Please help, advice needed

Jentr87

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I was in a committed relationship with my girlfriend and boyfriend for a year. They are married, we all declared our love for one another, her first toward me and then him. Things were difficult at times of course, it was new to us all but there was love and we had a lotof fun and were happy, they have a child and I have two of my own, we would visit in weekends and all be one big weird happy thing.

A couple of months ago. She fell pregnant, I knew they were going to try for another but wasn't told when and it was a shock to learn it was kept from me and done so secretly. Since then, she became cold towards me, always saying she was busy (really wasn't) but eventually transpired she wanted time with him. That's fine, I'd always said we should all schedule our time together so no jealousy arose. Unfortunately it didn't seem to work that way and I admit I began to be jealous when they spent most of their time together unexpectedly, I believed I had a right to it too. Cue arguing, he took my side because she had been pushing me out for no good reason and snapping and generally acting horribly while all we did was try to make her feel better. I understand hormones but the general behaviour for weeks was appalling.

So long story short, she ended things with me, saying she no longer loved me, I was heartbroken and tried hard to get it back but she was intent on literally cutting me from her life, blocked messages and all. My boyfriend does not want to lose me and she agreed we could keep seeing each other because she didn't want him to be hurt. It's only been a week, they had friends round for a bbq yesterday and because my sister is a neighbor (small village) I was present at hers listening to them getting sadder by the minute. I sent him a text saying he could have come and at least said hello and that it hurt they could do that right in front if me, stupid I know, Im still getting used to it all.
He got very drunk and not very nice but visited me later that night for an hour because he had promised earlier in the day, we cried in each others arms about the loss we have experienced. She was texting him goodness knows what, clearly unhappy with it (she also gave a curfew on my one night with him on Wednesday texting a question mark when he was 5 minutes late)

I asked for 30 minutes with him today just to talk about the night before, he had passed out in my arms so I sent him home. Only to be told we should break up, that it's unfair on both of us (including the wife that did it all) and seems adamant to feel sorry for her but tells me a lot he was never really that happy with her, stays out of loyalty to family and a home. I would never stop that but a promise was made that we could stay together and though unfair I would do it because I love him dearly.

I realise I've not painted him out to be that great here but he really is everything I've ever wanted and we have cried together wishing it had been us. I don't know what to do, I'm terrified of the hold she has over him and just wish she could stop the insecurity and let us be, he's not allowed to text me on their days (which is most of the time) and I do understand somewhat but feel it has all been a little heartless, she was my best friend and we were so in love, she pulled me into her world so readily, to ask me for a future together and be part of their lives only to snatch it away so suddenly and I've taken it hard but try to be positive. I know I cannot lose him too and he doesn't want to but obviously feels the obligation to stand by her and does love her too.

I feel so hurt and betrayed, do I forgo my (and his) happiness for the sake of her jealousy? Can it work? I'm willing to take a step back if it means I still have him in my life, all I know is that this is pure torture right now, all I want is to be happy. Thank you if you've made it this far.
 
Hello Jentr87,

It sounds like your ex-girlfriend, to be blunt, stabbed you in the back, and continues to make things worse for you. I'm sorry she did and is doing that. I hate to suggest it, but I think you should avoid her at all costs from now on. Don't go over to her house. I assume she and your boyfriend live together, so your boyfriend needs to come over to your house to see you. I am hoping he is willing to do that? I know she has a tight grip on him, but he needs to show some courage and stick up for himself and for his relationship with you. It is not fair for him to cut you out of his life. Tell him this.

I'm very sorry you're going through this.
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
I am sorry that you find yourself in this situation. Unfortunately I don't have any advise that would be useful. I don't see that there is anything that you CAN do to change the ultimate situation - the only options I see are choosing to make it easier on yourself by bowing out now, or harder on yourself by bowing out later. The boyfriend/husband has options (stay with her vs. leave his pregnant wife over how she treated you) but neither insures a happy outcome for you. She (girlfriend/wife) has clearly made her choice - and it doesn't include you.:(
 
I'm sorry your GF broke up with you a week ago. And now your BF broke up with you today. Breaking up is never fun.

It sounds like you are grieving and need help during this time. I hope you feel a bit better for airing out here. I suggest you lean on other friends and family rather than trying to process all this with either her or him. Internet people can listen, but you sound like you need some "real life" support too.

It's only been a week, they had friends round for a bbq yesterday and because my sister is a neighbor (small village) I was present at hers listening to them getting sadder by the minute.

I think you could stay at your own home or invite sister over to your place for the next while.

Do not visit her there when the break ups are so fresh because they are the neighbors. If you visit and learn they are having a party, you and your sister can go out elsewhere or reschedule. Seek to MINIMIZE your hurt right now, not pile more on.

You cannot help if your GF has fallen out of love with you and ended things. You cannot help when they throw parties at their house.

You CAN help when you go over to your sister's home and overhear their things from next door. If you wish is to eventually be happy again... why do behavior that stresses you out like that right now? It seems at cross purposes.

I'm willing to take a step back if it means I still have him in my life, all I know is that this is pure torture right now, all I want is to be happy

At this time? I think no contact is best.

You and GF just broke up a week ago. You and BF just broke up today. That is two break up loads at once. :(

It's ok that it feels UGH right now. Anyone would feel ugh with just one break up. But a double break up? That's extra hard and painful. Could accept that it feels extra hard and do your self care.

If you want to be happy eventually? Give yourself more time to heal. I suggest stepping back from them both. Give yourself time away from all this. If you all end up good exes and friends, just good exes but not esp friends, or one of each, or something else... worry about all that LATER.

Concern yourself with your healing and self care at this time. Right now it sounds like part of you is sad to end it with GF and upset with her current behavior. Maybe a part of you hoped to move on to being happy in some sort of V if a triad was no longer possible.

But if he's made a choice to end it with you? Then you have to move on to being happy WITHOUT being a romantic partner to either of them. That will take some healing and some time.

It's rough. You have my sympathies. :(

Galagirl
 
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Thank you all for your kind words, I understand what I need to do. I am very close to my sister but my family doesn't really ever come to visit and I wouldn't see them if I didn't visit myself, they've never really been ones to bother with my girls unless I do, everybody being busy and all.

I am considering a move to the city as I find small village life rather stifling, it would be a long time coming but I can begin putting it in motion now for a better future.

My boyfriend has said he does not want to end things and that he wants me to be happy and find someone for me too, that I could do in the city or at least make friends and be happier. Their daughter and my youngest are of similar ages and we have all said we would never break that apart, their home has always been a sort of walk in place for my girls and given that they don't understand what's going on they will visit and play together while I stick around at my sisters so they can play outside. I don't think she'd be keen on her daughter coming to me for now.

My only worry is that every time he says he wants to try because he has her blessing, she gets jealous when we spend even a little time together or he texts me (as he should be free to do, they are together physically most of the time after all) and acts that way so he changes his mind and says he wants to but can't, that he feels it is unfair on me and I would be better without, and it all goes round in this cycle.

I guess I am just scared of the manipulation she can do. She has always been that way with him and he told me recently that because of me their relationship had gotten so much better, that he was happy for the first time instead of just content and that he has finally learned to stand up for himself and believe that he is attractive when he thought he wasn't before, he has confidence now and I'm proud of him for that.
Her and I used to be great friends, she would complain about him and I would stand up for her, after being together I began to realise how much he does for her, he works, cleans, cooks and gets their daughter up in the morning while she watches TV all day and complains that he makes her feel bad for not doing more, that she has a lot on her plate and is trying. Now she is pregnant and seems to be sore all the time, I do get that but I truly believe half of the time it is used as an excuse. I have been a single mother for 6yrs and understand that children are hard, I worked and had a toddler when I was pregnant with 2nd, ran a home and was sore and tired all the time but you know what? So do a lot of women and have to get on with it.

All I see is her making excuses when she really does have a good life and it's unfair on him but he does it anyway, part of me has begun to lose respect for him because of it, though I see he does it so he doesn't get snapped at and just wants everyone to be happy. You are correct though, I should be forgetting her and focusing on making my own grass greener, it is helpful to be able to air it out on here, writing it down does help. Thank you for listening to me rabbit on, it's much appreciated, you're all awesome :)
 
Glad it helped you some.

I am considering a move to the city as I find small village life rather stifling, it would be a long time coming but I can begin putting it in motion now for a better future.

Sounds like that's what you could focus on then.

Their daughter and my youngest are of similar ages and we have all said we would never break that apart, their home has always been a sort of walk in place for my girls and given that they don't understand what's going on they will visit and play together while I stick around at my sisters so they can play outside. I don't think she'd be keen on her daughter coming to me for now.

Honestly? IME, kids usually forget their early childhood friends. So don't put too much on that.

PLUS... She may not longer care for the children to be friends. Don't send your kids over to where the adult supervision is someone you no longer get on with. Do not have her kids in your sister's yard where you or sister are the adult supervision for her children.

Esp. when you fear her manipulations. Why put kids in the cross fire? Or you?

My only worry is that every time he says he wants to try because he has her blessing, she gets jealous when we spend even a little time together or he texts me (as he should be free to do, they are together physically most of the time after all) and acts that way so he changes his mind and says he wants to but can't, that he feels it is unfair on me and I would be better without, and it all goes round in this cycle.

Doesn't have to go around in a cycle for YOU.

YOU could decide not to participate in this talk any more. Tell him to stop it when he starts talking like that. Things are OVER. His waffling back and forth? That is HIS issue. Not yours. You can decide you no longer are up for listening to that stuff.

Besides... even if he was not waffling? He is offering you (an uncomfortable V where your metamour is your pregnant exGF, who you fear is manipulative.)

How's that an awesome dating situation for you? :confused:

I guess I am just scared of the manipulation she can do.

All the more reason to keep yourself and your kids away from all of them and focus on your city move. Doing things that make YOUR life brighter.

I hope you are able to move as you want to do.

GL!
Galagirl
 
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It is very sad, heartbreaking really, but I agree with the others here that you need to separate yourself and your life as completely as you can from these capricious people who don't seem to know what they want, or the meaning of loyalty.

I really don't know what's up with your former girlfriend, or why she suddenly decided she didn't love or want you. However, the fact that SHE declared her "love" for you (first) and drew you into a romantic situation that altered your whole life... YET had NO qualms about snatching it all away as soon as it didn't suit HER, speaks volumes about her trustworthiness and capacity for kindness. :( You mightn't see it now, but you're better off without someone that manipulative in your life.

As for the guy... he may say he only stays out of loyalty to his family, but that cannot be strictly true, because from what you say, they had already talked about expanding their family/getting pregnant - a decision he obviously had some input in(!) - which is an odd choice for someone who is only staying in a relationship "reluctantly". Either he is so "under the thumb" that he simply can't or won't stand up to his wife's machinations, or he's been stringing you along with words you want to hear (to soften the blow? make you feel sorry for him? to avoid taking responsibility? who knows?)

Their marriage does not seem particularly stable, and you've been treated like a second-class citizen by both. Mourn these losses as you must... but do yourself a favour and cut them out of your life.
 
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