Abuse accusations post break-up

Open4love

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Hi all, I recently broke up with a partner, Donna, of 3 years. Our major incompatibility was our conflict in relationship styles. Donna wanted something more monogamous looking: primary partnership that centered us as the couple and very cautiously introduced anyone else to the relationship (she had no prior poly experience). I wanted something more autonomous and something akin to relationship anarchy.

Donna did not feel secure in the relationship style I wanted, so I made major compromises, including stopping dating certain people she felt uncomfortable with, or agreeing to keep other connections separate and not introducing metamours until it was "serious" (apparently after at least 3 months of dating in her view). I restricted myself a great amount and often had trouble saying what I really wanted our of fear of losing her, as well as her often very potent emotional reactions.

As you can imagine, we had many communication issues, although we made a lot of progress in couples therapy and long processing sessions. Ultimately Donna broke things off after a covid miscommunication. I had thought we'd agreed that I could go on a date using same-day rapid tests for both parties, and that I'd be free to do as I pleased without pandemic restrictions. She was shocked to find out that I thought that and said she never agreed to that. I didn't argue with her, and said I guess it was an honest miscommunication, but she decided it was straight up manipulation (even though we had the convo before the date, and I never got to have the thing she was claiming I was trying to manipulate happening).

So Donna broke up with me due to not feeling safe around communication in our relationship. I felt good about the choice because I quickly realized all the ways I'd been compromising myself in the relationship, and I was excited about making better choices with future partners and being poly the way I wanted to. We had a loving but hard breakup and agreed that maybe someday we can revisit things and see if some kind of arrangement could work for us. We decided (well, she decided) that space was important and that we'd check in before events so we didn't see each other for a while. When we chose to communicate again, we'd do so in couple's therapy at first.

Flash forward 3 months and very little communication, I decided I was done checking in before going to events, as Donna had been incommunicado for a long time, and I also had an issue with a friend that was restricting my involvement in group/community spaces -- so I wanted to make my own choices for my mental health/social needs. I sent her a text telling her I'm giving a few more weeks, but after that no more checking in. I said we could talk about this in whatever way she needs (therapy, mediation, etc.).

No response. Two weeks later, I hear from a close friend that I am being accused of "emotional abuse" by Donna. She had gone to our shared circle of friends, apparently very scared she may have to see me again in social space without being ready for it, and rallied their support to keep that from happening. The "abuse" charge made them very sympathetic to that. This created a splinter in my friend circle, as some supported me and didn't think I should accommodate this demand to give Donna control over how I showed up in my friend circle, while others thought I was an "abuser" and should be removed and held accountable.

This created a huge debacle and eventually landed in the laps of the admin team of a Facebook poly group I helped create many years ago. I also am an admin in this group. They immediately asked me to step down as an admin without any effort to relay the accusations to me (I still didn't know exactly what the specifics were at this point). I had to strongly advocate for myself and set up a meeting where I could be heard, as well as understand the accusations. The accusations were "love bombing," gaslighting, and manipulating (pretty much all this revolved around our differing needs in relationship and communication styles). Donna also said I'm "charming" and would manipulate her if I talked to her, so she refused to do so because she felt "unsafe" and would be manipulated into agreeing with me.

So I've been going through this "process" of transformative justice with the poly admins, and it's almost complete, I hope. Honestly it's felt like one-sided couple's therapy, and not really productive. Many of the things relayed to me were things Donna expressed in couple's therapy many months ago and I was already aware of and working on. Never did I indicate I had an unwillingness to receive feedback and work on things. But Donna chose to go straight to the community and accuse me and make it into a victim/abuser narrative.

This all really hurts, especially with all of the mutual effort we put into understanding each other during our relationship. Now I'm an "abuser" and she is a "survivor." Not all my friends and community see it that way, and most have good perspective, luckily, but it has caused me a lot of stress and, in my view, led to very unnecessary energy expenditures from my community over something that could have been resolved in other less dramatic ways. And, while I appreciate any and all feedback about my behavior, it has been endlessly frustrating to only explore my side of a two-way dynamic. Donna has certainly not been a perfect innocent victim in our relationship, and in the end we were both choosing something that worked for neither of us, hurting each other along the way.

Anyway, thanks for reading if you got this far. I'd love to hear any thoughts you all have.
 
What have you learned from this experience?
Many, many things!

- I've learned that the people I want in my life are people who are willing to talk to each other to resolve conflict.

- I've learned that trauma can inform reality to such an extent that some people will gladly seek to destroy another person, or demonize them, without seeking to share an understanding. I'm learning how to have boundaries with people like this.

- The accusations, though things I'd already been aware of prior -- and mostly arose due to incompatible relationship needs and my failure to be completely honest with myself & Donna about what I wanted -- are helpful to further solidify some of my own personal growth and become a better person/partner.

- I've learned a lot about transformative justice and conflict vs. abuse and how community accountability processes can work. I've also learned that the people in my community are outstanding and wonderful folks who are trying their best to be fair and move towards healing for all.

Thanks for the question :)
 
fyi. I deleted my original post because I wanted to expand on it when I had more time. In short, I think the fact that your community has not rejected you is telling... As they are in the best position to hear both sides.
 
fyi. I deleted my original post because I wanted to expand on it when I had more time. In short, I think the fact that your community has not rejected you is telling... As they are in the best position to hear both sides.
Yes, I agree. It was a big fear of mine that I would lose my community over this. It's been a big lesson in trust. They really are incredible people with big hearts. <3
 
I'm sorry that happened.
  • Keep taking the high road.
  • Keep being up front and honest, but don't be another dramatic Donna.
  • Keep being up front and polite to the Facebook people investigating.
...a Facebook poly group I helped create many years ago. I also am an admin in this group.
I think any healthy group does shared leadership. So if you already had a long term volunteering at the steering wheel? Could recuse the post with grace and let someone else deal with that part. Just like you would take leave if you had some family emergency or life was changing for you in other ways.

Try to REDUCE the load you have going on. You can always take a turn again volunteering in this group later down after the storm.

She had gone to our shared circle of friends, apparently very scared she may have to see me again in social space without being ready for it

I don't know how it went down, but it sounds like she's one of those "dramatic acting out" types after a break up. Like she's chosen the most dramatic way to sow discord so the spotlight of attention is on her maybe? I could be wrong.

Donna also said I'm "charming" and would manipulate her if I talked to her, so she refused to do so because she felt "unsafe" and would be manipulated into agreeing with me.

Easy to solve. Don't talk to her any more. No email. No texts. Nothing. And never be in a room alone with her.

Just basic, boring "Hi" if you see her in the street and you do NOT stop to talk. You keep on walking.

Because then what is she gonna do? Complain how manipulative you are because you said "Hi" and kept on walking down the street?

This created a splinter in my friend circle, as some supported me and didn't think I should accommodate this demand to give Donna control over how I showed up in my friend circle.

Friends invite you to things. You RSVP that you will show up or not. Donna does not control the invitations from the friends hosting things. She does not control how you RSVP.

She can control whether or not SHE shows up to things if she was invited too.

And if you see her a friend gathering you can be off in another part of the room. And never be alone with her. And minimal conversation with her like "Hi. Excuse me" if you have to walk by to visit the bathroom or something.

while others thought I was an "abuser" and should be removed and held accountable.

That's fine. They can think things.

Removed from what? The Facebook group? You are already going thru the Facebook process to be held accountable there. Or you could decide to step down with grace before the process is over.

Removed from friend gatherings? That's easy. The friend hosts that side with her just don't send you an invitation in the first place if they already invited her.

You bump into Donna in the street? Say "Hi" like the boring polite like you would do to a bank teller or grocery clerk stranger. And keep on walking down the street.

Over time, esp if Donna keeps making drama with other people? The general community will see her someone who makes drama.
Sounds like some of them already see her stories don't line up with your character. You are fortunate.

You and her broke up. Be broken up.

This all really hurts, especially with all of the mutual effort we put into understanding each other during our relationship. Now I'm an "abuser" and she is a "survivor." Not all my friends and community see it that way, and most have good perspective, luckily, but it has caused me a lot of stress and, in my view, led to very unnecessary energy expenditures from my community over something that could have been resolved in other less dramatic ways.

Yup.

Again, I'm sorry you are going through this. It does sound like you are RELIEVED to be broken up, so try to enjoy that part of it and look forward to dating new and hopefully more compatible and less dramatic people.

Focus on the good parts you enjoy and less on the Donna stuff.

Galagirl
 
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Thanks so much, Galagirl :) Those are all very good words for me hear. I've been coming to a place lately where it doesn't have as much of a grip on my life anymore. It's been hard, but I feel very ready to put this all behind me and let the cards fall where they may. Stepping down from being an admin is certainly something I'm strongly considering.

As for where I was removed, it was broader community Discord group that was run by a (now former) friend of mine. He was the one who made the call to remove me after he heard about the accusations. My fractured friendship with him is an entirely different story, but very much intertwined with the Donna situation. Can't really do much about immature people who want to find a villain in their lives. :-/
 
Most welcome.

I've been coming to a place lately where it doesn't have as much of a grip on my life anymore. It's been hard, but I feel very ready to put this all behind me and let the cards fall where they may.

That's good. Ready to move on is a good stage to arrive at.

Stepping down from being an admin is certainly something I'm strongly considering.

I think that shared leadership is better for groups. Nobody is immortal, after all. And emerging leaders need a turn at the steering wheel to practice their skills so they get better at it. And experienced leaders need breaks. Investing in a rotating leadership even if it means putting up with newbie leaders sometimes? Or shaking things up now and then? The group can eventually have MANY competent leaders in reserve to take turns when Life Things Happen. And not like all relying on one person and if they get taken out, the whole group folds.

It's healthier for the group over all, and healthier on the individuals so they aren't shackled to the pressures of leadership all the time or at risk for burn out. IME, it also cuts down on group grumbles. Because they know it rotates, and if they want to take their own turn? Step up.

So if the time has come for you on that front too? Be ok with it.

Encourage the group to grow more leaders.

As for where I was removed, it was broader community Discord group that was run by a (now former) friend of mine. He was the one who made the call to remove me after he heard about the accusations. My fractured friendship with him is an entirely different story, but very much intertwined with the Donna situation. Can't really do much about immature people who want to find a villain in their lives. :-/

Yup. If this former friend and this Discord have to go too? Because you are trying to start a new chapter in your life with less drama? It's time.

It's ok to outgrow things or be at peace that sometimes things to come to an end.

It might make space in your life for new things that are more fun for you than a fractured friendship mixed with Donna weird.

Galagirl
 
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Hello Open4love,

Sorry to hear that you are going through this. It sounds like what once was a miscommunication, is now a difference of opinion, about what went on in your relationship with Donna. She believes that you abused her. You know that the two of you were simply incompatible. And on some level she may know she's in the wrong here, if she knows she would be convinced of your position if she were to let you talk to her. That is her decision, she wants to hold to her position and force you to stay away from her. You can't make that decision for her, you can only deal with your groups and friends, and tell your side of the story to the best of your ability. If a group decides to kick you out, that too is not your fault as it is something you have no control over.

I don't know why Donna is doing this. Perhaps on some level she feels some guilt over the role she played in the situation, and maybe she feels some shame over the fact that the two of you broke up, like it is a loss of prestige to her to have to admit that you broke up, so maybe she is trying to stave off the guilt and shame by rewriting the scenario, and asserting the rewritten version in your mutual groups so that your mutual friends will (she hopes) become her echo chamber. That's one theory anyway, I don't know what's really going on with her. And you don't have to figure out what's going on with her, the whole point of breaking up is that you don't have to figure that out anymore. Perhaps you can take some consolation in knowing you're no longer tied to, and associated with, someone who would treat someone like she is treating you.

I don't envy you, you have a sucky situation to deal with.
With sympathy,
Kevin T.
 
Thanks for the perspective, Kevin. It feels awful to have put in so much work toward understanding each other in our relationship only to be accused of abuse in the end. We were in couple's therapy and processed a TON. Our couple's therapist even told us after we decided to break up: "You each want the other person to be something they are not." Our dynamic was not ideal, but it certainly wasn't abusive in either direction. Just a lot of tension and us both continually choosing a situation that ultimately did not fully support either of us. :(
 
Yeah, sometimes breaking up is the kindest thing you can do. She may not realize that, and may be searching for a "better reason" why she would have broken up with you. Abuse is a good reason, right? so she *wants* it to be true, and has some confirmation bias at work. It's a shame that the two of you couldn't have broken up amicably, but sometimes a person has to break up with enmity, in order to be able to break up at all. She has her own necessities, I think it is probably best to accept that about her even if it doesn't make sense.
 
Unfortunately, once someone accuses someone else of abuse, the accused person is automatically guilty to the public because they can either agree with it, deny it, or give no comment. If you agree with it, then you are guilty. If you deny it, then you're "disbelieving the victim" or whatever the terminology du jour is. And if you give no comment either way, then obviously you must be hiding something or trying to avoid confronting the issue, so therefore, guilty...because anyone who has really been abused would never make that shit up.
 
Yeah, sometimes breaking up is the kindest thing you can do. She may not realize that, and may be searching for a "better reason" why she would have broken up with you. Abuse is a good reason, right? so she *wants* it to be true, and has some confirmation bias at work. It's a shame that the two of you couldn't have broken up amicably, but sometimes a person has to break up with enmity, in order to be able to break up at all. She has her own necessities, I think it is probably best to accept that about her even if it doesn't make sense.
The weird thing is that I thought we had broken up amicably and with a lot of love. It felt really sad for both of us, and we had some trouble letting go, as much as it needed to happen. There was so much sweetness in our desire to support each other, and this has felt like a complete 180.
 
Unfortunately, once someone accuses someone else of abuse, the accused person is automatically guilty to the public because they can either agree with it, deny it, or give no comment. If you agree with it, then you are guilty. If you deny it, then you're "disbelieving the victim" or whatever the terminology du jour is. And if you give no comment either way, then obviously you must be hiding something or trying to avoid confronting the issue, so therefore, guilty...because anyone who has really been abused would never make that shit up.
Yes, this is pretty much how is played out. Although I have been lucky having a reputation with the people involved in my accountability process, so they are giving me more benefit of the doubt than others may have in this situation. They have even said that it sounds like Donna needs an accountability process, too, as I described some of her behaviors to them.

But, really, I don't want that either. I just want to heal and move forward and be able to share space with a person who I have many mutual friends with. It's very sad how this has affected everyone in my and Donna's circle. It feels like airing dirty laundry and asking everyone else to clean it. And it has created so much pain and struggle beyond myself, all because she doesn't want to see me or talk to me, yet wants others to relay her concerns about me.
 
I just want to heal and move forward and be able to share space with a person who I have many mutual friends with. It's very sad how this has affected everyone in my and Donna's circle. It feels like airing dirty laundry and asking everyone else to clean it.
At least you and Donna didn't coauthor a popular book on how to have healthy relationships.
 
To me it sounds like you are afraid of getting a reputation as "abuser", which I can understand.
However, in my experience the only way to overcome a sucky rumor or reputation, whether it is in a facebook group or in high school, is by not letting it get to you, reminding yourself that it is just a rumor and proving people wrong by simply continuing to be your best self.

Slander and defamation of character are real things though, even (and especially) when something is "just a rumor".

This is turning really long, but I want you to know that I write this with the fullest sympathy - my former meta Brianna made sure before her breakup with our shared partner Arthur to lable me with every accusation she could come up with - beeing a "cowgirl", beeing a "gold digger", beeing emotionally abusive, beeing a sociopath, beeing a nymphomanian slut who will disgard of our partner once I find someone better - especially, to their shared friends, his siblings and his mother.
At the time this greatly hurt me and felt unjust and unfair and just ou
It's "being", not "beeing". There are other errors, and I realize English is probably not your native language.
 
Hi Open4,

I wonder if on some level, Donna started to worry that *you* were going to tell your mutual friends that it was *her* fault. Then she figured that the only way to stop that from happening was to preemptively accuse you of the abuse. This wouldn't have had to be a conscious process, as I said ... but she could have been feeling some guilt about her own role in the breakup, and guilt is not a comfortable feeling. Heaping blame on you may have gave her some relief from the guilt. This would be a subconscious emotional process that took some time to evolve. And I could be wrong ...

Sympathetically,
Kevin T.
 
Slander and defamation of character are real things though, even (and especially) when something is "just a rumor".
Agreed. It can be devastating and there is little one can do about it. I had a lot of fears that I'd be known throughout the community as an abuser and have to do a lot of work to clear my name. It seems like that isn't the case luckily, save a few people who want a villain to hate in order to distract themselves from their own issues.
 
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