My partners might be divorcing and I don't know how to handle it [closed triad].

___3___

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I’m going to write my main thoughts/concerns out in bullet points because there’s a lot of info and I want to be as succinct as possible. But first, a brief history:

I’m in a closed triad. We’ve been together for almost a year. We currently all live together and I own the house. My partners are married to each other. Before we got together romantically, we had all been friends for over a decade. Last year, my bad marriage ended. A few months after that, they approached me to become a third. I was elated. Yes, I had fears at the beginning that I was entering this relationship too soon. But after much open discussion, I felt comfortable and decided to dive headfirst into this new love. (Please no comments about how I should have waited. Trust me, I’ve berated myself enough and what’s done is done. I just need some advice about what’s going on currently.)

Most of the time, we all feel fairly secure (or so I thought). When we are feeling insecure, we talk about it. One of us (we’ll call her A) has more frequent bouts of insecurity. I recently discovered that these insecurities stem from the fact that she felt overlooked by our other partner (we’ll call her B) in their marriage for 10 years. Now that we all have this new relationship energy, it’s difficult for A to see B interact with me the way she does. A says it’s hard to accept that intimacy and affection are so easy for B now, because B was pretty closed off during the 10 years they were together before me. This issue recently came to an explosive head and divorce between A and B is on the table. I have so many swirling thoughts that I don’t even know where to begin, but I’ll try:

I was unaware of their marriage problems when I entered the relationship. In fact, I thought they were relationship goals! In regards to their marriage, B tells me that everything was just fine and wasn't aware of any issues. Conversely, A tells me that these issues have been ongoing. But she said yes to the triad because she’s had feelings for me for years. (I’ve also had feelings for her for a long time.) After their most recent blowup, A apologized and told me she felt like they had “baited and switched” me about what their relationship was like before me.
  • I love them both dearly. I don’t want this to end. But I can’t be a reason (even an indirect one) why their marriage ends. That’s just not something I can live with.
  • I’ve told them before that I can either be with both of them or neither of them…
  • Despite this, B has asked me on a few occasions if I would stay with her even if A and B break up. (This makes me feel all kinds of ways and I don’t know how to respond.)
  • In a different world, I could see myself being in a mono relationship with one of them, but not the other. (I'm not even going to say which one it is because it’s irrelevant.) EVEN SO, I can’t tell either of them this for obvious reasons. As much as I hate it, ethically I just don’t want to choose between them. So that’s really a moot point.
  • A has mentioned that we should all just be in a V with me as the head. I don’t like this idea either because 1) that’s a lot of pressure on me and 2) that still involves breaking up a marriage (which I don’t want to be a part of). I also just don't see that going well for anyone.
  • I try my best to be there for each of them, emotionally. And I try not to mediate when there are problems. I really try to draw a boundary there.
HELP! How do I navigate this? I’m so upset and I have no idea what to do. Thanks in advance for your listening ear...
 
Hi ___3___,

I am hearing you say that you don't want A and B to divorce each other. You want them to work things out with each other. At the same time, those are things that are not yours to control, only A and B can decide that. I also notice that this pending divorce has been brewing for a long time (as per your previous thread). It's a question of when, not if. You seem to be wanting to stay with them, in the hopes that they'll work things out, but what if they don't? Then they'll break up while you're still with them, and you'll feel like you played a role in the breakup. Compare that with, what if you break up with them right now? Then, later on, when they break up with each other, you won't have to feel like you were part of the reason.

At the least, I would advise you to move out of their house, as soon as possible. At least then you'll have no further part in their daily interactions (and fights). I would do that at first, and then see how you feel about breaking up with them. If it still feels like you are going to be a reason for their pending divorce, you might want to cut the ties completely. Heck you might even decide you don't want to continue your friendship with them, it just depends what level of involvement will make you feel like you had a part in their divorce. So move out, and tell them you want no part in their budding divorce, that you refuse to choose between them, that you won't stand by and watch their relationship go up in flames, and that you want them to work things out with each other. After that, the ball is in their court. Stay neutral, do not take sides.

I'm sorry you're going through this.
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
They were heading for the guillotine long before you came into the situation. Making their marriage breakdown about you is kind of weird IMO.
To be clear, they aren’t blaming me for their breakup. And I’m not trying to make it about me. Sorry if it came across that way.
I’m just wondering how to navigate this situation.
 
This is really tough situation to navigate. Neither it is then. Especially if you are not open to a V and they do not want to stay legally married.

A's V recommendation seems logical and the most fare. B's questions feel a bit more manipulative/choose me dump her.

A feels the most honest now in her expressions to you especially about the bait and switch and only agreeing because of her interest in you. But that means she knowingly lied. B seems to have been aware too based on the questions at hand but might be in denial.

You have said your piece and made your request clear. Now you need to walk that fine line and not be a dumping ground for their emotional issues. Ideally, and this may sound weird, both partners get the short term rule of NOT talking to you about the other until they work out their shit. Not ideal as you do want to support them but that makes you not the inbetween. Time with the other person stays just that, time with only the other person in that moment. If they can't do that, reschedule the date.

Another recommendation could be a mini-vacation to sort out your needs. In a situation like this, their is a lot of legal and history you don't have to worry about or know about. Assets breaking up, who gets the house, etc etc. You are not an asset and need to make sure A or B knows that. One way to keep your sanity is to inject your own autonomy and checking out for a week or so. Leave them to each other only and say you can all 3 talk when you come back.

None of these ideas are great but think at this point is you avoid the drama and trauma of a divorce you don't need to be apart of. You already had yours. And revisit any ideas of dating after they have completed either breaking up, staying together, or something in the middle.
 
I'm sorry you struggle.

I think if this was a closed triad?

(A+B+3) all together?

And now A and B might be getting a divorce? That's the end of the triad as it was then.

A - B - 3 is where you want it. Everyone back to single. I think that makes sense at least for a little while so people can heal. Because (A+B+3) as you knew it will be over.

(A + [3) + B] is what A suggested. You being the hinge between the two exes. But that's too weird for you. So just be honest and say so. "No, thanks. I prefer everyone back to single for a healing time."

A - [3+B] which is what B suggested. Wanting you to stay with them even if A goes away in the divorce. Also too weird for you. So be honest and say so. "No, thanks. I prefer everyone back to single for a healing time."

Whatever was going on in their marriage? You didn't cause it. You can't cure it. So don't take it like you are the cause of their break up. You aren't. But maybe their pending divorce is pinging some unhealed things from your own divorce? So it makes you anxious or something?

  • I’ve told them before that I can either be with both of them or neither of them…

Stick with your personal boundary. You seem very clear about it. Triad with all, or just none.

They can move out. And 30 days no contact minimum. Maybe more so the dust can settle some.

Then you can figure out if some NEW shape will emerge after everyone has a chance to do some healing and recovering after divorce.

This might be an opportunity to go slow into the next chapter. Let the new shape arrive more slowly. I could be wrong... but kinda sounds like each one is asking for different relationship models like trying to latch on to you in some way like a security blanket or something. Is that true?

I am sorry the triad is on the brink of a break up due to their divorce though. It's a major shift in dynamics. Understandable that you might feel upset and like all is up in the air topsy turvy.

If being in the house listening to them arguing or whatever is too much? You might consider taking a break to be with friends, family or on your own for a while so you can have some down time away from all this.

Because while their marriage and dyad is their deal, it can leak over on to you and affect you since this is also a cohabitating triad. Like a rock thrown in a pond... there is all these ripple effects.

If either of them wants to complain to you about the other one, you may have to say "No. I am not the right person for this conversation. I am inside the system. I am not an objective person. Please talk to someone else outside the system about this. I don't like being put in the middle."

One comforts in, kvetches out.


You can't end up like the emotional dumpster for both sides. Being put in the middle. Just because you are a partner to both? That doesn't mean you have to be like free therapist for both.

Hang in there.

Galagirl
 
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