Advice please.

Wait, she's not having sex with you but wants to seek out other partners? THAT I would not be cool with. I would not bw okay for a second being denied while nate went out having sex with others

@ Inyourendo:
We are having sex just not very often. But when I mention wanting more she says that because she can't be with multiple people, she turns off her sex drive completely and she is not often in the mood. I usually am the one trying to get things going :-/

I was that woman so I know just how she feels. I met my husband back in 1974, married in '78, long before polyamory was a thing. He knew I got crushes on others, and he tried to control my sexuality for decades. He'd get jealous if I danced with someone else, had a hug with someone that lasted too long, talked too long or about sex with another, and he hated me getting crushes on celebrities. I was also bisexual and he didn't approve of that either!

I married him for his good qualities, of which there were many. Other than the sex bit, we had tons in common, so there was always plenty of good times.

However, our sex life suffered because, like your wife, if he was going to shut me off to others, the only way I could deal was to shut down my sexuality in general. Finally after about 20 years together he accepted my sexual preferences enough to at least fantasize with me while we were having sex, about me being with women or other guys. I got totally turned on to be finally understood and accepted at least to that point, and our sex life went through the roof in quality and quantity.

You may find that happens for you too. She won't just be giving it away to others, you'll get more too! Even if you just start talking openly about it, and supporting her, you will probably find you get more sex. We see that happening all the time here. I am not the only one who experienced it.
 
I was that woman so I know just how she feels. I met my husband back in 1974, married in '78, long before polyamory was a thing. He knew I got crushes on others, and he tried to control my sexuality for decades. He'd get jealous if I danced with someone else, had a hug with someone that lasted too long, talked too long or about sex with another, and he hated me getting crushes on celebrities. I was also bisexual and he didn't approve of that either!

I married him for his good qualities, of which there were many. Other than the sex bit, we had tons in common, so there was always plenty of good times.

However, our sex life suffered because, like your wife, if he was going to shut me off to others, the only way I could deal was to shut down my sexuality in general. Finally after about 20 years together he accepted my sexual preferences enough to at least fantasize with me while we were having sex, about me being with women or other guys. I got totally turned on to be finally understood and accepted at least to that point, and our sex life went through the roof in quality and quantity.

You may find that happens for you too. She won't just be giving it away to others, you'll get more too! Even if you just start talking openly about it, and supporting her, you will probably find you get more sex. We see that happening all the time here. I am not the only one who experienced it.

Magdlyn,
So are you and your husband still together? If so, how did he learn to cope with the change?
 
We have gone to couples counseling about three times now. It seemed the last session wasn't very productive so I'm hoping it gets better.

My husband and I went for 18 months. It was nearly a year before things really got back on track, even after we stopped going for financial reasons, I wish we could have continued. These things take time. However, if you aren't feeling the connection with the counselor, that may impede the process instead of helping it. Is the counselor poly friendly? If not, your wife could be completely on the defensive, which will not help your marriage.
 
My husband and I went for 18 months. It was nearly a year before things really got back on track, even after we stopped going for financial reasons, I wish we could have continued. These things take time. However, if you aren't feeling the connection with the counselor, that may impede the process instead of helping it. Is the counselor poly friendly? If not, your wife could be completely on the defensive, which will not help your marriage.

SNeacail,
The counselor is both kink and poly friendly. Both my partner and I like her, I think I just need to be patient. I just hate the turmoil. :-(

Kerowax
 
Here's another question, my partner had cut off the guy she cheated with online. Now that we're trying to move forward I wanted to know where she stood with him. Am I wrong to be angry that she wants to continue to talk to this guy???

Kerowax- 39f Bi
Partner- 40f poly
 
If my partner cheated on me I would not be okay with them to continue contact. I would feel that my partner wasn't remorseful for their betrayal amd that working on saving our relationship wasn't a priority.
 
Here's another question, my partner had cut off the guy she cheated with online. Now that we're trying to move forward I wanted to know where she stood with him. Am I wrong to be angry that she wants to continue to talk to this guy???

Kerowax- 39f Bi
Partner- 40f poly

I cannot say I would be terribly thrilled or accepting knowing that my partner wanted to maintain contact. You cannot control what she does, but you can certainly express your concerns about her continuing to do so and tell her why you are uncomfortable with it. Part of therapy and healing is full disclosure and transparency. If trust is to be rebuilt, you both have to be honest. You may not feel comfortable talking to her one-on-one, and you might need the therapist to help you find a way to express your feelings without getting angry. If she cares about you and your relationship, she should be willing to at least hear you out. There are people on here who had emotional or sexual affairs and managed to salvage both relationships. Out of those relationships I can think of, I am not sure if the original partners had objections or not.
 
Magdlyn,
So are you and your husband still together? If so, how did he learn to cope with the change?

Well, after fantasizing for a while, 3 months maybe, and after I read The Ethical Slut, which was the only book about poly available in 1999, he suggested we "open our relationship" by looking for a bi woman to share. In my newly rediscovered lust for him and my hopefulness and naivete, I agreed. We found a single woman who said she was into both of us, but turned out she was only into him. She didn't even try to have sex with me. It was a bait and switch. Of course, my husband and I were stupid unicorn hunters, I don't blame her.

But I was supposed to be the poly one! And now... They fell in love, declared they were soulmates, and he told me he wanted to move her in as a sister wife for me, after a month or so of knowing her.

At first he told me I could still look for a woman for myself. But not a man, no no. His gf told him that was unfair (what I said didn't seem to matter, but the word of the new and shiny was gold in those days), so he relented. I was allowed to search for a partner of either gender.

Meanwhile he spent one 3 day weekend a month driving from Boston to Montreal to meet with his new gf. He spent a lot of money on gas and dates, restaurants and other things. I realized I didn't have time or energy or motivation to try and date. Our kids were only about 11, 14 and 16 and I was a devoted mother. One parent gone 3 days a month seemed like enough. Even when he was home, he was kind of checked out because of his NRE. I began to lose my passion for him again.

I am ashamed to say, after about 4 months, I vetoed their relationship, as he had told me before we started, I had the right to do. We both had the right to do. But it didn't work... they were still in love and kept in touch cyberly, meeting once in a while at events. Meanwhile I got so depressed, I could hardly stop crying or get out of bed. Our sex life had been SO good, so loving, I'd felt understood for the first time in 20 years, and what happened? He ended up in NRE for another woman.

I went on Zoloft for a year. We did couples counseling for a year. He went to individual counseling for a year. I went to individual counseling for 3 years.

And I hung in there. When I had vetoed his relationship with new and shiny, he told me he'd never kiss me again, never walk holding my hand, and would stop calling me "hon," only call me by my name. Even though we had agreed to vetoes being OK, he punished me for wielding one. But by about 2006, we managed to have great sex again somehow, and we even went on dates, and weekend trips. I felt unloved however, which I was (no kissing, no terms of endearment), and started flirting with guys online.

All that, and other issues of disconnect, were never resolved. We ended up with different sets of friends, different religions, different bedrooms, different hobbies. We separated in 2008 and divorced in 2011. We'd been together from 1974 til 2008. We were very very young when we met and married. We grew apart.

Happy ending: We're not dead yet! His gf moved in with him, after he moved out of our house and got an apartment in October '08. I met my dear gf in Jan 2009 and we've been together, and happily poly, ever since. I am having the time of my life being true to myself. I have dated many men and have had lots of fun, some actual love, and great sex. And I get deep abiding non-jealous, compersive love and respect for who I really am from my gf.

I don't know if he is happier now, but he seems to be OK. We are co-parents and communicate often.
 
Here's another question, my partner had cut off the guy she cheated with online. Now that we're trying to move forward I wanted to know where she stood with him. Am I wrong to be angry that she wants to continue to talk to this guy???

You feel what you feel. Feelings aren't wrong.

As to what is required to rebuild trust. That depends on the people.

I started a thread on this a while back that you might find interesting: Trust Broken...and Re-Built
 
Re (from Kerowax):
"I don't understand how I can't be jealous when intimacy that I barely get is trying to be shared with others."

Aha ... You see, jealousy is often related not to the "competing" partner, but to the fact that there's something I need that I'm not getting. In the case of the above statement, I gather that you have a need for a certain amount of intimacy and it is not being met (or is "barely" being met, as you put it). So, in that case, you want to focus on asking your partner for more intimacy for yourself. Not saying that problem has an easy solution, but at least then you're focusing more on the root of the problem. Does that make sense?

Re:
"In her defense, she has told me that because she can't be intimate with other that she shuts herself off completely. This in turn makes me feel like she has to go get turned on elsewhere to be intimate with me."

Can you come to an agreement that she will open herself up to you a little and share some (more) intimacy with you, and that in exchange you'll allow her a small bit of (online?) intimacy with someone else? I know it sounds like a business transaction but sometimes you have to work out formal agreements to get through these things.

Some links for dealing with jealousy:

Let us discuss the greeneye monster shall we?
How to slay the greeneyed beastie.

How To Contain The Green Monster
Jealousy, Envy, Insecurity, Etc.
How do you achieve compersion?

The Theory of Jealousy Management
The Practice of Jealousy Management

Jealousy and the Poly Family
Kathy Labriola: Unmasking the Green-Eyed Monster
Brené Brown: the Power of Vulnerability

Can you give polyamory a chance?
 
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