starlight1
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Thanks Pink Pig. It wasn't all bad (possibly minimising going on here?) and I think friendship is still able to apply in a tertiary sense. I asked Acton for coffee next week outside to talk over what happened from both his point of view and mine. I'm not sure if there's any point as I'll be moving soon, but it feels important to me to be addressing it maturely. 
Also looking back on my blog, it seems like, most of the issues I have gotten into extend from these things:
1) Obligation. (in this case because of my own financial situation but could be any reason in the future.) He wouldn't have felt entitled to his own choice of movie if I had been able to pay for myself. There would have been no "gift" or obligation of "payment of gift". And even if he felt entitled I could have rebuffed the entitlement gently saying, if its not really gift I'll pay for myself. I also could have said no I don't want a gift with strings. (see number 3 in list.)
2) Resources to keep myself safe.
If I had had enough money on me, getting a bus home wouldn't have mattered. I could have taken the train to local village then a taxi home. To me this shows people as "opportunists" rather than rapists and I have mostly set this scenario up myself in some ways by being "dependant" on men. So.
3) My ability to say No and mean No.(or any boundary). If I had simply said, no I won't sleep in your bed, and stood by that come hail or high water, he might have stopped pushing.
4) Feeling I have the power to say No when its not respected and that my voice/actions are valid while they are being invalidated. I am generally a tolerant and considerate person. So I tend to stay in the vicinity arguing a point that doesn't need to be argued when I disagree with someone on this. When really it would be easier and more efficient to simply continue to say no, to say lets drop the subject/agree to disagree, or leave the situation. I tend towards valuing people's opinions over my own. I can't tell you how profound Galagirl's advice on
4) Minimising dismissing and/or disassociating with my own feelings/thoughts at the time they happen.
This one ties into the third one, in that I have to be able to acknowledge what I feel/think at the time its happening in order to act on those issues. Poly is great practice for this as there's often times a great need for compromise, clarity, boundary assertion, and learning where and how to say no. It requires a present of mind and ability to be flexible while still safe, and kind while still strong. Also therapy has helped with this last one as it's largely a PTSD thing for me.
So in hindsight I now know Some things I can do to make my life easier with these scenarios going foreword.
Also looking back on my blog, it seems like, most of the issues I have gotten into extend from these things:
1) Obligation. (in this case because of my own financial situation but could be any reason in the future.) He wouldn't have felt entitled to his own choice of movie if I had been able to pay for myself. There would have been no "gift" or obligation of "payment of gift". And even if he felt entitled I could have rebuffed the entitlement gently saying, if its not really gift I'll pay for myself. I also could have said no I don't want a gift with strings. (see number 3 in list.)
2) Resources to keep myself safe.
If I had had enough money on me, getting a bus home wouldn't have mattered. I could have taken the train to local village then a taxi home. To me this shows people as "opportunists" rather than rapists and I have mostly set this scenario up myself in some ways by being "dependant" on men. So.
3) My ability to say No and mean No.(or any boundary). If I had simply said, no I won't sleep in your bed, and stood by that come hail or high water, he might have stopped pushing.
4) Feeling I have the power to say No when its not respected and that my voice/actions are valid while they are being invalidated. I am generally a tolerant and considerate person. So I tend to stay in the vicinity arguing a point that doesn't need to be argued when I disagree with someone on this. When really it would be easier and more efficient to simply continue to say no, to say lets drop the subject/agree to disagree, or leave the situation. I tend towards valuing people's opinions over my own. I can't tell you how profound Galagirl's advice on
"Love your self 51% and everyone else 49%"
has been.4) Minimising dismissing and/or disassociating with my own feelings/thoughts at the time they happen.
This one ties into the third one, in that I have to be able to acknowledge what I feel/think at the time its happening in order to act on those issues. Poly is great practice for this as there's often times a great need for compromise, clarity, boundary assertion, and learning where and how to say no. It requires a present of mind and ability to be flexible while still safe, and kind while still strong. Also therapy has helped with this last one as it's largely a PTSD thing for me.
So in hindsight I now know Some things I can do to make my life easier with these scenarios going foreword.
- Don't go into any situation where I'd be dependant on the man/person if I don't want to have sex, as the heteronormative/mono script is "I did xyz, and I hope to get xyz" (for men relating to women in dating)
Practice saying no and meaning no. Say it with kids, say it with family, say it with mail man, and people at my door, say it with the person who approaches you on the street for charity. Say it kindly, say I firmly, but stand by it and the repercussions when you do.
- Have a way to ACT on the right to say no. In some situations due to my health I wasn't even physically able to walk away. That's not my fault. But it's also not where I am at now. NOW I can put money aside and take it with me to call a taxi. I can make sure my phone is working/has credit. I can learn jujitsu. I no longer have to be in a place of dependant, and I can learn to step out of that role now that my mental and physical health is better. I am not blaming myself, just preparing myself that if I get into a situation I can get out of it myself. I can act on my own rights and motives to end a conversation or advance. I can get up and walk away. Or defend myself.