Is polyamory a "lifestyle"?

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An offshoot of Albert Ross's take on his blog, here:


My post there is as follows:

I guess I object to forms of adult relationships as being called "lifestyles" at all. Never mind comparing poly people and swingers. Take monogamy. What is a "monogamous lifestyle"? There is no such thing. You can be mono and have a million different ways to live-- with kids or not, homeless or in a palace, ill or healthy, gay/queer/trans/non-binary or not, living together or not, loving each other or basically hating each other, gentle or passionate, happy or abusive, having sex or not, with involved large extended families or not, in the US suburbs or in a tiny African village, in the BCE era, the 1400s or the 2000s, etc., ad infinitum, and all of these marriages will appear quite a bit different, even vastly different, and involve different behaviors and activities throughout the days, weeks and years.

I do think that swingers and BDSM communities co-opted the term lifestyle and tainted it. In fact, the word "lifestyle" as a noun is rather new, relatively speaking, and it's actually kinda stupid. What is a "gay lifestyle"? What IS a "poly lifestyle"? There are many ways to live when you're gay. The are many ways to live when you're poly. There are even many ways to live if you're a swinger or kinkster. Sex itself is only required in swinging. The sex aspect is why they needed the euphemism of lifestyle.

I associate "lifestyle" with being coined in the early "mod" 1960s, with a sex and drugs and rock and roll, maybe jetsetter, "Eurotrash," overly trendy/fashionable, self-consciously groovy way of going. Something alternative, something that didn't pertain to a spouse, 2 kids, a 9-5 job, a house and a picket fence. Something where sex was done recreationally. If swingers feel they are better/cooler than others because they just don't fuck their spouse, they can have the damn word. Polyamorous people are more down to earth, at least in my experience and opinion (unless they are just NRE junkies, which is another topic).

I think a mere one-line definition doesn't do justice to the word lifestyle. It's pretty loaded. Gays got in a lot of shit for being seen as having a "lifestyle," often associated with an "agenda," when their "lifestyle/agenda" was just, wake up, drink coffee, eat, shit, shower, get the kids to school, go to work, buy and make food, get the kids to bed, sleep, repeat, just like pretty much any damn person on the planet.

This could devolve into a discussion, not so much of the mere word "lifestyle," as a discussion of how swingers live (with group sex with no feelings allowed) and how poly people live (with multiple loves that you date and have sex with, but one-on-one, usually). That seems to be more of a problem than one mere ill-defined word.

Albert's view is that the word lifestyle is a legit way to describe this relationship model. I find it vague in a possibly harmful way. He's afraid we alienate newbies by correcting them when they use the term "polyamorous lifestyle."

Thoughts?
 
Maybe we should ask newbies what they mean when they come here and say "something something this lifestyle" so we can get a better idea of what they think they're getting themselves into, *then* we can disabuse them of any misconceptions.

If I had to guess, many *couples* who say "polyamorous lifestyle" are unicorn/triad hunters who think that the "poly lifestyle" means finding a "third to share" whom they invite to live with them instead of everyone going home to their regular lives after sexy-time is over. Hence it's a "poly" lifestyle instead of a "swinging" lifestyle. Sort of like how not everyone who attends bondage play-parties is "in the BDSM/leather lifestyle" but someone who wears a collar and chastity belt under their business suit all the time could be considered "IN the lifestyle".

(These are just examples I came up with for the sake of discussion, not to try and define any particular people's behavior.)
 
A monogamous lifestyle is one where the people in the relationship confine some or all kinds of intimacy to between themselves. It's the type of lifestyle most partnered people lead. Yes it varies greatly, but exclusivity is a theme.
Sure, a monogamous relationship assumes exclusivity of love and sex to be confined to two people only. And a polyamorous relationship/series of relationships assumes love and sex to be between one person and at least two other people. My question is, is this a "lifestyle"?

Examples of musings on what the heck lifestyle even means (found on the web):

1) Simple definition: the way in which a person or group lives.

2) Some examples of lifestyles might include: Fitness/Body-centered, Materialist, Hedonist, Service/Spiritual, Technocrat, and Academic/Intellectual.

3) What defines a person's lifestyle? The lifestyle of a particular person or group of people is the living conditions, behaviour, and habits that are typical of them or are chosen by them.

4) What forms a lifestyle? Lifestyle is a way of life established by a society, culture, group or individual. This includes patterns of behavior, interaction, consumption, work, activity and interests that describe how we spend our time.

5) What describes a lifestyle? Lifestyle refers to the way a person or a group of people live, including their behaviors, habits, choices, and activities. It encompasses various aspects of daily life, such as social interactions, work, leisure, hobbies, diet, fashion, and cultural preferences.

The more you dig into what people mean by lifestyle, the less I think you can say there is one "mono lifestyle," or "poly lifestyle." If you include social interactions (outside romantic ones), work, leisure/entertainment activities, hobbies, fashion, diet, etc., a mono person and a poly person could easily be part of the same lifestyle, meeting each other at church, sports events, certain stores (for food, clothing, decor, books, hobby supplies), at restaurants, at entertainment venues (theaters, arcades, arenas), parks and other places in nature, at work, etc., etc. Therefore, they would be living the same lifestyle in many many ways, outside of their choice (or luck) of having one or more than one mate.

In my opinion, one's choice of mate, amounts of mates, should not be considered part of a lifestyle, since other things define how your life looks much more. I mean, it works, broadly, but it just seems lacking to me. A lifestyle being determined by how you practice showing your adult love for others is off-putting and irritating to me, when other things define your "way of life" much more specifically. You wouldn't say a child lives a "child's lifestyle," or a young adult lives a "single lifestyle." I really don't think you'd say a newlywed lives a "newlywed lifestyle" without it sounding odd. So, calling polyamory a "lifestyle" seems to be "othering" poly, as would calling living as a gay person a "gay lifestyle."

Just my musings. It's probably not that important of a distinction to many.
 
More on the history of the fairly new and modern word "lifestyle," and why it may or may not be properly used to refer to adult romantic relationships. Again, from the web:


AI overview:

The term "lifestyle" is believed to have originated with Austrian psychologist Alfred Adler, who first used it in the early 20th century to describe a person's basic character established in childhood, essentially referring to their pattern of behavior and reactions as a "lifestyle"; the word itself is thought to be derived from the German "Lebensstil" which translates to "life style" in English.


Key points about the history of "lifestyle":
  • Early usage:
    The earliest documented use of "lifestyle" in English was around the 1910s.


  • Adlerian psychology:
    In the field of psychology, "lifestyle" is primarily associated with Adler's theories where it refers to a person's established pattern of behavior developed in childhood.


  • Modern usage:
    While the term initially had a more psychological connotation, it later evolved to encompass a broader meaning describing a person's overall way of living, including their interests, habits, values, and consumer choices.
 
Ah, this part from wiki seems to help me:

Some commentators argue that, in modernity, the cornerstone of lifestyle construction is consumption behavior, which offers the possibility to create and further individualize the self with different products or services that signal different ways of life.[7]

Lifestyle may include views on politics, religion, health, intimacy, and more. All of these aspects play a role in shaping someone's lifestyle.

So, your "intimate relationships" might compose part of your lifestyle, but the intimate relationships themselves are not a lifestyle on their own.
 
" or a young adult lives a "single lifestyle."
I have heard this said before, but only in relative terms, such as "giving up the bachelor lifestyle to settle down" or "returning to the single lifestyle after being married for X number of years", not in discrete terms like "this is what the single lifestyle entails".
 
lifestyle. noun. life·style. ˈlīf-ˈstī(ə)l. : the usual way of life of a person, group, or society : the way we live.27 Oct 2024, Merriam Webster Dictionary

Definitions from Oxford Languages

noun
noun: lifestyle; plural noun: lifestyles; noun: life-style; plural noun: life-styles
  1. the way in which a person lives.
    "the benefits of a healthy lifestyle"

lifestyle - Quick Reference - The consumer's pattern and mode of living that is reflected in their consumer behaviour. It is manifest in the consumer's home, interests, tastes, leisure pursuits, opinions, and use of time at home, at work, at play, on holiday and in pastimes, hobbies, and sports. See also consumer marketing; geodemographics. From: lifestyle in A Dictionary of Marketing » Subjects: Social sciencesBusiness and Management

“A lifestyle can be defined as a more or less integrated set of practices which an individual embraces, not only because such practices fulfil utilitarian needs, but because they give material form to a particular narrative of self-identity.” “Lifestyles are routine practices, the routines incorporated into habits of ...1 Mar 2023 from https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10001804/#:~:text=“A lifestyle can be defined,routines incorporated into habits of

The lifestyle of a particular person or group of people is the living conditions, behavior, and habits that are typical of them or are chosen by them. "They enjoyed an income and lifestyle that many people would envy." Synonyms: way of life, situation, ways, life More Synonyms of lifestyle. 2. adjective [ADJ n] - Collins Dictionary

I'm only on my phone, and still pretty unwell, so I'm going to struggle with my own words about this. I do agree with Mags that:
So, your "intimate relationships" might compose part of your lifestyle, but the intimate relationships themselves are not a lifestyle on their own.

But I'm also drawn to the health psychology approach that a lifestyle comprises an
...integrated set of practices...[that] give material form to a particular narrative of self-identity.

I would say that my practice of polyamory is one of the integrated practices that make up my lifestyle. My job is another. Being child free is another. In essence, my lifestyle is unique, at least among my lovers, friends and acquaintances, because I am multifaceted. I don't embrace the notion of "the" polyamorous lifestyle because there are a vast number of poly people whose lifestyle bears absolutely no resemblance to mine. Just read a few blogs around here and it's quite obvious there are so many different ways of being polyamorous.

In saying that, there are enough commonalities between people who practice polyamory that we do have a sense of shared identity, or "something in common," ergo this site having the engagement it does, as do other polyamory sites.

I suspect when someone arrives stating they want to "explore the polyamorous lifestyle" it grates on some of us because of the connotations of one true wayism. And it makes me wonder what their source material is. When a couple post saying that they want to explore the polyamorous lifestyle...I think I'm going to start asking them for their source material first up, so we can establish what their vision is.

Truthfully, if someone states they want to "explore polyamory" I don't find that as jarring to read. Perhaps because, to me, "the polyamorous lifestyle" sounds like there's a mould to fit into, whereas I see polyamory as largely breaking the mould and being able to design my relationships from the ground up.

Being poly and having multiple relationships definitely is a part of my lifestyle and narrative of self-identity, as I expect it would be with the majority of regular contributors here, but I have very little else in common with the other bloggers here that I know a bit about, or other poly people I know in person.

From the consumerism perspective that a lifestyle is a
...pattern and mode of living that is reflected in their consumer behaviour,
then yes, I very much have a polyamorous lifestyle as I'm deliberately allocating different portions of my income to supporting my part in the different relationships I have (and supporting myself, of course).

Love is infinite, time and money are not, and I have a lot less money than would make my 'polyamorous lifestyle' easy. But that's largely because I have a serious long term, long distance relationship that involves air travel, and my income and other financial commitments rather prevent that being particularly frequent.
 
So, your "intimate relationships" might compose part of your lifestyle, but the intimate relationships themselves are not a lifestyle on their own.
That's how I see it. Polyamory is a PART of MY lifestyle. I may share that trait with others. But I don't see it as my lifestyle. It makes up a very small portion of my lifestyle. You'd be better off labeling my lifestyle as authentic as that encompasses the majority of how I live.
 
the "polyamorous lifestyle" sounds like there's a mould to fit into
Yes! This, exactly! It always gave me the creeps when I hear it or someone asks me how long I've been in the lifestyle, but I never had words for why. This is it, and there isn't one.
 
My question is, is this a "lifestyle"?
It depends on the individual. Usually, if someone feels like their life is oriented around an aspect of their life, they'll identify with it being central to their lifestyle. You have some people who go to the gym regularly, and it isn't a big part of their life. It's just something they do. Others feel that their health and fitness regime dictates their way of living, or their lifestyle.

It's personal identification. So for some people, monogamy or polyamory is a lifestyle.
the less I think you can say there is one "mono lifestyle," or "poly lifestyle."
But who said there was only one? Is there one type of exercise/activity-oriented lifestyle? No, it's a broad term that encompasses everyone from rock climbers, to joggers, to body builders, to professional athletes. Well, everyone who wants to identify that way. Some professional athletes would argue that they just have a job.
 
Evie and Bobbi, thanks for exploring the nuances of this issue that has been bugging me ever since Albert Ross objected in his blog to many polyamorists not wanting to describe their "love style" as a "lifestyle." I think we have every right to maintain that a way of having adult intimate relationships does not comprise an entire lifestyle. It just seems so obvious to me, and I'm glad to get more understanding of why. I'm a literature/language/history nerd, and agree that, as one resource I saw said, the very word "lifestyle" is overused. It's sloppy to call poly a lifestyle.

Here I want to break down what Albert said in his blog (since he seemed to be asking for a discussion of this there, but then pulled the plug).

Polyamory is, literally, a lifestyle.

It is not literally a lifestyle. As we have determined, it can be part of a lifestyle, but not broadly a lifestyle.

There's such a thing as specialization, where a word's meaning narrows over time in popular usage. An example is "doctor", which originally referred to a teacher (and is still used as an honorific for those who acquire certain university degrees) but has changed over time to usually refer to a person who practices medicine.

Yes, it's a given that language evolves, of course. That's not the issue here.

But "lifestyle" has a strange semantic narrowing that only seems to occur among practitioners of non-monogamy: apparently, some swingers appropriate the general noun and refer to their practice of non-monogamy as "The Lifestyle".

I wouldn't say the word's definition has narrowed. I think it has expanded, probably too much to be of much help anymore, without clearly defining it in every case (in psychology, in marketing, in casual social use).

I would assert that most practitioners of swinging have been calling this sex practice "The Lifestyle" since the 1960s, as a coy euphemism for "I consensually fuck other people besides my spouse." (Of course, some swinging is more coerced than actually joyfully consented to, but that's another topic.)

There are, of course, an enormous number of practices that could be described as lifestyles; elevating one of them to "The Lifestyle" is an arbitrary choice.

It wasn't arbitrary. It was coy. Was it useful? Sure. During the sexual revolution of the 1960s, there were many things that were spoken of in whispers, to avoid complete social approbation. Taking the word lifestyle and appropriating it to describe their sexual practice definitely tainted it in some ways.

The use of this newer term lifestyle made this sexual practice sound cool, exclusive, trendy, special, like a secret password, wink wink nudge nudge pineapple on the porch.

People who enjoy fishing and spend their weekends rod in hand could as easily begin referring to fishing as "The Lifestyle".

If you look at it from a consumerist point of view, fishing does require a lot of special equipment you have to purchase, so marketers could find it useful to call frequent fishing a lifestyle. But I don't think I'd say that a friend who likes to fish on weekends is practicing "the fishing lifestyle." There are huge differences in types of fishing, in a quiet pond, in a rushing river, casting at the edge of the ocean, going out on a sturdy boat to do deep sea fishing with a rod and strapped into a chair to reel in a marlin, or scuba diving and using a harpoon. Then there is the career of fishing, which requires specialized boats or ships, nets, winches, refrigerated holds, long-term storage for your own food, since you're out at sea for weeks at a time, etc. I think a professional fisherman could be seen as living a lifestyle more than a casual weekend fisherman, since being away at sea all day, every day, sometimes not being on actual land for weeks or even a year at a time, severely impacts what you eat, how you dress, how your romantic and family relationships go, your mental health, how you depend on your shipmates' skills and care for your very survival, and so on.

But fisherfolk hobbyists have no need for the coy euphemism of calling the enjoyment of fishing "a lifestyle." There's no need for a code word. They can just say "I like to fish," and no one judges them harshly (unless they practice it to such excess that they ignore their other responsibilities, of course).

Since this usage is so limited in scope, it's sort of obnoxious to see polyamorous people correct others' usage of the common noun "lifestyle" to refer to the practice of polyamorous relationships, claiming that since there's a fundamental difference between the lifestyle of polyamory and the lifestyle of swinging, and swingers have supposedly appropriated the term "The Lifestyle" to refer only to their lifestyle, that it is therefore somehow incorrect to use the common noun to refer to the lifestyle of polyamory.

Albert finds it obnoxious to correct newbies when they call polyamory a lifestyle. I find it obnoxious when people call it a lifestyle, partly because of swingers having appropriated the term, which thereby makes it seem as if swinging and poly are the same, and partly because the (over)use of the word is sloppy, vague, confusing and unhelpful.

So many newbies, and I mean many many, come here thinking that the "poly lifestyle" precisely means a triad, with a MF couple "adding a third" (the unicorn, the hot bi babe). Then they are disappointed. The couple hurts each other, and they damage their unicorns, because they think they're so ethically practicing an accepted "lifestyle," so don't understand how come it keeps going so horribly wrong.

To put that another way, if swingers described an instance of their relatively casual partner-swapping as "The Relationship", would you upbraid anyone who tried to describe their polyamorous bond with one of their partners as "a relationship"?

A relationship is not defined by casual fuckery, imo. If the swinger considered their sex partner to also be a good friend whom they see regularly for platonic activities, such as eating together, playing games, talking about their lives in a deeper way (e.g., a "friend with benefits"), then I'd say they have a relationship with this person, even if it's not fully intimate. As we know, in swinging, the married or coupled dyad reigns supreme. They aren't supposed to put nearly as much value into their [cough] relationships with their sex partners. "Don't get romantic!"

I'm sort of hoping your reaction to that example is "Of course not, that's ridiculous." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sure, he has to "hope" that, because his argument is weak.
 
Taking the word lifestyle and appropriating it to describe their sexual practice definitely tainted it in some ways.
The use of this newer term lifestyle made this sexual practice sound cool, exclusive, trendy, special, like a secret password, wink wink nudge nudge pineapple on the porch.
I think the problem is they use it as a noun to describe an act that's seen by mainstream as unacceptable behavior....it's like a child saying "number 1 and number 2" for bodily functions instead of pee and poop, because using those terms is dirty or forbidden. Lifestyle isn't a noun that you can use to describe your lifestyle.

That's how I see it when a noob comes in and says they are exploring this lifestyle. I see them as embarrassed, not quite ready to talk openly about polyamory but we get the code word instead....almost as if it's a whisper in air quotes.

During the sexual revolution of the 1960s, there were many things that were spoken of in whispers, to avoid complete social approbation. Taking the word lifestyle and appropriating it to describe their sexual practice definitely tainted it in some ways.
Lol. I guess we were on the same page here.
If you look at it from a consumerist point of view, fishing does require a lot of special equipment you have to purchase, so marketers could find it useful to call frequent fishing a lifestyle. But I don't think I'd say that a friend who likes to fish on weekends is practicing "the fishing lifestyle." There are huge differences in types of fishing, in a quiet pond, in a rushing river, casting at the edge of the ocean, going out on a sturdy boat to do deep sea fishing with a rod and strapped into a chair to reel in a marlin, or scuba diving and using a harpoon. Then there is the career of fishing, which requires specialized boats or ships, nets, winches, refrigerated holds, long-term storage for your own food, since you're out at sea for weeks at a time, etc. I think a professional fisherman could be seen as living a lifestyle more than a casual weekend fisherman, since being away at sea all day, every day, sometimes not being on actual land for weeks or even a year at a time, severely impacts what you eat, how you dress, how your romantic and family relationships go, your mental health, how you depend on your shipmates' skills and care for your very survival, and so on.
But I still wouldn't call it the fishing lifestyle. Lifestyle is not a noun. It would be the lifestyle of a fisherman. THAT we all get. Just as we get the lifestyle of a swinger means they swap sex with others and the lifestyle of a polyamorist is that they have multiple partners. I'm also a skater, dancer, and martial artist. All of these things are part of MY lifestyle and each of these things denotes certain actions, traditions, and even cultures. But I am not these things. It's about separating who you are from what you do. That's also why I don't agree that polyamory is an identity. I respect those who claim it as theirs, but some people also claim having cancer as an identity too. I think it's harmful to turn something that's a big part of your life into an identity.

Sorry for the left turn, but it was relevant to how I see lifestyle.
So many newbies, and I mean many many, come here thinking that the "poly lifestyle" precisely means a triad, with a MF couple "adding a third" (the unicorn, the hot bi babe). Then they are disappointed. The couple hurts each other, and they damage their unicorns, because they think they're so ethically practicing an accepted "lifestyle," so don't understand how come it keeps going so horribly wrong.
YES!!!
 
The more I think about it the more I'm reminded of the ways "lifestyle" came to be used as a noun and none of them are good. It was used by straight people to describe gays as doing something shameful and even coined the term "alternative lifestyle" to describe anything that wasn't straight, hetero, "normal" people who do "normal" things. That's probably where the use of the term became normalized and people simply forgot that it's used to demean people into group identity used to opress people based on that identity.
 
It's about separating who you are from what you do. That's also why I don't agree that Polyamory is an identity. I respect those who claim it as theirs, but some people also claim having cancer as an identity too. I think it's harmful to turn something that's a big part of your life into an identity.

So what things are okay? What about a religion? Can you live a Jewish lifestyle? Is that harmful? Or a vegan lifestyle?

I personally think that the problem here is the difference between the words "the" and "a". I think people are conflating them to make a point.

If you say THE lifestyle, then perhaps that denotes one specific way of living a poly life. If you say A lifestyle, it could mean anything from UHs with a hot bi babe, to RAs living in a commune.

There's nothing wrong with someone saying they live A poly/vegan/Jewish/fisherman's lifestyle if they feel they do.

I agree with @Albert Ross that for the most part, it's an unnecessary debate to bring to a newbie. Any critique of their actions (planned or past) can take place without arguing whether or not they are leading or want to lead A poly lifestyle. The answer is likely that they are leading some sort of poly/ENM lifestyle because they identify as such.
 
Lifestyles:



 
@Bobbi lifestyle is literally a noun, please see the dictionary entries earlier in the thread.

Ref suggested an approach in post #2 which I continue to endorse.

Maybe we should ask newbies what they mean when they come here and say "something something this lifestyle" so we can get a better idea of what they think they're getting themselves into, *then* we can disabuse them of any misconceptions.

Let's find out what they know already. What they've read/watched/lived.
 
I suspect that some newbies use the word "lifestyle" because they are laboring under the belief that "lifestyle" is the officially accepted term. They're just trying to fit in.
 
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