My gf and I have been in a monogamous relationship for 5 years. We both suffered through long, miserable marriages, and we're like soulmates in many ways. We both have intense sex drives, enjoy pornography and are sexually open-minded.
The problem is that I'm obsessed with the fact that she was once in a relationship with a married couple, and has done some swinging, and I haven't. I'm totally turned on by the idea of a group experience, whereas she got into it as a sexual opportunity that she fell in by accident.
I'm aware that polyamory is not the same as swinging, but there seems to be a multi-partner fetish component to the poly lifestyle. In any case, I'm not averse to an ongoing relationship.
My gf says she's open to a sexual encounter with another couple, but she's not enthusiastic about finding people on-line. We were on one of those sex sites a while back, but we didn't meet anyone we both liked. She wants it to happen "naturally," for example if we were out with another couple, having a few drinks and things just went in that direction. That isn't going to happen, because we don't have much of a social life.
As I'm not very good at meeting new people spontaneously, I was thinking of looking for some sort of group here in the Phoenix area, but I have no idea where to start. My goal is not to immediately jump into an orgy, but to meet other sexually open people in a relaxed way. (Her previous playmates are not an option, for reasons I won't go into here.) BTW I'm bi-curious, and although that's not my primary motivator I don't have the usual straight-guy hangups. Any suggestions?
The problem is that I'm obsessed with the fact that she was once in a relationship with a married couple, and has done some swinging, and I haven't. I'm totally turned on by the idea of a group experience, whereas she got into it as a sexual opportunity that she fell in by accident.
I'm aware that polyamory is not the same as swinging, but there seems to be a multi-partner fetish component to the poly lifestyle. In any case, I'm not averse to an ongoing relationship.
My gf says she's open to a sexual encounter with another couple, but she's not enthusiastic about finding people on-line. We were on one of those sex sites a while back, but we didn't meet anyone we both liked. She wants it to happen "naturally," for example if we were out with another couple, having a few drinks and things just went in that direction. That isn't going to happen, because we don't have much of a social life.
As I'm not very good at meeting new people spontaneously, I was thinking of looking for some sort of group here in the Phoenix area, but I have no idea where to start. My goal is not to immediately jump into an orgy, but to meet other sexually open people in a relaxed way. (Her previous playmates are not an option, for reasons I won't go into here.) BTW I'm bi-curious, and although that's not my primary motivator I don't have the usual straight-guy hangups. Any suggestions?