New to this...don't know how to label us?

KeenSprinter

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My wife and I had a discussion while on vacation several months ago about "opening" our marriage. A short while later we began dating, and subsequently fell very much in love with another married couple. The men in the relationship are straight, the women are bisexual. This scenario is very unique and new to the 4 of us. All of us have searched for how we should label ourselves? We've seen words from "polyamorous" to "cluster marriage", and everything in between.

How unique is our situation...2 long term married couples (15 years for us, 20 years for them) falling in love and carrying a relationship together, and what should we call ourselves?
 
Just go with it! I've been a member of this forum for 4 years and have gotten a lot of great feedback and guidance here. Welcome to the forum and you may get more feedback if you share a bit more!
 
Use whatever label resonates with you. Either of your suggestions would work. Polyfidelitous also, if you've agreed as a group to be "closed" to just the 4 of you. You could also call yourselves a Quad, even if not every "branch" is romantically involved.
 
Greetings KeenSprinter,
Welcome to our forum. Please feel free to lurk, browse, etc.

SchrodingersCat basically nailed it when she described what you could call your situation. I've also heard "group marriage" and think it would fit, if that label suits you. The point is, you're not under any obligation to wear any label unless there's one you want to wear. You can make one up if you want. Quite a few polyamorists have made up their own words to describe themselves. Considering the endless array of possibilities polyamory provides, there's probably never going to be a perfect word for every possible configuration.

My observation (starting from 2008 when I first started frequenting poly forums) is that "the fewer, the more common" is the rule for poly demographics. So, the most common type of poly unit you'll usually see is a three-person unit -- a V or a triad. Four-person units are seen somewhat less often but they're still pretty common. There's all kinds of connection layouts between the four people as far as romance and orientation is concerned. Your layout is certainly common enough.

Which begs the question, common enough for what? Actually, I don't know. Poly doesn't have requisites like "correct labels" or "minimum commonness." If anything, poly is a world of uniqueness and as such, customized labels and conspicuous uncommonness will abound. Since poly is relatively new for you, you may tend to feel self-conscious and uncertain of your place in the poly world. This awkwardness will be displaced by comfortable confidence in due time. Trust me, you'll fit in with the rest of us polyamorists just fine. And I definitely think you can refer to yourselves as polyamorists.

Hope these thoughts help. I'll be following this thread, in case you need to ping me for more info. But of course you can also ping any number of fellow site members on any board or thread. Just let us know if you have some more questions.

Sounds like you have a great poly relationship going; I wish you the best and hope Polyamory.com will serve you well.

Sincerely,
Kevin T., "official greeter" :)

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My wife and I had a discussion while on vacation several months ago about "opening" our marriage. A short while later we began dating, and subsequently fell very much in love with another married couple. The men in the relationship are straight, the women are bisexual. This scenario is very unique and new to the 4 of us. All of us have searched for how we should label ourselves? We've seen words from "polyamorous" to "cluster marriage", and everything in between.

I'd call it a quad in the midst of NRE (new relationship energy). It's common in the early months of excitement to be all involved emotionally and sexually, but after a while things can shake down and evolve into different degrees of involvement between this or that person.

How unique is our situation...2 long term married couples (15 years for us, 20 years for them) falling in love and carrying a relationship together, and what should we call ourselves?


Here, it isn't "unique" at all, quads happen and are written about. But like Kevin said, quads are less common that V's. A V is when one person has 2 lovers, but those 2 lovers are not involved. A triad is when all 3 are involved. This is tried a lot but usually fails. A quad might be more balanced than a triad... you've both got one partner to go home with at the end of the date.
 
Hmm... I think the most common pattern is zig-zag, with any one person being "locally" in a Vee, but those arms have their own Vees, etc. We just don't hear much about the other partners of our partners because they aren't usually a fixture in our world, or they affect us mostly when we think of our partner as being in a Vee with another arm who's difficult to handle for one reason or another.
 
Thank you for the great responses already. As I'm sure you can relate, there is a lot that we're still trying to figure out, it seems the emotional part is the easiest. I love how Kevin said, "you're not under any obligation to wear any label unless there's one you want to wear." Maybe we're a "W" :D

I've glanced through the guidelines a bit, and I will definitely take a look at the Golden Nuggets area when I have a chance later this evening. This looks like a pretty resourceful and reassuring forum for us. We've had a mixture of responses from the few people we've chosen to share our situation with. When I get some more time, I will be digging through the forums a bit to find some more discussions on topics that are on our minds. Specifically, how others have dealt with keeping their kids informed and comfortable, as well as other family members (not immediate family), and how open other poly folks choose to be about their relationships. On one hand, we almost feel as if we want to tell others that it's OUR lives, and they can either understand and support us, or they can go about their own lives and mind their own business (granted, that's probably not quite the "adult" way to handle things), and another side of us wants to just keep what we have private among ourselves and immediate families. We know that this isn't for everybody, and not everybody is going to understand. Heck, less than a year ago, we didn't even think something like this would ever happen to us!

Thanks, again, for the great feedback.
 
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Hey KeenSprinter,

I am in a very similar situation as you. We call ourselves a quad mostly because its a fun word to say :) But there are so many varieties of poly. Quads seem to be less common.

I am happy to hear that your group is finding happiness. As Magdlyn said NRE is very powerful at the beginning.

PM me any time if you wish to talk or have any questions.

Our quad has been together for 2 years now and life is simply blissful.

~S
 
Boing! I just figured out what the "barn door" means. It is the name of a configuration. Sort of like a Z superimposed over a square. Hence, two couples, with the women also romantically connected.

Yes, the wheels turn slowly in my brain, but they make it all the way around eventually. ;)
 
Boing! I just figured out what the "barn door" means. It is the name of a configuration. Sort of like a Z superimposed over a square. Hence, two couples, with the women also romantically connected.

Yes, the wheels turn slowly in my brain, but they make it all the way around eventually. ;)

Haha yeah...
 
I really hope you guys can make it work! It sounds like a fabulous setup, with so many possibilities!

What caught my eye was the part about wanting to be open about your relationship with outside people, but also wanting to enjoy the privacy and secrecy you have now as well. I know that feeling too well! At some point you have to choose ...

Well, bless you all and keep having fun!
 
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