Am I lost? Help?

corarose

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Beloveds, I'm a bit of a mess. A hot, stressed out, super tired, heart-aching mess. I'm going to try and make this the Spark Notes version, but I warn you that brevity is not my strength. (Deep breath) Ok, here goes...

Once upon a time my husband and I made the very loving and supportive decision to open our relationship and become non-monogamous. We had a flipping Google Doc covenant to frame our needs and expectations and our communication skills were astounding. We both had meaningful relationships outside of our marriage which enhanced everything about our marriage. Yes, we were hierarchical, we have kids and neither of us wanted to get more adults involved in their lives in a parenting-ish capacity, so our marriage was somewhat closed when it came to the raising of our family, but our partners outside the marriage were totally cool with this (didn't want kids anyway, as it happened) and so we were all really happy and life was magical.

And then we got hit with awful, and I mean really crappy, issues. I basically had a mental breakdown, my stepson was ill, my grandfather passed, my husband stepped down at work, everything just became really difficult day to day and our very loving partners were supportive of our needs to draw in as husband and wife and just pull together to get through the season of shite which was upon us. It was unpleasant, but everyone understood and was supportive, even though there was hurt.

Well, the aforementioned crappy stuff has passed. My husband and I are good, everyone is healthy, life seems to be tickety-boo. But... I keep feeling like we made the wrong choice in closing ranks. I keep feeling like we've made an awful mistake. Like, our communication is only 65% of what it had been and I fell like we both have misplaced resentment about how things turned out. Neither of us blames anyone for being sick or dying or losing their job or whatever, but that doesn't mean we're not angry and hurt by it all.

And you know what? Now my husband refuses to talk about non-monogamy. It's like he's scared of it. I'm a bit scared as well, I feel like we caused so much hurt and went through so many struggles and what if we're just screwed up? What if despite the fact that we both recall feeling happier and communicating better and feeling more loved by one another, what if we now have too much "yuck" associated with that time to go back to that. What if going back to it isn't right anyway?

Are you listening to me? I'm aware I sound stressed and self-pitying and really, really, really, super pathetic. And yet all of this is buzzing around in my brain and my good friend Anxiety is sure as heck-fire not letting me work through any of it.

So please, pleeeeeeeeeeeease, share your honest thoughts. (And be so kind as to trust that my husband and I had very valid reasons to close ranks and that our partners were loving and supportive of that... some shaming based on other people's ideals of non-monogamy isn't actually helpful for me right now. Thank you, beloveds.)
 
Hi Corarose -

So far as I can tell, you did a fine job of succinctly introducing the nature of your feelings, your recent history and the predicament you're in.

-- breathe. Breathe gently, naturally, steadily.... Easily. Just breathe with breathing awareness, sensing into each breath.

What you are describing, it seems to me, is a near miracle. And great luck, and good partner choosing too. It's not half as bad as it seems, I suspect.

Why?

-- breathe. Breathe gently, naturally, steadily.... Easily. Just breathe with breathing awareness, sensing into each breath.

Why? Because I suspect, from what you have written, that you're surrounded and enveloped by more patience and kindness and love and affection and supportiveness and strength and virtue ... and other good things, than you are imagining -- or were imagining -- as you wrote that.

-- breathe. Breathe gently, naturally, steadily.... Easily. Just breathe with breathing awareness, sensing into each breath.

I think you should count your lucky stars as if you have won the freaking jackpot. (Unless I'm mistaken. I may be. I only have your words, after all. But I think you've got some four star people in your corner.) I think you have at least three aces in your hand. I think yours would be a damn difficult hand to beat. I think now is a rotten time to fold. Or even think for a moment about folding.

-- breathe. Breathe gently, naturally, steadily.... Easily. Just breathe with breathing awareness, sensing into each breath.

Breathing into your heart, trusting the process and the flow ... Consider how incredibly fortunate you are that in all of these difficulties you're surrounded by these amazing -- but fully human -- beings who care for you and want this all to work out for the benefit of all.

Have a look at those aces. Try not to be bothered by the crumpled edges of the cards, the stains on the cards.... Notice that you've got aces. Then act with the warmth and love that I think comes naturally to you. You're going to be great!:)

-- breathe. Breathe gently, naturally, steadily.... Easily. Just breathe with breathing awareness, sensing into each breath.


Edit:

Are you listening to me?

Yeah. So much so that I feel as if I can almost hear what you didn't quite say, exactly, with this very question.

You almost said by asking... "Can anyone hear me?" "Does my voice count?" "Do my wants and needs matter?" ... or something similar, perhaps. I'd encourage you to really sit down quietly and honestly with yourself and listen to that question ... "
Are you listening to me?


Darling, are you listening? Can you hear the sadness and grief and fear in your voice? Can you turn toward that voice with utter warmth and kindness? Maybe not right away, but little by little, maybe? Can you listen with utter compassion to that voice? And tenderness? And kindness and well-wishing?
 
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I'm sorry you struggle.

I am confused. Could you be willing to clarify? I quote just to visually block it off. Blue is mine.

Are you saying...

When bad stuff happened? Husband and I decided to close ranks. That means we broke up with our outside partners. (???) Dealt with the crap stuff.
Now we are past the crap stuff. Husband and I are good, everyone is healthy, life should be tickety-boo.

But it is not. I think we made an awful mistake. We could have agreed on "no dating NEW people, only people who are already here get to be here" and maintained our outside partners through the crisis and adjusted in other ways.

One result of our choice is that husband and I don't communicate as well now as when practicing non-monogamy before. (Or... when not in a grieving period. It might not be from the non-monogamy ending.)

We also have unprocessed feelings about the crap. Neither of us blames anyone for being sick or dying or losing their job or whatever, but that doesn't mean we're not angry and hurt by it all. (<--- what are you doing to process that grief?)

Husband doesn't want to talk about going back to non-monogamy because of leftover unprocessed yuck. I'm a bit scared as well. I think we caused so much hurt and went through so many struggles. Even if we both recall feeling happier and communicating better and feeling more loved by one another back then...
  • What if we're just screwed up?
  • What if we now have too much "yuck" associated with that time to go back to practicing non-monogamy?
  • What if going back to non-monogamy isn't right anyway?

Is that it?

I could be wrong but you sound like you are in a mourning period. Like the "main crisis" is over, but the "aftershocks, repair, and recovery" are still needing to be done. Grieving that these bad things happened, and then grieving/regretting how you chose to handle them in letting the other partners go maybe.

Even if you both did want to return to non-monogamy and try again? This might not be the best time to do that. Could finish healing first.

Galagirl
 
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"And then we got hit with awful, and I mean really crappy, issues. I basically had a mental breakdown, my stepson was ill, my grandfather passed, my husband stepped down at work, everything just became really difficult day to day and our very loving partners were supportive of our needs to draw in as husband and wife and just pull together to get through the season of shite which was upon us. It was unpleasant, but everyone understood and was supportive, even though there was hurt."

That didn't sound like a "breaking up" to me. It sounded like a pause, a break. With an opening to continuation after the troubles have subsided some.

But, of course, I could be entirely wrong about that. Much of what I said relied on my supposing (admittedly, some guessing) that it was a pause or break and not a break up.
 
corarose,

I'm going to move this thread to one of the sections meant for asking and receiving advice and suggestions. Life stories and blogs are meant more for self-reflective blogging about one's life (usually poly focused but can be anything). People can and do give advice, especially if asked for, as you did, in the life stories area but it's not designed for that. Plus once moved, more people may see your post and respond.

You are very welcome to start a blog in the life stories section if that feels good to you. You did nothing wrong. It's a subtle distinction that is not obvious to people newer to the forum.
 
Re (from corarose):
"I keep feeling like we made the wrong choice in closing ranks."

Can I ask, why do you feel like that? You know you needed to focus on each other, right? and the trials you were going through, amiright? So where is this guilty feeling coming from? What are the thoughts that accompany it? If you don't want to answer you don't have to, but maybe it's something to think about.

It sounds like your husband is somewhat shut down in the aftermath of that ordeal. You want nonmonogamy more than he does, but even you have some reservations about it. Is it urgent to open up your relationship again, or can you wait awhile for your communication to somewhat recover? What about the idea of getting some marriage counseling?

I hope as time goes on you can get some more healing.
Hang in there,
Regards,
Kevin T.
 
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