I need some help/advice

Ilovemycats

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I will try to make this as short as possible, so bare with me.

Backstory:

In 2006, I didn’t have a job. A friend of mine knew of a place that was hiring, even though it wasn’t the best job or amazing pay, but it was a job. He got me an interview and I nailed it, scoring the job. Over the next few years at said job, I became very good friends with the woman (let’s call her “sally”) who hired me and, eventually, we became kinda flirtatious, even though she had a boyfriend, We never acted on anything but we knew we both had feelings for each other.

I eventually left that job because I moved away to another state for a girl. Dumb move. I moved back a year later. A few days after I moved back, I had met up with “sally” and we talked about what happened. She helped me through things, as friends do.

Fast forwarding a bit, we had hung out sporadically, just normally. Having drinks and talking. She was still with her boyfriend and I was still single until I met someone else not much longer afterwards, let’s call her “Sandra”.

I met “Sandra” at a club and we had talked all night that night. We eventually started dating. Shortly into the relationship, like 2-3 months, she had told me that, technically, she was still married even though they never really talked unless it was about their daughter because they were like a ticking time bomb whenever they would be in the same room. At first it was weird to know I was dating a woman who was married, at least on paper so to speak, but I got over it and we dated for almost 8 years.

During this time, “sally” had tried multiple times to reach out to me without my knowledge, but was unsuccessful.

Fast forward to 2 years ago. I randomly was watching a video online of a tv show clip and low and behold, “sally” was being interviewed on said tv show and I was like OMG!!! “Sally”!! I found out through this that she as running a “show” so I decided to go to said show to see her. It was amazing! I finally got to see her after all these years! She then introduced me to her husband (a different guy then back in 2006 and they had been married at this point for about 5-6 years)

Over those 2 years we kept in constant contact because I didn’t want to lose my friend again.

Fast forward to this past summer. She works fairly close to me, so I started visiting her after she got off work to hang out, talk, have tea etc etc.

After all the catching up conversations we had, our talks turned to her life and how miserable she had become. She hated that she turned into someone she didn’t really recognize anymore. I also had noticed it but never said anything because I was just happy to have my friend back in my life.

So after lots of long talks in person and via text, she decided that in order to become happy with herself, she was getting a divorce. Sure, it did have a little to do with us reconnecting, but ultimately, it was for her; for her sanity; for her happiness.

She had many long talks with her husband about it all. After he had snooped through her phone and saw all of our text messages, he just assumed it was because of me, that she wanted to be with me, which was kinda true, but again, she wasn’t happy with him anyway.

Fast forward to last night:

I got a very long text message about how she’s been having long talks with the husband and came to the decision that a poly-relationship was the way to go. He could see whoever he wanted and she could be with me and continue our relationship, however, that they are no longer getting a divorce because she’s still in love with him, yet is very much in love with me as well.

With all of that now said: I dunno what to do. Even though “Sandra” was technically married, it was never really a thing cause she hated him and they never talked unless it was about their daughter, which was very rare, so it was never something I thought about or had to worry about.

This situation, however, is very different because they live together and love each other, yet she really loves me as well.

Part of me says “who cares! Nothing changes. She loves me. We get to see each other and do couple things and be physical with each other (kissing, snuggling, sex etc etc). Why does it matter?”

But the other half says “well crap. There goes our future plans of moving in together next year and moving forward with our relationship and probably eventually getting married and having the perfect life.”

I’m at a loss, folks. I don’t have anyone in my life to talk about this particular situation, so I turn to you for help/advice.

What should I do? Just cut ties? Allow this poly-relationship to move forward knowing it may not (or might, I’m not a fortune teller) actually end up with just us?

Help!
 
Could be option C.

"Sally, I don't want to do poly. If we were to date, I would want it to just be you and me, with the hope of a future together, living together, maybe even marriage. Since you are going to remain married to your husband? You cannot offer me that. So Let's just keep this as friends. I rather not ruin the friendship by doing wonky poly."

Keep it WAY simpler on yourself.

Stay out of her drama.

She's at this place:

After all the catching up conversations we had, our talks turned to her life and how miserable she had become. She hated that she turned into someone she didn’t really recognize anymore.

So after lots of long talks in person and via text, she decided that in order to become happy with herself, she was getting a divorce. Sure, it did have a little to do with us reconnecting, but ultimately, it was for her; for her sanity; for her happiness.

And the husband suggests poly -- maybe as a means to avoid a break up. So now she jumps on that and wants to date you? While forgetting how unhappy she is in the marriage?

That's just sounding like kicking the can down the road. And you don't need to sit in the middle of their still unfolding problems.

Sometimes potentials do not become dating partners for many reasons. In this case? Because she really isn't free to date you "clean." Poly isn't meant to be use as bandaid for a drooping marriage that is circling the drain.

That might be great for her -- but that kinda sucks for you. You do not exist to be her bandaid to help her endure her ugh marriage better. You deserve a better dating offer than that.

Galagirl
 
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Thank you for your advice.

One of the things I didn’t mention that she was upset about was his kids and grandchild living there as well (from his previous marriage) which was also causing mayhem, but they moved out almost 2 weeks ago, which has helped her side of things, but apparently they’ve been talking and I guess trying to resolve stuff and they’re at a place where things are starting to be where they should be for them, I guess. Not sure if I’m wording that right, but yeah.

I’ll be seeing her this weekend to sit down and talk, so I’ll get more info then.

Again, I appreciate the reply.
 
Hello Ilovemycats,

I kind of agree with GalaGirl's "Option C," in that my suggestion right now would be for you to remain friends with Sally without escalating your relationship with her. Now, I would say that maybe somewhere in the future, you'll decide to escalate after all, if circumstances have changed favorably. That would be fine too. Staying just friends for now gives you time to think things through, as well as time to wait and see if circumstances will change. Right at this moment things are not conducive to you becoming more involved with Sally. You seem to be uncomfortable sharing her, and that's what's being offered. I'm curious, what if you could live in the same house with her and her husband? Would that change your feelings about sharing her? That's my situation, I live in the same house with a woman and her husband, and I am good with that. You have to decide what would work best for you.

Just some thoughts,
Kevin T.
 
One of the things I didn’t mention that she was upset about was his kids and grandchild living there as well (from his previous marriage) which was also causing mayhem, but they moved out almost 2 weeks ago, which has helped her side of things, but apparently they’ve been talking and I guess trying to resolve stuff and they’re at a place where things are starting to be where they should be for them, I guess. Not sure if I’m wording that right, but yeah.

Well, glad that's a bit better since they moved out. I still think it is not a good time to date her though.

If they are going to try to do marriage repair? Stay out of it so she can focus on marriage repair. If they are still circling the drain? Stay out of it so she can finish splitting up.

If she wants to poly date later down once the waters have settled? Then it might be different... IF you are actually into poly. Are you? You don't actually say.

But right now if things are all churned up? Adding more people to the mix at this time doesn't sound like the BEST time to start doing poly.

And if you would want it to end up with just you and Sally? But she comes with a hubby? Jumping into poly is not exactly starting out well for the outcome you desire.

I think you could be up front about it and not do wonky poly. You seem to value the friendship -- and right now that DOES work ok with her coming with a hubby. So leave it there.

Galagirl
 
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Thanks for the reply!

No, I would not like to share the same house as both of them.

I’m a one-woman man. Always have been. I’m pretty “old fashioned” as they might say. I don’t do one night stands or any of that nonsense.

I’d rather be selfish and have her all to myself to be honest.

Like I said, were meeting up this weekend to sit down and talk about everything and maybe I’ll find out more info I’m in the dark about.

But I might be leaning towards just remaining friends and seeing where the future leads us.

It just sucks cause she’s awesome. Everything I’ve ever wanted in a girlfriend. Plus we have that history of knowing each other for years.

Thanks again.
 
If you're solidly/exclusively monogamous (and it sounds like you are), that actually simplifies your problem. You do not escalate your relationship with Sally unless/until she divorces her husband. Right now, she is offering polyamory. Nice thought, nice of her to offer, but not a good match for you. And that's okay.

I know it's a shame that she couldn't be yours when she is such an awesome person, and such a good match for you in every other way. Her having a husband, and not one that she is separated with, makes her not a good match all by itself.
 
I’d rather be selfish and have her all to myself to be honest.

That is not being selfish. If you prefer monogamous relationships? That is knowing your own self and your own preference. So STICK WITH IT!

I'm with Kevin. Keep it simpler on you.

If you want to date Sally in a monogamous shape thing? And right now all she can offer you is wonky poly? With a hubby she may or may not be mending things with or may or may not be breaking up with? Do not sign up for that offer. It just does not meet your preferences.

But I might be leaning towards just remaining friends and seeing where the future leads us.
I think being friends would be best for now.

It just sucks cause she’s awesome. Everything I’ve ever wanted in a girlfriend. Plus we have that history of knowing each other for years.

Yes. It stinks to come close, but still not a match. Does not meet your preferences at this time. No point in forcing it and wrecking the friendship.

Galagirl
 
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