Overcoming years old relationship hiccups

Hello all! I've been practicing polyamory for going on seven years, and something that happened a couple of years ago recently came back up with a partner. It's been a source of some insecurity for several years and I've done an enormous amount of processing around it, but have never 100% recovered from it.

Basically, my partner of several years had one date and a few phones calls with someone, and in the midst of NRE, asked on the way to our anniversary dinner to de-escalate how often we saw each other, from twice per week to once per week, to make space for this new relationship. (When we first started dating, a mutual desire for a high level of frequency was a big draw for both of us.) She said that it would be against her poly philosophy to treat our relationship as a higher priority than another relationship, regardless of how long that relationship had been going. This came as quite a shock, but she was a lot more experienced with polyamory than me at that point in time, so I looked up to her and her judgment, and figured this must be a part of polyamory--getting sidelined for the new and exciting, as I thought might one day happen. Well, that new relationship quickly fizzled, and I spent a lot of that month supporting her through what was a difficult breakup with that new person. Months later, it hit me how much that sudden request to de-escalate and treatment of our deeply established relationship hurt me and impacted how secure I felt in the relationship. We discussed things a lot, she regrets pretty much everything about what she did and said, but the fact that she asked to de-escalate a multi-year relationship for someone she just met has left a bit of a mark. I think about it now and then, especially when our anniversary rolls around.

We've discussed this topic inside and out, and I feel that I've worked through what I can and have accepted that some hurts in life can take a long time to heal. She ended up bringing the topic up recently while discussing another matter and I let her know that, yes, I do still think of it sometimes and it still sometimes impacts how secure I feel, which was of course upsetting to her. (This is not a topic that I ever bring up myself as I feel it has been discussed to death already.) She said that she really questions whether I have worked through things as much as I say if it still hurts me to think back about it, but I don't think that's a reasonable expectation to put on myself. It just stings to remember how our relationship was treated in that moment in time, which I think is reasonable, as our relationship is very important to me.

In my mind, the matter is settled, it's something that makes me feel a bit sad and insecure sometimes but I don't feel any resentment toward my partner over it. But while she has now said she will not bring it up again, I can only imagine that one day, she very well may. It always results in me needing to console her due to how badly she feels about it being something that still impacts me, even if it is at this point fairly minor. At this point, I feel worse about her feeling bad about it than I feel about what originally happened. Has anyone effectively dealt with longstanding things like this, and how did you (or do you) approach it?
 
Hello WatchTheFireworks,

We can't dictate our feelings, you can't dictate how you will feel, she can't dictate how she feels. I'm just curious, how much responsibility has she taken for what she did, has she apologized, has she taken steps to restore the broken trust? I just wonder if she feels guilty on some deep-seated level, and to make that go away is trying to get you to shoulder the blame. Like it's your fault for feeling bad. What she did was bad enough that she should expect it to sting a little, even years later. And as I said, I don't know if she really took the responsibility for making it right. If she did, and you've forgiven her, then there is no need for her to bring it up again. Just my opinion.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
She has definitely owned up to it, apologized, has been very intentional about not repeating past mistakes when seeing new people, etc. I don't think she's trying to get me to shoulder anything. If she could, I'm sure she'd rather shoulder all the negative feelings as she fully accepts responsibility. But she's also someone who likes to talk about feelings in general a lot and try to work through everything, and maybe it's been hard for her to accept that this is something no amount of discussion will fully resolve. I think you may be right--if it starts to come up again, I can remind her that we've agreed that this is no longer a useful topic to discuss, unless there is some pertinent reason for revisiting it.
 
She has definitely owned up to it, apologized, has been very intentional about not repeating past mistakes when seeing new people, etc. I don't think she's trying to get me to shoulder anything. If she could, I'm sure she'd rather shoulder all the negative feelings as she fully accepts responsibility. But she's also someone who likes to talk about feelings in general a lot and try to work through everything, and maybe it's been hard for her to accept that this is something no amount of discussion will fully resolve. I think you may be right--if it starts to come up again, I can remind her that we've agreed that this is no longer a useful topic to discuss, unless there is some pertinent reason for revisiting it.
I think the following statement is where kdt’s coming from:

“It always results in me needing to console her due to how badly she feels about it being something that still impacts me, even if it is at this point fairly minor.”

I believe you should never have to console someone else about any feelings they have about a time they’ve hurt you, even though it can be hard not to sometimes. Whether that pressure comes from her, yourself, or a bit from both might be a good thing to keep an eye on for the future.
 
I think the following statement is where kdt’s coming from:

“It always results in me needing to console her due to how badly she feels about it being something that still impacts me, even if it is at this point fairly minor.”

I believe you should never have to console someone else about any feelings they have about a time they’ve hurt you, even though it can be hard not to sometimes. Whether that pressure comes from her, yourself, or a bit from both might be a good thing to keep an eye on for the future.
Thanks, that is good feedback. I think that this is something I sometimes step myself into, not something I am externally pressured towards. I'll keep this in mind!
 
Hi and welcome to the forum.

Hello all! I've been practicing polyamory for going on seven years, and something that happened a couple of years ago recently came back up with a partner. It's been a source of some insecurity for several years and I've done an enormous amount of processing around it, but have never 100% recovered from it.
I’m assuming you’re not married to the partner in question. Is anyone in this dynamic legally married?

How many partners do each of you have currently and have had historically over the yrs?

Basically, my partner of several years had one date and a few phones calls with someone, and in the midst of NRE, asked on the way to our anniversary dinner to de-escalate how often we saw each other, from twice per week to once per week, to make space for this new relationship. (When we first started dating, a mutual desire for a high level of frequency was a big draw for both of us.) She said that it would be against her poly philosophy to treat our relationship as a higher priority than another relationship, regardless of how long that relationship had been going. This came as quite a shock, but she was a lot more experienced with polyamory than me at that point in time, so I looked up to her and her judgment, and figured this must be a part of polyamory--getting sidelined for the new and exciting, as I thought might one day happen. Well, that new relationship quickly fizzled, and I spent a lot of that month supporting her through what was a difficult breakup with that new person. Months later, it hit me how much that sudden request to de-escalate and treatment of our deeply established relationship hurt me and impacted how secure I felt in the relationship. We discussed things a lot, she regrets pretty much everything about what she did and said, but the fact that she asked to de-escalate a multi-year relationship for someone she just met has left a bit of a mark. I think about it now and then, especially when our anniversary rolls around.
1) It’s been several yrs since the incident. In the numerous discussions that have occurred, has she ever explained why she chose the anniversary dinner to inform you of her wish to de-escalate/reallocate time? Timing sometimes really matters. I’m trying to imagine what the thinking there was.
2) Another member had a similar experience and conversation with his wife or partner, only specifically regarding sex.
My point, the mindset exists.
3) She regrets everything she did and said because it cause pain and associated rift, endless cycles of bullshit, OR she regrets the philosophy and thinking behind her request?

We've discussed this topic inside and out, and I feel that I've worked through what I can and have accepted that some hurts in life can take a long time to heal. She ended up bringing the topic up recently while discussing another matter and I let her know that, yes, I do still think of it sometimes and it still sometimes impacts how secure I feel, which was of course upsetting to her. (This is not a topic that I ever bring up myself as I feel it has been discussed to death already.) She said that she really questions whether I have worked through things as much as I say if it still hurts me to think back about it, but I don't think that's a reasonable expectation to put on myself. It just stings to remember how our relationship was treated in that moment in time, which I think is reasonable, as our relationship is very important to me.
I think in poly dynamics there are things that can be rationalized and/or compartmentalized, and then there’s stuff that can’t because of the meaning we attach to them.

I’m curious as to what she thinks it means to have "worked through" things.

Anyone ever thinking about changing the anniversary to another significant date? Bury the past kind of thing. One less annual reminder.

In my mind, the matter is settled, it's something that makes me feel a bit sad and insecure sometimes but I don't feel any resentment toward my partner over it. But while she has now said she will not bring it up again, I can only imagine that one day, she very well may. It always results in me needing to console her due to how badly she feels about it being something that still impacts me, even if it is at this point fairly minor. At this point, I feel worse about her feeling bad about it than I feel about what originally happened. Has anyone effectively dealt with longstanding things like this, and how did you (or do you) approach it?
Is there any pattern as to how or why she brings this topic up?

"It always results in me needing to console her." What would happen if you chose not to console her, let her sit with her guilt, shame, whatever? I’m thinking changing the cycle might change the input.
 
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Could it be that she brings it up knowing you'll end up comforting her when there is actually something else she's seeking comfort for but can't articulate?
 
I'm sorry that happened.

In my mind, the matter is settled, it's something that makes me feel a bit sad and insecure sometimes but I don't feel any resentment toward my partner over it.

Ok. Sometimes grief pops up. Like, you notice it when it does, but it's nothing to get bent out of of shape over. Sounds like you are mostly at peace with it. It pings now and then, but over time, it's been reducing.

But while she has now said she will not bring it up again, I can only imagine that one day, she very well may. It always results in me needing to console her due to how badly she feels about it being something that still impacts me, even if it is at this point fairly minor.

That's the part the doesn't sound at peace. Why do you "have to" to console her about it, rather than decide that each one does their own processing of it?

You could not "imagine." Deal with it if/when it actually happens the way you planned to deal with it.

At this point, I feel worse about her feeling bad about it than I feel about what originally happened. Has anyone effectively dealt with longstanding things like this, and how did you (or do you) approach it?

I think you could let it be. If she upsets her own self thinking about it, and brings it up again when she said she wouldn't, it's ok to say you don't want to rehash old stuff any more. It's ok to not console her and let her regulate herself on her own.

There is being there for a partner, to a reasonable degree, and then there's helping them pick at old scabs. You can't stop her from picking, but you don't have to join her in it, esp if it becomes a "circle conversation" that just isn't productive or helpful.

It's ok to have reasonable boundaries with a partner.

But she's also someone who likes to talk about feelings in general a lot and try to work through everything, and maybe it's been hard for her to accept that this is something no amount of discussion will fully resolve.

Could she talk to a counselor about it, instead of you, if she has things about this event that she still needs to sort out for herself?

www.polyfriendly.org

That might help her find someone.

Galagirl
 
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