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The G-spot definitely exists! And so does female ejaculation, though the emphasis some people put on "squirting" annoys the hell out of me... That was one of the issues I had with the workbook I used, she devoted an entire section of one chapter to "squirting is amazing and all women can squirt and all women should squirt and squirting is amazing"... And a lot of guys and women I've met put huge emphasis on it, as in the women bragging about being able to and the men acting like women who squirt are better at fucking than women who don't.

Ugh on the squirting trend. Yeah, I don't squirt, either, at least not in the sense of gush a half gallon of clear fluid. There is a release of wetness, but 1) it's about a teaspoon and 2) it's like regular vaginal fluid, the natural lube my body makes, not watery clear stuff.

With all the messages women get about how we're doing it wrong, it's a miracle any of us manage to enjoy sex. Find your g spot! No wait vaginal orgasms don't exist! Everyone can squirt! No wait it's just pee! I mean really. Lady parts are complicated and we don't all work the same way. Whether it's physical differences or learned likes/dislikes.

On the bodily fluids topic...

I don't have any feelings either way about my own. I mean, it helps with sex, so good I guess? But I am completely squicked out by the idea of other women's, in this second grader ewwww gross way.

On the other hand, I think I'm what the Fet crowd would call a cum slut. I love it. The smell, taste, feel, everything. The other day K passed along a tip from her sister that pineapple gets the taste of cum out of your mouth after a blow job. I was like - why???? Savor that shit. Anyway. My best sex ever is when a guy comes inside me and then fingers me or fucks me again... I love feeling it inside me and spilling out of me. That is the stuff multiple orgasms are made of.

Yeah, me and condoms, not destined to be BFFs.
 
But even so, it could simply be that the poking of the area was too much pressure and that's why it hurts some women. It's my understanding that these areas don't need to be slammed into. Mike's demonstration was just lightly going back and forth or little circles with a fingertip. He said he also liked to use his middle finger for a & p spot stuff, while keeping his index finger bent and using it to do the high-pressure g-spot stimulation.

When Andy gets home I'm going to ask him... As the only person with knowledge of my insides to whom I'm still speaking ;) ... But he has explained it as there being places at the very top that i go crazy for. Like my cervix is not at the top center exactly, but what is there, is very fun.

Also half of the gynecologists I've seen have told me I have a tilted uterus, and the other half say I don't. (Yeah, I'm lost, too. And don't care, because I have no plans to ever use my uterus.) But that may have something to do with location of sensitive places.

EDIT: LOL at the topic shift, sorry, "I'm going to hijack your blog to talk about the amazing orgasms I've been having." What? I'll...stop now...

Hijack away! If I'm not having sex at least I can live vicariously lol ;)
 
Ugh on the squirting trend. Yeah, I don't squirt, either, at least not in the sense of gush a half gallon of clear fluid. There is a release of wetness, but 1) it's about a teaspoon and 2) it's like regular vaginal fluid, the natural lube my body makes, not watery clear stuff.

With all the messages women get about how we're doing it wrong, it's a miracle any of us manage to enjoy sex. Find your g spot! No wait vaginal orgasms don't exist! Everyone can squirt! No wait it's just pee! I mean really. Lady parts are complicated and we don't all work the same way. Whether it's physical differences or learned likes/dislikes.

On the bodily fluids topic...

I don't have any feelings either way about my own. I mean, it helps with sex, so good I guess? But I am completely squicked out by the idea of other women's, in this second grader ewwww gross way.

On the other hand, I think I'm what the Fet crowd would call a cum slut. I love it. The smell, taste, feel, everything. The other day K passed along a tip from her sister that pineapple gets the taste of cum out of your mouth after a blow job. I was like - why???? Savor that shit. Anyway. My best sex ever is when a guy comes inside me and then fingers me or fucks me again... I love feeling it inside me and spilling out of me. That is the stuff multiple orgasms are made of.

Yeah, me and condoms, not destined to be BFFs.

Fuck it, I like talking about sex. :D

(See THIS conversation is why I want more girlfriends in my life. Just hanging out drinking tea and talking about orgasms.)

Like too many words having to do with women's parts and functions, I just don't like the word "squirt" itself. Phonetically, the sound of it, I don't like it.

I don't have a lot of volume either, but it's thinner, watery. I know it isn't urine. Know for FACT, because it's been recommended to me, to go urinate as soon as possible after we do that kind of stimulation, that it can prevent UTIs or something, and I've noticed it does tend to prevent some possible discomfort maybe... Anyhow recently, I was in a position to detect the taste and scent of what had happened there, and minutes later I was doing the recommended peeing and I was dehydrated, and trust me if what had happened in the bed had been what was in my bladder at that time, there would have been NO doubt what it was. It was more like water, not much scent or anything to it. Definitely different.

My informal anatomy lesson says it's something called the "Skene's gland." Another phonetically lovely name for a part of my body, thanks to whatever MAN "discovered" it? I imagine? Thanks guys...for that...sounds like something that a small woodland creature uses to spray stink at attackers...

/facepalm

I had, though, only had that kind of orgasm twice in my life before Zen, and he's made it happen a few times. It's not an often thing for me, even though he's really good. And no man would make me have one I think, if I didn't allow it to happen, I have to really concentrate on relaxing and the sensations and stuff.

I don't think it's superior or inferior, but I think that Zen, like some guys, just wants to feel like he can figure out every little thing he can find and what he can do with it to get what results, he loves to play with my body. He also wants to know all the spots that tickle. He likes to get me with them, too. And you know it's weird, I used to hate being tickled with such a virulent passion that I'd turn into a shrieking, flailing lunatic...but not with him. I laugh and buck and twitch and all, but when I'm very aroused it seems that tickling isn't as bad. Also, sometimes he laughs at my reactions, and the sound of HIM laughing is pretty much one of the most wonderful things in my world.

So the point of all that ramble, is that I have found that plenty of things I would have said, "Oh, it's like this for me" are now completely different with Zen, even though I had plenty of opportunities to discover this stuff before him and before now....I didn't. I'm a little amazed at how much there still is for me to learn about what my body is capable of, with the right lover.

Oh, and while I'm bi so I like girl fluids, I am sometimes right there with ya on the men's, only I've found some taste good and some not so much. I've been told there might be a dietary component, and that wouldn't surprise me. The best I can recall ate lots and lots of home grown organic veggies. The worst was probably a junk food and steak kind of guy. I feel like the majority are good, a few are bad, and a few are amazing, in that regard.
 
Fuck it, I like talking about sex. :D

(See THIS conversation is why I want more girlfriends in my life. Just hanging out drinking tea and talking about orgasms.)

This is what hanging out with my girlfriends is like... Except we don't drink tea, we drink beer ;) But I feel like somewhere along the way I stopped making new close enough to talk like this girlfriends. In high school and college, I had gaggles of girls to talk with about sex. Now I just talk to the same 4 friends I've been trading stories with for 15 years.

So the point of all that ramble, is that I have found that plenty of things I would have said, "Oh, it's like this for me" are now completely different with Zen, even though I had plenty of opportunities to discover this stuff before him and before now....I didn't. I'm a little amazed at how much there still is for me to learn about what my body is capable of, with the right lover.

I love exploring, learning, with a partner who has that "i want to know everything about your body" attitude.

But the guys who are like, oh, trust me honey, with me you'll love (whatever)... That I cannot take. I've been figuring out my body and sexuality for 20 something years, I may not know everything (hope I don't!) but I know a lot.

Plus, that attitude... It's like making me (squirt, enjoy anal, get into girl-on-girl stuff) is some kind of man victory, some proof of prowess. It's nothing to do with me wanting something or enjoying myself, it's all about what they can accomplish. Dude, no. Just no.

Oh, and while I'm bi so I like girl fluids, I am sometimes right there with ya on the men's, only I've found some taste good and some not so much. I've been told there might be a dietary component, and that wouldn't surprise me. The best I can recall ate lots and lots of home grown organic veggies. The worst was probably a junk food and steak kind of guy. I feel like the majority are good, a few are bad, and a few are amazing, in that regard.

I swear that guys who have had vasectomies taste different. Less strong. I'm sure science says I'm wrong. But. Maybe more research is needed :p
 
As far as squirting, or ejaculating or gushing if those words are nicer: I didn't always. I didn't start until age 42. I think some things just came together to make it possible. My ex h finally accepted my bisexuality, and would talk about fantasies when we had sex. I think maybe there was a physical component too, since I'd started perimenopause. Less estrogen helped somehow? Also, I had been deluged with kids for 12 years, and they were finally sleeping through the night and more independent, and my ex and I kind of had a second honeymoon phase. We had more freedom to go out on dates, explore our hobbies, and we started traveling to jam band fests and camping, hiking, or staying in hotels. I wasn't exhausted and sleep deprived all the time. My first squirting session came completely by surprise to us in a hotel room. No kids, no pets, just us, peaceful and free to make all the noises we wanted. After days of sun and music and dancing our feet off. My fluids jetted down to my feet that first time, from being fingered, and we were both, what the heck? lol

I wasn't able to gush on my own from masturbation right away, but I learned to. That was when I first finally got a vibrator, haha.

Since then I've never stopped gushing. I don't every time, especially when masturbating, or in a shorter sex session. But I'd say 75% of the time, I do. I needed to buy several mattress protector pads. It's messy, but definitely feels wonderful, intense. Not sure all my partners LOVE my messes, but they are glad I am happy and get a kick out of it.

There is this one porn actress I really like, Cytherea. She is an incredible gusher, more than me. She hits the camera regularly, her cum shoots out like 3 or more feet. She cums really hard, she's not acting, she loves sex so much. I only like porn where the women aren't acting. I've seen videos of her just talking about the squirt phenomenon. She got her start as a porn actress over 15 years ago and was voted best newcomer... it was when squirting was finally being recognised as an actual thing. It became so popular in porn, she said many actresses she knew of were faking it, and peeing for the cameras. Then she said, it kind of went out of fashion. She got blowback about it, some people mocked her, etc.

It's so nice that Steve loves oral sex so much. I've noticed how, he gets down there and just sort of touches my pussy and looks at it, and smiles at the sight, before he starts "making out with my pussy" as he calls it. Tells me I have a cute little pussy, pretty pussy. It seems to me not everyone loves to give oral... maybe only 50% of people I've been with long term love it? So it's very nice when someone does. (Although one subby guy I was with loved the idea of oral, the facesitting smothering idea, but then he didn't know what to do once he was down there! So annoying.)

Personally I love to give head to either men or women, and I don't feel fully fucked unless I get to give it!

When I was first dating Steve 8 years ago, he wasn't very sexually experienced. He did his kink, but wasn't fully into sex. He was overwhelmed by my sexuality back then. Lucky for him, and me, he's grown as a person since then. Nice, though, he often tells me just being with me is the best part, the sex and kink we do is just a fun side benefit. Awww!
 
Speak of the devil... It happened again last night, my Zen is getting pretty damned good at this.

Yeah yanno, I get fussy about words. There's plenty of 'em I don't like to use and since I've got a big vocabulary, I try to skirt around them and use alternatives. I'm picky about a lot of things I guess. But I manage. And it's not the meaning, it's the sound of the word, like "complimentary" is another one I don't like...why? I don't know. But I always thought men got better words for their parts than we did. At least if we're talking slang. Oh well.

I'll have to think of a word I want to use for this, maybe make one up lol!

Anyhow. Yeah, Zen bought a mattress protector and some cheap paisley sheets for when I'm particularly messy, we've used them a lot. Good thing too, since sometimes we are VERY messy...like last night...
 
I found out when I got my first IUD 4 years ago that I have a tilted uterus (I have had two kids, vaginally, so I'm not sure why I didn't find out then, apparently it didn't affect anything with having them). I loved sex with my ex boyfriend, who was longer than anyone I have had sex with. I wonder if it had to do with hitting the a and p spot.

I think I ejaculate internally. When I go to the bathroom after sex, there's a lot more liquid than I expect, especially when I've gone to the bathroom before sex.
 
So I'm going to interrupt the girl talk with a bit of real life...

I'm supposed to meet Draper tonight for dinner, we were texting this morning to firm up plans. And he mentions "if we decide to go somewhere after" with a bunch of wink emojis.

:cool:

I am just nowhere near ready for getting naked with him. It takes me a while. And the couple of times in the past that I have tried to have sex before I felt ready, it was an awful experience. :(

I know I shouldn't feel bad or guilty for not wanting to go home with Draper on the second date, but... I do, a little. I feel like such a prude. I am also not sure if I should say something now, or just go on the date and say no thanks if he invites me over. Leaning toward texting something, so I can stress less today, but everything I start to type comes out like pearl clutching, "I'm not that kind of girl!!!" :rolleyes: Which is not it at all. Or maybe it is, but not in the sense that there's something *wrong* with having sex right away, simply that I don't usually want to, and I don't expect to change my mind tonight.

Dating is fucking hard some days.
 
Kind of presumptuous of him, isn't it? I don't know how to deflect that is in a non-snarky way, but I wouldn't like the half-assumption, either. You don't need to apologize for how you feel.
 
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I've only had two guys actually come in my mouth... one was horrid, because he'd been drinking beer all night at that's what his cum tasted like. The other was "meh." I've given head to other guys, but none of them came. Women I thought were friends, when I told them that, said things like "You're just doing it wrong, *I* could make him come, I ALWAYS make guys come."

Fucking competitive backstabbing... *grumbles*

One of them even insisted that about Hubby, who is very vocal about the fact that he has NEVER come from oral, no matter who's doing it or what they're doing. The woman actually hit on him so she could prove me wrong, but I'd already told him about the conversation so he turned her down.

Oral isn't anywhere near the top of my list of things I like to do anyway. Partly, that's because both giving and receiving are PTSD triggers for me, though not nearly as bad as they used to be. Partly, it's the "ewww, squick!" thing I have about bodily fluids; why would I want THAT in my mouth, or want the guy to have *my* "that" in his mouth? To give oral, I have to be in a particularly dominant, aggressive mood, which rarely happens; to receive... well, receiving usually results in my mind wandering off somewhere else until the guy decides he doesn't want to do it anymore. Receiving oral, I don't usually come unless he's fingering me at the same time, and that's unusual given that I come if someone breathes on me right otherwise.

(I had a tilted uterus too.. I don't have one at all anymore.)

Claire, ugh about Draper. Nothing like making assumptions.
 
I think many times guys do the insinuation with a jokey little wink because they use it as a way to guage where women are. It's not like a super serious ask at the end of the night that puts a lot of pressure on (at least in their minds) so if a woman down plays it and says something like "oh I usually need more than 2 dates to feel ready for that" or just declines in any way, the guy can be like "oh, no big deal, I was only flirting!" So basically, they have an out if you're not interested.... but if you respond positively, then they will feel more confident about making that move in person later. I find that downplaying it with something silly but clearly a no, or even just being serious and saying "hey, sorry, but I'm not there yet, just FYI" generally doesn't get me a negative response and the guy is understanding. So don't feel bad at all about pre-emptively saying that you need more time and actual in person dates before you're ready for private naked times!
 
KC, I have to admit, my first thought reading your post was, "beer flavored cum! best of both worlds!" :p

On the Draper thing.. You know, I don't think it would have bugged me nearly as much of he hadn't made such a big deal about not wanting casual sex. It was really hard not to make a comment like, oh, we're close and have a deep connection after spending two hours together? :rolleyes: But in the end I just let it slide and ignored his comment. If he's pushy later, well, I'll pay for my food and go. Whatever.
 
I remember being on a second date with this guy I called Berry in this forum. It was warm out, so we met for a picnic in Central Park and had stimulating, interesting conversation, and a very pleasant make-out session. After about two and a half hours together, he said, "Can we go back to your place?" which took me by surprise. I just looked at him and said, "Well, I wasn't planning on it." So he says, "Is that a no?" and I told him, "I'm not at the point where I'm ready for that, so no." And that was that. It wasn't a difficult conversation to have. I didn't have to explain myself. I just stated what I had to say without emotion or apology, and we parted company at the end of the date. It wound up not developing into a relationship later on, but there's no reason to freak out about saying what you need to say in a matter-of-fact way. You are entitled not to wanna if you don't wanna, Claire. I just hope you won't apologize for expressing your truth! You don't owe him anything.
 
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Claire, aside from despising the taste of alcohol, I'm severely allergic to it... Not a good thing when booking up with a guy.
 
Yeah, I agree with what others have said about saying no to Draper. He's wanting to gently test the waters with the idea, and this is another "Claire, you're putting too much pressure on the situation and making it harder for yourself than it needs to be. Try to relax, it's gonna be ok."

Just tell him that hey, you might well get to that place, but you're not there today. Personally, I would ask him, "Is that ok?" mostly because I'm pretty sure he'll say it is ok, and hearing it tends to help.

KC43: I hate alcohol too. I'm reading "Come As You Are" right now, it just arrived today and I'm halfway through it. And the smell and taste of alcohol is a big turn off for me. Drunk behaviors even more so.

Also anyone who says that they can make anyone enjoy any particular activity is full of shit and kind of a jerk in my opinion. I don't care how good they think they are. Male or female. I hate that. No, no you can not. Different humans respond to different things. That's like anybody expecting literally everyone of the opposite gender to want to fuck them, who in the hell do you think you are? lol

But I didn't like oral before, and with Zen I do. Part of that is that he opens up every part of my sex-brain and everything about him turns me on. Part of that is that his technique is very geared to me, and he's really good at working my particular equipment. But your brain is your biggest sex organ, and if your brain ain't into it, your body won't be either.
 
Yeah the whole assumption that you don't enjoy an activity only because you haven't found the RIGHT person has always irked me. For me, it's foot rubs of all things. Back when I was dating, I told more than one asshat that I HATE having my feet touched, let alone rubbed. "Oh, you will change your mind after I'VE done it." Um, nope.

My current husband is squicked out by feet so it's all good.

A former FWB once told me that I was the only woman who could make him cum by oral. My 20-year-old self was disgustingly smug about this. My 47-year-old self realizes that it was probably just a line, anyway. Even if it WAS true, it certainly wasn'the important enough for him to leave his girlfriend for me. It took me far too long to quit looking at other women as my competition. My younger self was not a kind person.
 
Fuck my life, y'all.

Seriously.

I learned something about Draper ... Not from him.... From a Google search... Shit. I feel like the world's biggest idiot. I was so desperate to have someone tell me I'm pretty and make me feel special. At least I didn't go home with him.

But even though we never did more than kiss, I feel gross after what I learned. Gross and dumb, dumb, dumb for falling for all his pretty words and thinking there could be something.

I can't decide if I want to go into detail here. It feels like it would be invading privacy, information that could lead to his real name... But I'm not sure why I give a shit about that. May write something and delete it before the edit window ends.

Stayed home from work. Going to watch CW teen soaps and wallow in self pity.
 
Hm...well I gotta say, now you've got me curious. I'll TRY to understand if you don't post any further information due to respecting someone's real life privacy... Couldn't even give a general idea of the general nature of this revelation? Did it have to do with how he is with women or criminality or ...?

You know sometimes, as much as women talk about guys that they are involved with, especially in the processes of dating around when we're not super invested yet...I am surprised with what I've heard about the Worm King and how he does with women, that there are not reviews of his dating habits profiled somewhere on an "OK Cupid beware these players" site. Like I wouldn't warn women away from him exactly, just say that if you're willing to take certain risks, he is fun in bed...just don't get attached because he's a weirdo and a flake.

And I DID share his identity in my blog, or somewhere...back a ways...it's pretty buried, I'm sure. But he is a minor local celebrity, musician, person, with a HUGE internet footprint so I doubt if it matters that much. No one here is going to go hunt down his contact info and be like "Hey, I heard you have a worm farm in your basement, what's up with that??" lol
 
It must be gross, but it's not on YOU, hon. We can only go on what they tell us, and then our instincts... glad you found out the dirt on him before you got more involved! You're not dumb or an idiot!

My heart goes out to you.
 
No, it's no reflection on you, Claire. I think most of us who are honest and decent people will tend to take others at their word.

However, I used to work with a woman who said she always paid for a background check on anyone she was interested in dating. So, somewhere between the two, hopefully we can find balance.
 
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