Mental illness and having to choose between partners

sonder721

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My wife and I have been together for 4 years, and have known her for more than 10. We're very close...closer than I've ever been able to be with anyone. We love each other very much, have kids together, and generally a fairly normal life. We opened up our relationship a while back to the possibility of other partners, and a couple of months ago I became seriously involved with my now girlfriend. My girlfriend and I became close and fell in love quickly, and I feel it's safe to say she's exactly what I have been looking for for years - every last detail. We both feel equally strongly about each other, and my wife likes her a lot and was very interested in seeing us my girlfriend and I established as a couple. The eventual goal with this situation was for my girlfriend to become a co-partner, and my wife would likely eventually find someone else as well. Things were going perfectly for a short while.

My wife was diagnosed with bipolar a couple of years ago, and has been medicated ever since. We've been through a couple episodes of having her admitted to the hospital for serious suicidal ideation, among other things. When she's depressed, she can't leave her bedroom for weeks. When she's manic, she's likely to take off on a hitchhiking trip across country, leaving everything behind, and has almost made it a couple of times. Regardless of her swings, some things are a constant: thoughts of suicide, paranoia, inability to form tangible bonds with our kids (which I know they feel), etc. The meds she's on now work very well for her, and she hasn't had a manic episode in quite a while. In fact, she's been doing very well: she's held a job for 2 years, got back into school, and started a successful blog. The meds dull the ongoing symptoms, but by no means take them away. She still can't bond with the kids, do house work, or interact socially very well. I have often come home to her in tears because she hasn't been able to handle the kids for a few hours and nothing has been done around the house. When this happens, she tells me she never wanted to be a parent and that she just wants to travel. This usually calms down pretty quickly, however. When we decided to open our relationship, she hadn't had any serious episodes in over a year, and the other symptoms were just something I figured we'd deal with as they come, probably for life, and not a major reason not to pursue the kind of relationship we wanted. She's otherwise a very strong, intelligent, caring person who usually sees things more clearly than most.

When my girlfriend started coming around more often, she and my wife became close quickly, which I thought was great. My wife was really rooting for the relationship to happen. But after several weeks I started noticing things getting weird. My wife started becoming particularly intense in conversation with my girlfriend, to the point of making things very awkward and uncomfortable. Each of us sat her down more than once and asked her to please stop and allow us to handle things in our relationship, though these requests were largely ignored after apologizing. It then escalated to the point that my wife started experiencing slightly heavier symptoms of her mental illness, and started involving my girlfriend in those symptoms. She would call and text her at work and unwittingly tell my girlfriend things that made her feel like a homewrecker and as though she was intruding. This finally came to a point where my girlfriend was ready to walk out after having several very stressful work days due to my wife's behavior. I didn't want to have to choose, but I knew that if I let my girlfriend walk out, I wouldn't be able to look at my wife without resentment for a very long time, if it didn't ultimately end our relationship as well. I finally put my foot down and told my wife she needed to back all the way out of my other relationship until her behavior could calm down, which was about when she began having issues and starting fights when I would try to spend any evenings/overnights with my girlfriend because she could not be away from me, and not being able to handle any spontaneous plans made with my girlfriend, though only at times we were not otherwise occupied. When confronted, my wife made it very clear how much she depends on my constant presence, and how unprepared she really was for our me to be in a new relationship, when she had previously believed otherwise.

To cut it short, yesterday I dropped my wife off at work, and she called me a few hours later to tell me she had walked 10 miles up the highway and was feeling like she wanted to end her life. I called the police who picked her up and placed her on a 72-hour hold, which is where she is now. My girlfriend is at the point where she cannot deal with my wife at all, and doesn't want to see her again...she recently came out of a very rough situation with her stepfather who was also bipolar, and does not have the mental faculty to deal with it. Trying to weigh the pros and cons of everything that has happened with my girlfriend, how my wife feels about the kids, dealing with breakdowns like yesterday, and coming to realize I don't feel comfortable being primarily in a caretaker role the rest of my life, I don't know what to do. I am in a position of having to choose one or the other, and I hate both choices. My heart is hurting.
 
I am so sorry that you are going through this. It's a very difficult position you're in, and I'm afraid it's going to be hard to find anyone who has good answers for you.

On the one hand, some will say that marriage is "in sickness and in health" and that sort of thing. On the other, there are those who will say you must protect yourself, and your children, and you may have to choose to abdicate your responsibility as caretaker for your wife. Certainly, no one suggested that when my ex's mental illness became disruptive and arguably dangerous that I stay with him. On the contrary, people told me to run. I don't know how he will survive on his own, there are going to be serious problems for him trying to do that, but I can't be his Mommy, I have to concern myself with myself and with my children.

And I think, ultimately, sadly, so must you.

Best wishes...strength and serenity to you. There are probably no easy answers to this. But I don't expect that your other relationship, or any attempts at another one besides this, will work until things are resolved somehow with the wife. And you cannot expect your girlfriend to deal with it. She did not sign on for this.
 
I am so sorry you deal in this. I can see that hurt a lot right now. I hope you feel a bit better for airing some of that out. :(

Let me lift up some things from your post to you:

In this 3 people "V" style polyship, who wants to get off the ship?

  • GF wants off: My girlfriend is at the point where she cannot deal with my wife at all, and doesn't want to see her again...she recently came out of a very rough situation with her stepfather who was also bipolar, and does not have the mental faculty to deal with it.

  • Wife wants off: my wife made it very clear ... how unprepared she really was for our me to be in a new relationship, when she had previously believed otherwise. To cut it short, yesterday I dropped my wife off at work, and she called me a few hours later to tell me she had walked 10 miles up the highway and was feeling like she wanted to end her life.

  • You want off: I don't know what to do. I am in a position of having to choose one or the other, and I hate both choices. My heart is hurting


So that's it. The Poly V is over. The ship needs to land and people need to get off it.

Now, in the (marriage with kids) shape relationship, who wants to keep flying that ship?

  • Wife wants off: She still can't bond with the kids, do house work, or interact socially very well. I have often come home to her in tears because she hasn't been able to handle the kids for a few hours and nothing has been done around the house. When this happens, she tells me she never wanted to be a parent and that she just wants to travel.

  • You want off: I don't feel comfortable being primarily in a caretaker role the rest of my life

So that's it. Marriage ship needs to land. People need to get off. It seems best being over.

I know it is painful right now, but I suggest you consider practicing a NEW model with these people, and stop viewing it like you have terminate relationships. You do not. You can still be in relationship with them, and still care about them and love them.

But the relationship shapes have to change. This current shape is strangling all of you.

What kind of ship do I fly now with these people?

I think you could try


1) You tell GF your intentions. You ask GF if she is willing to be patient while you are sorting all this stuff out. If she's willing to date during transition, date. If she's not, pause, and date once it's all done.

You ask GF to exercise better personal boundaries. If your wife calls her, she could not pick up. Let it go to voice mail and delete without hearing it. If your GF is burnt out on mental health people like her stepfather, it is GF's responsibility to not expose herself to others. Stop answering the phone. That is something she can do to TAKE AWAY from her frustration.

Stop ADDING to your frustrations by complaining to you about it. You cannot control your wife's behaviors. (You could exercise better boundaries with your GF. If she is bringing you stuff that is her job, give her back her stuff and tell her to do her job!)

2) You help wife move to her own apartment as soon as possible. If this needs time, see if she can live with her mom or whoever after hospital. At least then she doesn't have to housekeep or watch kids. Lighten the load.

Once at her new place? She can housekeep as little or as much as she wants, and it affects only her. She gets some time with the kids, but not "main parenting" any more so she can feel better.

It is wife' responsibility to secure a counselor to help her in transition. (Though it might be in your best interest to secure it for her to get this moving forward ASAP)

With counselor she forms a suicide safety plan and lists someone else other than you as her "go to" person if she has a problem. Her mother, her best friend or whoever. YOU appear on her plan only as "Person to ask for help: Take the kids to him if I have them"

Not living together takes the main pressures off all. Some sadness, but also some hope that things will get better over time.

3) Then you deal with legalities and finish the separating. You file for divorce. Some sadness, but some relief there. You take main custody of the kids. You are then free of being wife's caregiver. If you pay some support, fine. But you no longer are the main caregiver for a mental health patient. If she's doing caregiver shadowing and you don't want to be the caregiver?

Stop being the caregiver. It is your responsibility to not be doing things you hate. The reality is... In time she will (latch on to the new caregiver person she lists and shadow them)or she will (learn to do her self care more appropriately). Either way? YOU are free from being her caregiver.

Become willing to try a new model where you are (divorced and date GF) and (co-parent "lite" with the mom)

You still are in relationship with these people, but in a relationship model shape that might fit you all better so all can all be healthier.

It's ok to mourn the loss of the old relationship shapes, and get through more feelings to process still... but move it forward to the new shape so all can feel better in time. If you and the kids need a grief counselor/divorce counselor in transition -- secure one. Make this process easy as possible on all.

I know it's a mixed metaphor but... definitely don't keep trying to fly a kite that just will not fly any more. That's a waste of energy and more frustration. Do not ADD more frustrations to your plate. TAKE AWAY frustrations from your plate.

YOU are responsible for your well being. If your GF and your wife are putting things that are their responsibilities on your plate and you feel overloaded? You can give them back their stuff and tell them you expect them to deal with their stuff on their plates. You have your own plate of stuff to deal with. There's no room there for extra right now.

Exercise better personal boundaries.

Galagirl
 
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Wow, I was wrong...I applaud you, GalaGirl, for putting that so eloquently and well. That was a very good answer. Probably not an easy one to put into practice in reality (I still doubt if "easy" exists in this scenario) but most definitely a GOOD answer.

Your Diplomacy-Fu is mighty!
 
Thank you for the compliment.

But no, there is no "easy" here. There is only "pick your hard." If leaving things the same is "hard and losing all hope" and changing it is "hard but some hope" -- I just think the "better hard" is the one that provides some hope.

Def stop doing things that clearly are not working. And become willing to change the relationship shapes. Why bang head on wall? Change itself can be challenging and takes time, but at least that way everyone is holding their own bag and not dumping it all on the hinge. That's not fair.

Everyone pulls their own weight as much as possible, and deals with clearing their own stuff off their own plates. Yeah, some have more on plates than others, but having a food fight with it all is no good.

Clean it up. Disband what does not work as amicably as possible. Then build up the new thing that hopefully flies better for all.

Galagirl
 
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Hi sonder721,

Re (from OP):
"I don't feel comfortable being primarily in a caretaker role the rest of my life ..."

Given the above, it doesn't make sense to stay married to your wife. Unless, maybe, unless you and your girlfriend can develop a closer relationship, but I know your wife isn't cooperating with that.

Re:
"I finally put my foot down and told my wife she needed to back all the way out of my other relationship until her behavior could calm down, which was about when she began having issues and starting fights when I would try to spend any evenings/overnights with my girlfriend because she could not be away from me, and not being able to handle any spontaneous plans made with my girlfriend, though only at times we were not otherwise occupied."

What if you discontinued the spontaneous plans with your girlfriend? What if everything was done according to a fixed/regular schedule? Would that possibly help your wife calm down a little?

These are the things that come to my mind when I try to think if your marriage can be saved. But maybe it's not savable?

Regards,
Kevin T.
 
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