New and anxious

So, Dreamy has shut you out for flirting with the friend? How would Dreamy even know this?

This all sounds very emotional rollercoaster. You JUST started doing this poly thing a few days/weeks ago. You might feel lonely, upset, a whole bunch of other things, with Dreamy doing the silent treatment. But you aren't SINGLE single.

To my knowledge, you are still living with your wife Dreamy, and she is still dating her BF Kyle, right?

Has she said she wants a divorce? What's going on?

The emotional volume on this seems disproportionate on both sides.

Galagirl
 
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So, Dreamy has shut you out for flirting with the friend. How would Dreamy even know this?
I don't think he said that was the reason Dreamy shut him out...?
This all sounds very emotional rollercoaster. You JUST started doing this poly thing a few days/weeks ago.

You might feel lonely, upset, a whole bunch of other things, with Dreamy doing the silent treatment. But you aren't SINGLE single. To my knowledge, you are still living with your wife Dreamy, and she is still dating her BF Kyle, right?

Has she said she wants a divorce? What's going on?

The emotional volume on this seems disproportionate on both sides.
I'm pretty confused too.
 
Yes, I am very confused.

I can't tell the order of how things unfolded. Hopefully OP will clarify later on.

GG
 
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Ok….
1
Emotionally vacant for a few years because my ex partner was manipulating my first born to hate me, and neglecting her health - lost the court battle and inevitably my daughter

2
Dream had moments she acted like she was cheating: including proclaiming I was the one cheating when I work my life away and help with the house and kids

3
I discovered suspicious texts but not solid evidence. Deleted message in trash “good morning bright eyes. I didn’t say take your shirt off, I meant show off that whole sexy body”
(Looking through album there was a topless photo taken midnight the night before)

4
Everything went well for a bit. But I still wanted to be sure, so I intentionally grew distant just to see if behaviours would repeat.

5
Kyle said he wanted to eat her ass

6
Found nudes sent to Kyle

7
I decided to give a monopoly arrangement a try

8
She was obscenely happy, glowing

9
Goes out with a friend she hasn’t spoken with in years to celebrate that his terminal diagnosis has been declared as non-terminal.

10
Absolute silence, and ignoring my existence the day after seeing that friend.

11
I ended up flirting with my friend (Call her Tulip, I guess?) over text message. Tulip threatened to wash me down with ice buckets should I flirt again

12
Dream saw the notification of tulip texting me
“You have her number now? Do I have anything to worry about?”

(I was to remain monogamous as she got to explore polyamory)

So Dream blew everything out of proportion- “the worst husband of the year award goes to YOU”. “You’re sleeping on the couch from now on, I WONT lay next to weak men.”

Yes
We’re still living together - I won’t damage the kids like that over something so illogical.
Yes
Dream is still dating kyle
Where are we relationship wise?
Well my friends I’m just as confused as you are!
 
Hold up. You were "supposed" to stay mono. She gets to fuck around. Did you agree to that or was she pushing for a one-vagina policy?

Are you weak for flirting, or something else?

Personally, I would drop her like rock. Unless you are in a cuck relationship (choices), then this just seems like she wants to cheat in front of you.

I will be frank. If number 1 is true, I would have dropped her ages ago.

Abusive. Move on and best of luck. If you stay poly, enjoy it. It is its own version of difficult. If you go mono, enjoy that too. Choices. Just doesn't sound like you should choose her.
 
Hold up. You were "supposed" to stay mono. She gets to fuck around. Did you agree to that or was she pushing for a one-vagina policy?

Are you weak for flirting, or something else?

Personally, I would drop her like rock. Unless you are in a cuck relationship (choices), then this just seems like she wants to cheat in front of you

I will be frank. If number 1 is true, I would have dropped her ages ago.

Abusive. Move on and best of luck. If you stay poly enjoy it. It is its own version of difficult. If you go mono, enjoy that too. Choices. Just doesn't sound like you should choose her.
She demanded no other women, OVP. I kept hinting at the potential of AT LEAST an emotional partner while she’s spending time with her boyfriend, so I could SPEAK to another female. Tulip and I used to make music together (legitimately, not sexually), so I figured having her back as a friend would be fair. But hoooolaaaaaay... Dream's profound jealousy is killer.

I’m weak over the fact she is controlling and manipulative of my emotions. And now I have the choice of staying with this woman or being homeless, living in my van and trying to figure out how to keep a relationship with, and financially support my 4 kids.
 
Oh, and Kyle is like 1000 miles away. She threw it all away because somebody in another country made her feel good when things were rough, and because I LIGHTLY FLIRTED with a female friend, opposed to Dream sending full-on nudes and neglecting parental duties to stay up to 4:00 am talking with Kyle.

Don’t worry, my autobiography is in the works…
 
You went distant and depressed fighting with the ex over the eldest bio kid. So, your new wife, Dreamy, responded to you being absent in THIS relationship by cheating with Kyle online.

We all came to a mutual agreement of an open marriage after I explained it thoroughly, and made the proposal to my wife.

Rather than end this, you suggested open marriage. That means open for all, right?

The choice for me to remain non-poly is my own.

That's fine. You use your option to date/flirt when YOU feel like using it.

During the open marriage, you flirted with Tulip, who didn't want any. Fair enough. Not everyone will be up for it.

Now Dreamy wants you to take the couch because she found out you flirted when a text notification popped up on your phone and she saw it. She's all mad and says you are a horrible husband. That's a bit much. Total overreaction. You have done way less than she has. If this is an open marriage, flirting IS allowed.

If you are so horrible, why does she want you? Just to hang around paying bills while she does whatever?

I’m weak over the fact she is controlling and manipulative of my emotions. And now I have the choice of staying with this woman or be homeless living in my van and trying to figure out how to keep a relationship with, and financially support my 4 kids.

I'd say take the couch for now, and tell her, "No, open marriage means open for you to date others, and open for me to date others. Even Kyle could date others. It doesn't mean open for just you. All I did was flirt, and Tulip isn't interested. I'm not up for you blowing up at me like that when I haven't done anything you aren't also doing. In fact, I've done less. You let me know when you are calm and want to talk."

Then, while waiting, seek professionals to help you, a counselor, at minimum, so you have support through this process from a poly-experienced counselor.


We’re still living together. I won’t damage the kids like that over something so illogical.

But you will keep the kids trapped in this household, where Dad is on the couch and Mom yells/blows up at Dad in overreactions? What's listening to verbal abuse gonna do for the kids? Different damages? They'll grow up thinking this is NORMAL, how people are to treat their spouses/be treated by spouses, so they'll put up with way worse as grownups.

I'm hoping this is temporary and Dreamy gets it together. She's only thinking about her side of poly dating and the "fun" parts of being a hinge. She hasn't done the work on you dating too, or Kyle dating someone else-- the less fun parts.

And you need to do some work on not bending to Dreamy's emotions just because she's a hothead.

If you two cannot work it out, perhaps it's time to talk with a lawyer so you can draw up fair separation agreements. Do a trial separation for a year. See if you can reconcile in couple's counseling, or if this is best ended. Make divorce agreements, if it comes to that.

I'm sorry this is happening like this, though. It sounds stressful.

Galagirl
 
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Yeah it’s beyond stressful.
I agreed to me remaining monogamous but I couldn’t handle the phone calls and all the time devoted to Kyle while I got shafted so did a little trial and error to see if I too could potentially be poly. But, only in the moment did it feel good.
Perhaps it’s because I knew she’d get overly upset.
Perhaps it’s because I am so deeply in love with her, I couldn’t fathom anyone else making me feel like she does on the good days.

I’m taking the couch. As far as arguing in front of the kids we don’t. We both grew up with that, and know exactly what it does.
Mom and I sometimes fall asleep on the couch when we’re up late because the little ones woke up, or decompress longer than expected at the end of the night and just don’t want to walk up the stairs.

But yelling, heated arguments anything like that. They see zero. Neither of us get violent whatsoever either.

But yeah… Dream gets to explore her feelings with Kyle but I get nothing but watching my wife love somebody else and be lost in infatuation to the extent she believes there’s no repair for our relationship over petty, mundane bs everyone goes through.
 
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