Need Help and advice.

When I kiss her it feels like true love's kiss.

Yikes!

Yeah definitely avoid making any major decisions when you are in this state. You might as well be on a heroin bender.

Experienced polyamorists welcome NRE because it feeds excitement back into the original relationship. Experienced polyamorists are also able to overcompensate for NRE by deliberately putting more in their original relationship and making their original partner feel secure.

What you're talking about is one specific kind of polyamory, as practiced by one particular type of person. This is a couple-centric point of view that carries this "original partner" hierarchy mantle. Fortunately, there are variations out there that do not follow this model.
 
How old is her son? How does he feel about having his parents split up so his mother can move in with a woman he doesn't know? Please realize that he may well regard you as the cause of his family breaking up and you may not have the happy, idyllic family full of love you seem to be imagining.

Is her husband abusive? Has he ever hit her? Has he ever threatened her?

Her son is 2 almost 3 years old. When I talk to her on the phone he tells me hi and sometimes what he did during the day. I have met him once. We took him to the park and we both played with him. His speech is still hard for dad to understand and so if/when her son does talk about me it sounds like he is saying momma and not my name.

Yes, her husband has been physically, emotionally, sexually abusive to her and physically, emotionally abusive to his son. This was occurring before I came along. It has escalated since he found out her true feelings for me. I received a phone call about 2 months ago around 11 pm Friday night. She was called me crying and panicky. Her husband was hounding her with questions and she couldn't take it anymore. When he asked her if she loved me. She looked down and said yes. He slapped her in the face and through her out of the chair and onto the ground. While she was still down he grabbed her hair and pulled her up. She was able to escape to the bedroom and grab her phone and call me.
He originally thought she called the cops, but found out it was me she called. She made promise not to call the cops and the only reason I didn't is at the time I didn't her her complete address.

I have since opened her eyes to the abuse she has been going through even while her and her husband were dating. For now she is staying but if her husband hits either one of them one more time she is out. She has no family nearby, they live out of state. I'm the only support she has here and I'm still 3 hours away. She has the number to the local shelters but no true exit plan.

It is her decision on what she does. I just told her that no matter what I am here for her and I'm not going anywhere. To me she is worth everything the limited time together, etc. She is perfect.
 
physically, emotionally, sexually abusive to her and physically, emotionally abusive to his son.

This behaviour from her husband is unacceptable. The behaviour needs to stop and it requires either intense counselling with her husband in the driver's seat wanting to change, or legal advice on separation. Amitola, I'm sorry if my previous posts showed any sort of sympathy for this man. FallenAngelina, your instincts were right.

Amitola, this is an awful way to be introduced to polyamory. I hope things become better for you and your partners over the next few years.
 
Also need your advice ....

On April 27th and 28th I have a chance to see my girlfriend while her husband is out of town with school related business. I have already received approval to take those days off work. All my gf and I plan on doing is staying at her house and spending some quality time together. Mostly watch movies and play with her son. As far as sleeping arrangements I can do one of two things stay at my gf house and sleep on a pallet in the living room or stay at my sister in law house. Sleep in their marriage bed makes me a little uncomfortable.

I plan on telling my husband the truth about what I plan to do. Her husband would be completely in the dark since he would have a problem with the whole situation.

What is your opinion??
 
I think I understand why you're doing this 27th-28th thing, but do be aware it is cheating on her husband as you don't have his consent, you even know you couldn't get his consent. He's a detestable man so I can see why you would do it, but be frank with yourself about moving onto ethically questionable ground.

That aside I guess I vote that you sleep on a pallet in the living room as that will probably give you more time with your girlfriend. If you're going to do this thing, you might as well make the most of it. I hope you and she have a good time together.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
Her son is 2 almost 3 years old. When I talk to her on the phone he tells me hi and sometimes what he did during the day. I have met him once. We took him to the park and we both played with him. His speech is still hard for dad to understand and so if/when her son does talk about me it sounds like he is saying momma and not my name.
So you have a man who's hitting his wife, knocking her around, and grabbing her by the hair and you're going to continue seeing her behind his back, and seeing his son....and one day the son is going to have clear speech.

You're playing with fire. Her priority, if he's hitting her, is to get that part of her life straightened out and get herself and her son safe, not to be having an affair behind his back and introducing her son to the affair partner. This is a guaranteed way to escalate the situation.


He slapped her in the face and through her out of the chair and onto the ground. .... grabbed her hair and pulled her up. She was able to escape to the bedroom and grab her phone and call me.

He originally thought she called the cops, but found out it was me she called. She made promise not to call the cops and the only reason I didn't is at the time I didn't her her complete address.

Again: if he's hitting her, and harming her child, her job is to get out. Not to call her girlfriend. Pardon me if I seem harsh, but when someone is hitting you and throwing you around, you call the police.

Why has she promised not to call the cops?

I have since opened her eyes to the abuse she has been going through even while her and her husband were dating. For now she is staying but if her husband hits either one of them one more time she is out. ....
She wasn't aware that being slapped around, thrown to the ground, and yanked by her hair is abuse? Was he physically abusive before the marriage?

It is her decision on what she does. I just told her that no matter what I am here for her and I'm not going anywhere.
I personally would be encouraging someone to leave if they're being hit and thrown around.

To me she is worth everything the limited time together, etc. She is perfect.

To quote Marcus: YIKES! No, she's not perfect. She's a fallible human being just like everyone else, and this sort of comment, along with the two of you cheating on her husband, along with her calling you instead of the police, makes you both seem like children and neither of you thinking about the seriousness of your actions.

I'm with Kevin. You are cheating on her husband with her. You are both lying to and deceiving him. The fact that he's doing bad things does not justify her doing bad things.

I'm going to say again: she needs to be dealing with her marriage and the abusive situation right now, NOT dating, and NOT cheating on her husband. You are both playing with fire and she has a child who is also going to be caught in the explosion.
 
Hi Amitola.

We're all on your team. Physical and emotional abuse is a no go. This is no longer an issue about polyamory. Abuse takes priority. Much of the philosophy on polyamory is focused around adding new love to an existing loving relationship. This is clearly not the case here and laws or advice regarding dealing with abuse clearly take precedence. If you come from a country where abuse of this type is common, firstly, my heart goes out to you and your partner who have to suffer this injustice and I hope your girlfriend finds some way to manage this within the laws and customs of her country in a way that preserves her physical and emotional safety.

I believe you and your husband can do polyamory but as I said, this no longer feels like an issue about how to do polyamory. Furthermore, if you are considering breaking agreed upon boundaries, I can understand why you would be tempted to do so, but it's no longer polyamory. I'm saying I understand you, but you are asking for advice on the wrong forum, sorry.

In the end, we are not living your life, Amitola, so it will be yours to do as you like, but I'd like to ask you to consider the following and I do so with your best interests at heart. If your new girlfriend eventually separates from her husband and there is a custody or financial battle, will the courts in your country rule against her if she has had an affair? Or does the female-female nature of your relationship nullify that argument in the laws of where you live?

Good luck. You are in a really difficult situation. Be careful. Her husband may be laying a trap.

Shaya.
 
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Sigh. I'm really sorry all this is happening. :(


I plan on telling my husband the truth about what I plan to do. Her husband would be completely in the dark since he would have a problem with the whole situation.

My opinion? I would not go. Because the husband could be lying, and just waiting to "catch" her at something. Are YOU happy/confident about going to that house? Does your husband know about the abuse/beatings going on? Is he happy about you going to stay at that house?

Her husband already hits her and the child. It sounds like things have been escalating lately. I think you could skip going there. Then he cannot start whaling on the both of you. Or have your being there be the excuse for him to ESCALATE how he already treats her even more. Like "If I cannot have her, nobody can!" kind of beating/murder. It sounds crazy, but it isn't like it never has happened before in other domestic violence cases. You can read the statistics.

I think she could call the shelter for a counseling appointment and make a safety plan. She could decide to leave him. Later she could decide to spend some time getting healthy and back on her feet first. https://speakoutloud.net is another resource to help her understand what is happening to her. It also gives tips for how family and friends can support the person being hurt. It's in the "stages" articles toward the middle of the page.

The thing is... she might not be ready to leave at this moment. You cannot make her go faster than she can go. The leaving time can be very dangerous. I'd encourage her to talk to other people -- esp professionals at the shelter. They've seen it all and may better explain her options to her.

After she leaves him and after she can stand on her own, if she still loves you and wants to be with you? You can try dating at that point in time. When you are able to date a HEALTHY person.

At this point in time? She's not a healthy person and her situation is not a good one.

Point her toward getting help and getting out. I think that needs to be the main thing right now. Not finding ways to date behind his back.

Galagirl
 
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