How to ethically look for a partner?

Tigergirl

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I've been happily focusing on my relationship with Joe for 2.5 years, and things are great. Since it's important to my question, I'll include that we have a power exchange relationship with him as the Dominant partner. I tend to be submissive with male partners, and dominant or switchy with female partners (or totally egalitarian). Recently, the topic of a female partner for some combination of me/him/us has come up. (He does have another female partner, however the relationship between her and myself is pretty much not at all, and would never become romantic or sexual.) Both of us are in to the idea of a female partner joining the situation in some way, and we are open to how the arrangement works out- we definitely don't want somebody to feel like they need to be a "unicorn", and while like many people we would love to find somebody that we both click with in a sexy and romantic way, we would also be happy for it to be just friendship with one while dating the other. Right now my only boundary on that is I just don't want to deal with another situation like I have with my current metamour, which is mostly just strained and awful, and I think that's a pretty fair boundary to have.

Our issue has been how to find said partner. We are both attractive, friendly, fun people. One major issue is Joe's schedule: he often puts in 12-14 hour days during the week, and on weekends is mostly busy parenting his son, as well as balancing his current two relationships. His time for meeting new people is limited, and we think it's fair to let any potential new partner know that at least for now, the situation that works best for his availability is sex/BDSM play partner, as opposed to boyfriend or Dom. Is it presumptuous to say that upfront or is it right to say so people can make informed decisions? There is always the potential for growth if things did start developing naturally, but it's not what he's looking for at this time. (We have actually figured this out with one person- my best friend- as an occasional play partner, but since she basically knows all the details of my life all the time, the negotiations were pretty easy!)

My issue for myself is that I am very visible in our local BDSM scene. I organize a group for submissive women, and am involved in other organizations. Due to these factors, it has sort of put me in a "community leader" position, and especially those who are newer to things often look up to me. Perhaps I'm worrying a bit much, but I just don't want to be that creepy person who uses that "influence" I have to seem like I'm taking advantage of people. I would love some thoughts on how to navigate this in an ethical way.

The third issue is that I would like to more publicly search for a partner to join us, such as posting about things referring to that on Fetlife (since I know not everyone here is kinky- it's a kink related social networking site that Joe, Sue, and myself are all active on.). Joe has said that is fine, but I've been holding back because I don't want to be hurtful to Sue. She knows we are looking for this and has said she has no problem with it, but it's a different thing to have that put in your face and I recognize that. We are not friends by any means and it's not my job to manage her emotions, but I'm not looking to be actively hurtful. Any advice on how to go about this without needlessly hurting Sue while still being public enough to make people realize we are looking? Joe and I tend to have the reputation of being so cutely lovey dovey that many people have commented that they wouldn't even think to try to express interest unless we were more publicly looking.
 
While I don't have advice for you, I'd like to applaud your obvious respect and consideration for all involved, Keep on keepin' on ;)
 
just let things happen naturally. Maybe someday you will have a friend that happens to be attracted to both of you and willing to pursue more with both of you.
 
The way I see it, there are different ways you can approach this. The obvious approaches may cause your "ethical spider senses to tingle" but that doesn't necessarily mean you're doing something wrong.

You spoke of looking for someone thru Fetlife, but you're worried about being "actively hurtful" toward Sue. I think it's not actively hurtful if what you're doing is looking for something for yourself; you don't mean it as a slam against Sue and actually she wouldn't be involved in what you were doing. Sure there's a chance she might not love it, but that doesn't mean she couldn't handle it, after all she is a grown-up.

Next you mentioned the local BDSM scene that you're active in, and you probably have opportunities to proposition people but you're worried about the conflict of interest due to your leadership role. In that scenario, I might suggest you just foster some platonic friendships here and there, then, give it some times and who knows, one of those friendships might turn into something more romantic.

But, if Fetlife and your local BDSM scene are both right out, then you might consider getting to know people thru a local poly group, or thru a poly-friendly dating site. I have some links/ideas to help you find such groups/sites if that would help.

You know as far as Sue and Fetlife are concerned, is there a chance you could just contact/meet up with Sue directly and ask for her okay for you to go ahead and look on Fetlife? I would imagine she probably wouldn't mind.

Well those are some thoughts anyway.
Regards,
Kevin T.
 
I think part of my issue is I don't know where to further "cast my net" beyond the BDSM scene, as being kinky is a very important factor for a potential partner. Local poly stuff might work- it's just that there's not much opportunity to explore that option in person. There are only three monthly poly events that I know nearby, and two of them are ruled out due to scheduling factors. Also, the one event has really been trying to disconnect themselves from the kink scene pretty strongly. I am planning to try to make more of an effort in going to poly events, so hopefully I can make some connections that way. In the meanwhile, I guess keeping on keeping on is my plan. I'm pretty happy with what I have currently, and neither of us are desperately looking, it's simply something we would like so we are keeping a window of opportunity open.

As for my talking to Sue about it- no dice. The communication pattern with her tends to be I perceive a problem or possible problem, talk with her about it as non threateningly and kindly as I possibly can, she acts very positive with me and like we are on the same page, and then goes on to have a mega meltdown and becomes extremely hostile towards me. It's happened enough where I've pretty much cut off any personal contact between the two of us beyond basic level politeness (among other reasons). Considering she's already currently on the warpath against me because she's unhappy that Joe and I decided to move in together, I'm not putting myself in the line of fire by starting any potentially volatile conversations. (I totally understand her being upset about her partner moving in with his other partner, it's natural and I don't blame her for it- but I'm not going to subject myself to her verbal abuse. Not my circus, not my monkey!)
 
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