Maybe I’m not poly or bad at it

bluerosesd

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Ok so me and hubby have been swingers and handled it well because no feeling were involved. I have always wanted a poly relationship. My hubby wasn’t into it but would let me have it if we ever found some one. I always thought I would be the one to find a female or couple that wanted a relationship and I wouldn’t have to deal with jealousy as they would love me from the start. As it turns out my hubby was the one to find some one and she is in love with him. He has told her that it would have to be a triad kind of deal. I am dealing with some jealousy and abandonment issues. We had thought our relationship was going to be where we all love each other and I would have a relationship with the female as well. She don’t want a sexual relationship with me and I am ok with that but want to feel bonded with her. I am unsure about the whole thing. I am over ran with so many emotions. She is in a bad relationship with her hubby and is wanting to get a divorce ASAP. She has been staying here with no sexual contact as I have asked it be that way until we feel more comfortable and have a closer relationship. Am I poly or am I just bad at it? This is the first relationship we have tried. How do I deal with all the emotions I am feeling? I think this has the possibility of being something beautiful and loving and I don’t want to mess it up with my insecurity.
 
I am sorry you struggle. :(

I could be wrong... but basically it sounds like you moved in a divorcing stranger into your house for a triad that she doesn't sound like she really wants to be doing but is making like she does just so she can leave HER house and her ugh husband/marriage.

If that is the case Then it sounds like the SITUATION is "rickety and not esp stable" rather than you being "insecure."

What you might be is "underprepared." Sounds like you were so focussed on the situation you wanted most (you with another person or couple) that you didn't think it would be another way (husband being the first to have an outside partner) and did not prepare for that.

as it turns out my hubby was the one to find some one and she is in love with him. He has told her that it would have to be a triad kind of deal.

Why? It can't be him dating her separately in a V?

Triads cannot be forced. Even if you and her are both up for triad models, that alone doesn't automatically mean you and her are compatible with each other to be in a triad together ok just because you both date your hubby.

It sounds like maybe you are discovering that. :confused:

She don’t want a sexual relationship with me and I am ok with that but want to feel bonded with her.

Ok. You want that level of bonding. But does she want that level of bonding too?

Or does she prefer a very separate V and "basic polite" if you guys bump into each other? NOT being like closely bonded friends?

How much did you three talk this all out to see what the compatibilities are before jumping in? Perhaps it was not enough.

She is in a bad relationship with her hubby and is wanting to get a divorce ASAP.

Is she basically using you guys as a means to get out of the marriage? (Hopefully she isn't, but something to think about if she's still basically a stranger.)

She is not willing/able to sort out this part of her life BEFORE dating new people? Your husband was not willing to wait until that's sorted before dating her? You were not willing to wait?

She has been staying here with no sexual contact as I have asked it be that way until we feel more comfortable and have a closer relationship.

Why the rush to move her in? :confused: That's a whole other layer of compatibility issues.

Why does she have to stay there during her divorce? She doesn't have other family and friends to stay with?

Am I poly or am I just bad at it? This is the first relationship we have tried. How do I deal with all the emotions I am feeling? I think this has the possibility of being something beautiful and loving and I don’t want to mess it up with my insecurity.

I think you guys could slow DOWN and not live all together right now. One way to deal with emotions better is not to pile so much on your plate at once.

Some things you cannot control. Like her and her husband having problems.

Some things you CAN slow down/control. Like who lives in your house, how much talking you do before jumping into poly, what people you pick to poly with, and what sort of open model you will agree to practice together.

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Could do some more reading first.

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I could be wrong but it almost sounds like "At last! Someone to poly with!" and you and spouse all got so excited at the idea that you really didn't check it out, talk it out well, or think it all through before leaping in. And now maybe kinda realize it was too much too fast? :confused:

If that is the case? Ask her to move out and sort out her divorce stuff first. Then try again at a calmer, slower pace so this does have more of a chance to blossom into something good.

Going at it at super speed and all rickety-- it may be that ALL of you are feeling overwhelmed like that.

Galagirl
 
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It sounds like both you and hubby are bad at it. That's okay because you are both new at it. You are bound to make mistakes. New Girl may or may not be a mistake, but the odds aren't good.

She is either a serial monogamist or just someone looking for a way out of a bad relationship. Hubby is probably too deep into the NRE to consider that he might be being used. You are in a tough situation because you aren't ready for this.

I don't think you should chalk everything up to insecurity on your part. As GalaGirl said, it is a rickety situation.
 
To quote the Geico commercial..

That's not how this works. That is not how any of this works.
 
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I always thought I would be the one to find a female or couple that wanted a relationship and I wouldn’t have to deal with jealousy as they would love me from the start.
I think it's pretty rare for anyone to love anyone "from the start." It does happen; my husband and I are a case in point. But it isn't common. Attracted from the start, yes. Lusting from the start, yes. But love often takes time to build.

As it turns out my hubby was the one to find some one and she is in love with him. He has told her that it would have to be a triad kind of deal.
So he met someone and essentially told her she doesn't get to decide how HER OWN relationship will look? She has to either fit in with what you and your husband have decided or she gets nothing? I'm sorry, but that strikes me as quite unfair. To me, the people who are in the relationship get to decide how the relationship works, and if they can't agree, they might not be compatible. But to not be given a choice at all... For me, and for many people, I think, that's rather problematic.

I am dealing with some jealousy and abandonment issues. We had thought our relationship was going to be where we all love each other and I would have a relationship with the female as well. She don’t want a sexual relationship with me and I am ok with that but want to feel bonded with her.
Again, it looks like you aren't taking into account that the other woman should have a say in how HER relationship is structured. Yes, it is also your husband's relationship, and he should get a say. But to be blunt, it isn't *your* relationship. It's your husband's and hers. It's fine to want a connection with her, but if she doesn't want that, you can't force it. I'm glad you're at least accepting that she doesn't want a sexual relationship with you.

She is in a bad relationship with her hubby and is wanting to get a divorce ASAP.
I agree with other commenters that it sounds like she might just be trying to find a way out, and is using you and your husband to get that.

She has been staying here with no sexual contact as I have asked it be that way until we feel more comfortable and have a closer relationship.
So you're dictating the sexual aspect of your husband's relationship with his other partner because of *your* comfort level? Again, does this woman not get a say in her own relationship? Does your husband not have the right to decide what he does with his body and his partner?

Am I poly or am I just bad at it? This is the first relationship we have tried. How do I deal with all the emotions I am feeling? I think this has the possibility of being something beautiful and loving and I don’t want to mess it up with my insecurity.
I don't think you're bad at it. I think you're new to it, and you're coming from a swinging background, where as I understand it, it is common for a couple to dictate how their interactions with other people will go. It's common for a "third" to have to ask permission from one spouse to be with the other, and for a couple to expect a single woman to be interested in fucking them both. But that isn't necessarily how polyamory works.

It sounds like you and your husband are putting your marriage above any other relationship or connection. That's a valid way to do things, but it is, in my opinion, unfair to expect someone else to abide by rules and decisions they weren't allowed any say in making. You cannot make rules about other people's emotions. You can, of course, make rules like the one you seem to have that the other woman and your husband can't have sex until you're comfortable, but then you are controlling something that has nothing to do with you. Their bodies. Their sex life. Their decision. It's fine to state a preference ("I'm having trouble adjusting, would you mind waiting to have sex until I'm more comfortable?") but a preference is just that. A preference. A request to which the other people have the right to say no. It sounds like in your case, your husband and the other woman don't have the option of saying no to your rule.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with feeling uncomfortable or jealous. Feelings happen, and they're all valid. But taking control of someone else's life and relationship is a potentially harmful way of dealing with your emotions. How you feel is yours to deal with; it isn't up to other people to do what you want because of how you feel. If they choose to, that's their choice, but if they're only making that choice because they feel like they don't have any other option, that, in my opinion, is not a positive thing.
 
Hi, bluerosed.

The thing all of us hate to admit to ourselves about relationships - poly, monogamous, or otherwise - is that they tend to have a life all of their own. They cannot be confined easily, they are changeable, and they do not always follow the roadmap we prefer.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a triad/quad-style relationship, if you are all on the same page. However, that would mean only seeking someone who also wants a triad from the start. You've got to get clear on your agreements. If dating individually is not preferred, neither of you should be pursuing it.

That being said, it's common for relationships to start as triads and for a deeper relationship to develop between just two of the people involved. Look at this as a learning experience, and talk together about what to do from here.

Trying to force closeness, of any kind, will have the opposite effect. Believe me. It will also feel gross. You don't want that. And you deserve someone who wants to be totally close to you!

I would suggest that you guys hit the brakes on this thing. She's going through a divorce. Now would be a good time for her to stop and deal with that. There's nothing wrong with cooling things off and saying "not right now".

I am concerned about the "no sex" limit, too. I completely understand why you have asked for it. My concern is about how realistic it is. How does your husband feel about it?

You guys need to talk properly about your boundaries and agreements. Listen to what your husband really wants, as well as stating what you want. Come up with agreements that work for both of you, and make sure they are clear.

As for whether you're poly? I don't look at this as a finite thing. Poly is an experience. You will only know if you are comfortable with poly by practising poly. You won't ruin anything with insecurity. You are uncomfortable right now, and that is simply how you feel. There's nothing wrong with it. You can decide to continue, and explore it, and see what happens. Or you can decide you want to stop. You can't predict the outcome of either. You can only go with what you feel right now.

So, talk to your husband. Talk to the other woman. Be honest and compassionate with each other, and you'll find your way from there.
 
In this instance, that kinda comes across as "Here's some literature on how to enjoy being a victim." :eek:

You have a good point there, Ravenscroft. All this advice about handling jealousy when someone is suffering the most in mishandled situations can come across as irrelevant and sanctimonious. Hearing about compersion at my worst filled me with the urge to throw stuff at those smug (in my imagination) people talking about the experience.

Such advice DOES have its usefulness and but it's only after regaining some power. It shouldn't be the first in order of steps taken; other steps take priority. Setting a direction, personal and relationship goals, clear understanding of one's personal boundaries, of others' autonomy. Being aware of one's basic needs, and sometimes going through a required separation of those needs from already established strategies for meeting them and coming up with new ones, if/when needed. It's all extremely hard and probably harder to do than just "dealing with jealousy". Most people just don't do that work for themselves to begin with – I include myself in that – because circumstances never demanded it.

Blueroses, I hope you guys figure things out. This is admittedly scary, especially when things seem to be moving very fast and somewhat recklessly. What I wrote above is what helped me in a somewhat similar situation. Make sure to take good care of yourself while navigating this.
 
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