A New Concept

McMurphy

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Polyamory was introduced to me by my wife after 6 years of being together. We got together initially as friends looking for fun. In the beginning she expressed to me her concerns for me being with other women. Stating that if I were to be with anyone else that I tell her so our relationship could end. I reluctantly agreed however did not follow the guidelines set in place. I slept with another women and not long after that told my future wife about the situation. We got through it after several fights and moved on, our relationship became stronger until I received a job offer across the country.

I moved across the country with the agreement that my future wife would follow in a few months when she finishes her degree. Things became very bumpy at that time when I realize the previous girl I had relations with took the same job across the country. I did not speak a word of this to my future wife for fear of what she would say or do. In the meantime she was living it up back home with some friends from college(mostly male) which concerned me. Later on we both discovered that we had been lying to each other. I hid the truth about the other female being around and she hid the truth about hanging out with certain male friends and telling me she was with females.(to this day she will claims she had only platonic relationships with these males). We forgave each other and this made us stronger.

I proposed to her and we soon found out that she was pregnant. We had our first child, then a few years later our second. We have always been in a monogamous relationship, with her never wanting me to even watch porn. She had sometimes expressed to me that she likes women but could never do anything with one. And that if I did something with one to never tell her about it.

She started a job at a gym as a past time because she was a stay at home mom. She was feeling very trapped. At her job she was constantly surrounded by beautiful people and getting hit on a lot. I’m the very jealous type so naturally this bothered me. But I was able to push it to the side. Not to long after she came to me discussing her views on polyamory. Telling me that she wants to be in relationships with other people and have the freedom to be with them emotionally and sexually (male and female). This caught me completely by surprise, this was a woman would completely changed me. I had zero problem in the past being with whatever woman I wanted to be with but it was strictly sexual for me. To now only being with one woman and only wanting one woman. I cherish our monogamous relationship and could not even stand the thought of my wife being with someone else emotionally or sexually. She claims to have always been this way but I just don’t see it given the previous experiences we’ve had. She claims that it wasn’t set off because of one specific person but I am very suspicious of that

I know this is alot of background and hopefully you will read all the way through but I really could use some insist on polyamory especially people with children. I don’t know what to do, I don’t want to be polyamorous but my wife does. Even though she say how it broke me and told me to forget she even brought it up. I know this is what is in her heart. I just want to understand, I want to try and make this work but I don’t know how.
 
I hope you feel better for the vent. Let me try to sum up in my own words.

So in the end...

She told you that she wanted to explore polyamory and be in relationships with other people and have the freedom to be with them emotionally and sexually (male and female). She was asking if you'd be up for that.

This caught you completely by surprise. Because while in the past you were up for sharing sex with other people, not so much sharing emotional intimacy. And today? You want to be with one woman, and only want one woman -- your wife. You don't want to do poly. You like doing monogamy.

After conversation, even though she wanted to try it, wife now says she sees how having the conversation "broke you" and how poly wasn't something you want to do. And to forget she even brought it up.

In other words, though she'd be interested in exploring that, she can take it or leave it. And if you aren't into it, she's ok not exploring poly. Just let it go then.

But now you are worried she's just saying that and doesn't actually mean it?

So you are trying to understand polyamory? And consider if you can make this work after all?

Like what? Mono on your side and poly on her side of things?

Is that what you mean? Is this where you are at?

Galagirl
 
I was never the one for monogamy before I met my wife. Even in the very early stages when we first met I wasn’t fully committed. She helped push me in a different direction that I didn’t think was possible and when we had kids it only secured me in my ways even more.

I am very concerned that she will come to me in the future expressing her feelings about someone else. She is telling me to let it go but she has also expressed that this is the person she is and has always been. She says she would never in a million years let me go.

I want her to be happy and who am I to stop her from being the person she says she is. I want to understand poly. I want to understand how someone could share their partner with other people. I am very open minded and I’m considering poly but I know myself and my own struggles with insecurities and jealousy. Being completely ignorant on the subject matter I feel like this would only destroy our relationship.
 
Maybe you should read some books before posting. Talking about your insecurities with a bunch of internet strangers who are already hip to the philosophy is going to be disorienting for you.

Frequently recommended titles include:
More Than Two
Polysecure
Sex at Dawn
 
I was never the one for monogamy before I met my wife. Even in the very early stages when we first met I wasn’t fully committed. She helped push me in a different direction that I didn’t think was possible and when we had kids it only secured me in my ways even more.

Well, people change over time. And what a person wants in their teens is not the same thing as what they want in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, etc. It is ok for you to be whoever you are TODAY.

I am very concerned that she will come to me in the future expressing her feelings about someone else.

Well... how about worrying about it if/when it comes to pass? While encouraging honest conversation? You cannot be a mind reader. You can only work with what she tells you.

She is telling me to let it go

Could believe her.

but she has also expressed that this is the person she is and has always been. She says she would never in a million years let me go.

I mean this kindly, ok? There I kinda go "Oh. One of the "always and never and forever people."

A communication style that is not always literal. But more like painting a picture. Which can be challenging if you are a more specific language user.

I don't use "always" and "never" because who knows? I prefer to take things case by case. I don't say "million years" because I won't live that long. So when I talk to people with that communication style I accept it conveys a lot of emotion or passion... OF THE MOMENT. And doesn't necessarily mean REALLY A MILLION YEARS. It just means "very unlikely" underlined.

So I take it like " Ok. That's what you think at this point in time, and you use colorful language."

I have a friend. Say "Fern." I have known her for over 20 years. She's not one of those people with a memory like an elephant. Where I am. She uses language like that to convery her strong feelings about something and I've heard her say things like "I've always done X." But I've known her like 20 something years and I KNOW FOR A FACT this was not "always." She's just forgotten some of the things of our young adult days and she's just on whatever the passions of today are. So to her she means "I've been doing this for what feels like a long time to me."

I don't get excited when Fern goes toward colorful language. Maybe it's ok for you not to get excited about it here either?

I want her to be happy and who am I to stop her from being the person she says she is.

You aren't stopping her from being who she is. She's TELLING YOU what she's up for and is willing to do.

Sounds like she lands on this one.
  • Monoamorous (wants to love 1 sweetie at a time) + monogamous (wants 1:1 relationship model only)
  • Monoamorous (wants to love 1 sweetie at a time) + relationship shape flexible. Fine doing monogamy. Fine being like an end point in a poly V or similar.
  • Polyamorous (could love more than 1 sweetie at a time)+ relationship shape flexible. Fine doing monogamy. Fine being like an end point or hinge in a poly V or similar.
  • Polyamorous (could love more than 1 sweetie at a time)+ polyamorous. (wants to be in poly shape relationships only.)
So believe her that she's fine letting it go.

Is it that you have residue from before when you both would lie to each other?

I want to understand poly. I want to understand how someone could share their partner with other people. I am very open minded and I’m considering poly but I know myself and my own struggles with insecurities and jealousy. Being completely ignorant on the subject matter I feel like this would only destroy our relationship.

Well apart from books above, you could do some reading online



And maybe that's a middle place.
  • You learn about poly and let her express her poly thoughts and feelings so she's not going around bottled up so it's a bit more open for her.
  • She doesn't date anyone but you so it's still closed enough for you.
And work on your insecurities and jealousies even if you both agree to stay in a monogamous structure. Because it would help it be a healthier monogamous structure if both partners are secure in their own selves.

Depending on the ages of the children? Intense parenting time may not a great time to start doing poly. It's one thing if you were already poly before kids but to start poly when also fielding very young children or high needs older kids? Might be hard. It's ok to get through one chapter of life before starting a new one. You don't have to live all the chapters at once.

HTH!
Galagirl
 
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Welcome to the board. We have very nice helpful people here, many of whom have been practicing polyamory quite successfully for a decade or two! It's possible to be very in love with your nesting partner and still want more. The book Sex at Dawn that Inaniel mentioned goes into human mating practices throughout the ages. It's true that all animals, including us humans, are wired to be able to desire and mate with more than one partner, either serially or simultaneously. You can choose to be mono, of course, at this or that period in your life.

It sounds like your wife has Mommy burnout going on. She's rather thrilled to be working out and being around friendly fit people. That's pretty normal.

I reckon you fear that if your wife (who needs a nickname... let's say Alice) starts dating others, it will destabilize your family life, rock the boat, even cause harm or divorce. But this not need be the case. Many people who have experienced the joys of dating more than one (as you did in the past) can learn to become more comfortable with polyamory over time. It often takes a year (more or less) for a formerly mono couple to learn how to do this ethically. You had a "don't ask don't tell thing" going on already, more or less. Polyamory is just the next step. Speaking openly and honestly about feelings for others can even sometimes bring a couple closer together. It can feel very good to admit to having desired others.

Marriage is an economic and social construct, but with the rise of feminism and the slow demise of the patriarchy, many people are exploring other options. We were poly for a million years. We've only been mono for about 1500 years. Of course, some cultures still practice polygyny. But now women want that same freedom men have had.

It's scary though. Rest assured, we know!
 
Hello McMurphy,
There are some links that might interest you:
It sounds like you are going through a difficult time in your life, you are hurting inside. Your wife has told you that she wants poly, and that is a bell that can't be unrung. You fear that she will become interested in someone in the future. You fear that poly will destroy your marriage. These are valid fears and hurts. I don't blame you for feeling jealous and insecure, your wife didn't mean to unload a huge burden onto you, but that's what she has done. I just hope that with this forum, you can come to feel that you are not alone.

With sympathy,
Kevin T.
 
Thank you for all your insight. I have a lot of self work to do. I don’t know if I’ll ever be ok with polyamory but I will certainly try.
 
Thank you for all your insight. I have a lot of self work to do. I don’t know if I’ll ever be ok with polyamory but I will certainly try.


Just remember, that being monogamous is ok too. This isn't for everyone and you should not feel either shame or guilt for being mono.

I wish for you peace on your journey.
 
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