Trans female looking for advice.

LauryAnne, are you able to ASSOCIATE with men ok? This is in no way meant as a judgment, but having intense anxiety about roughly half of the population would be debilitating. What you've written so far seems to indicate you feel fear surrounding the presence of men; I'm just hoping for you that superficial interactions are bearable.
 
Others have interpreted my comments and questions correctly. I am not a judgmental person. Everyone has the right to live and love the way they want. I hear you saying you only want to date lesbians because, if they are poly, they are not likely to be dating a man, and so would not ever have one of their male partners pass through your doorway.

As someone else said, you could date a bi or pan woman who had a male partner as long as she knew he couldn't spend time at your house. On the other hand, I know some lesbians only date lesbians because they can't even stomach the idea that a penis has recently (or even ever) been in their partner's vagina. I, of course, can not relate personally to this. I am sure they have their reasons, and find the idea disgusting or frightening or otherwise unpleasant. It's not my business!

If you were dating, say, a gold star lesbian, who was open-minded enough to date a pre-op transwoman (you), would it frighten you if she came by with her dad or brother or a platonic male friend? Do you hang out with platonic male friends of your own at all? Or do you just avoid all men as much as humanly possible?

I honestly wish you the best with your inpatient program because I am sure it must be exhausting to have one's guard up to that degree around men all the time. Of course, as women, we are all in a position of being vulnerable to rape or other sexual abuse on a daily basis. (Men can be raped too, of course, but it's rarer.) So, to a degree, we women all have to be careful. As they say, the first thing a man is worried about going on a date from a dating site is, Will she be fat? But women think: Will he kill me?

I can assure you, I have been around enough transpeople to know that there ARE cis-female lesbians out there who WOULD date a pre-op transwoman.
 
I know some lesbians only date lesbians because they can't even stomach the idea that a penis has recently (or even ever) been in their partner's vagina. I, of course, can not relate personally to this. I am sure they have their reasons, and find the idea disgusting or frightening or otherwise unpleasant. It's not my business!
This is a common discussion on both the Poly and the (female) Bisexual boards (lesbians won't date us because we interact with penises voluntarily (at times - and many of us have interacted with penises involuntarily at times - rape is, unfortunately, such a common occurance that MANY of us (including me, as I have discussed before) cis-or-trans, male-or-female-or-other have had to deal with in terms of immediate effects AND the aftermath - in my opinion, the reported incidence is WAY under-reported - most people don't want the trauma of rehashing the incidence(s).) .

In my experience, trans and pan people tend to vilify us (bisexuals) because we are "transphobic" - but if a lesbain trans-women is allowed to exclude "women with penises" from their dating pool, then why am I not allowed to exclude "women with penises" and "men with vaginas" (My attraction to women and my attraction to men are, actually, diametrically opposed - androgyny is a "turn-off" for me. I am attracted to "manly men" and "girly girls" with natural parts that match, and that they are happy with (comfort in your body is a "turn on" for me).

I feel that I shouldn't have to justify my "sexual attraction" to people. YES, that IS discriminatory - I should be "allowed" to discriminate between who I date and have sex with and who I don't!!! I shouldn't need to "justify" my decision just because I ID as bisexual!

JaneQ

(PS. I should probably go to bed before I write a manifesto...)
 
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No one has the right to allow or not allow you to be attracted to whoever whatever. You don't need anyone's permission to feel whatever you feel.
 
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