn't actually a drama for me...I just don't want to be put in the position of having to lie.

We had a big talk on the weekend. He knows exactly how I feel and that if I am asked I won't lie. He knows he has to say something but he is such a big softy, he doesn't want to hurt anyones feelings. I told him it isn't going to, she came into this with eyes wide open.

He is still finding his way with his poly identity as he has kept it hidden from most people for a while. I liken it to a kid in a candy store at the moment, he just needs to settle down.

We are a pretty strong V and it is not that he discusses his relationships with the couple of others with us in detail, but we do know more about them then they do of us/each other. It is just how it is.
 
Then do not lie...

Her emotion and actions are hers to deal with.
 
We had a big talk on the weekend. He knows exactly how I feel and that if I am asked I won't lie.

Then solved enough for you then. You don't have to lie. He knows where you stand.

He knows he has to say something but he is such a big softy, he doesn't want to hurt anyones feelings.

He's not being a meanie by breaking up with someone respectfully if it doesn't work out.

That's what dating IS. Sometimes the people you date click and other times they don't, so you part ways. Not everyone one dates will be compatible.

Presumably the adults he dates KNOW that already.

Galagirl
 
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