Aquiesced to poly, lost my wife

MrOriginal2

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My wife said she identified as poly a couple years ago and wanted two male partners. She said even when she was a little girl she often thought of having two partners and that that felt very important to her. I was much more monogamously oriented. We had been together for 22 amazing years and were each other's first and only partners and that seemed really special and rare and sacred and pure and I wanted that to stay for our whole lives. I completely doted on her and supported her in everything. I've been supporting her for thirteen years as she tried course after course trying to find a profession that felt right for her, while she also ran the house and managed the money and was a stay at home mom. I payed for her courses and materials by working 6 days a week, took on extra chores, took the kids on weekends to give her time, strategized ways of keeping the kids from interrupting her when she was home alone with them, helped think of business names, proof read stuff, design logos, encouraged her when she was down and told her how smart and capable she was and that I wanted to see her in her element and empowered and to be the best version of herself she could be. I also spoiled her this whole time. I made sure there was always a fresh bouquet of flowers on the table, always something yummy for dessert at the end of the day, wine, carol ann's, gave her almost weekly massages, sent her lovey texts throughout the day, commuted 16 hours a week so that we could live in a rural community that she loved, told her how beautiful and sexy she was, gave her lots of hugs and kisses, always held her hand while driving, always let her pick the music, never fought with her when she yelled at me (often), and rocked in the bedroom. With me being gone until into the evening (because I was working late and commuting) and getting home exhausted and not being particularly chatty (but still taking over chores and kids - my oldest son has since said, when looking over a list of chores, that I did about 60% of them, my MIL who came to stay with us once a month said she thought I did more like 80%) she felt she wasn't getting enough adult social time. So I encouraged her to do something where she could get a bit of adult time and get out of the house for a bit. She joined a women's song circle, pole dance, and a weekly free dance. I would now get home and she often wouldn't be there. I'd heat up my dinner, tidy, wash pots and pans, take out the compost, get kids to bed, feed, water and close up chickens and give the guinea pigs their bedtime snacks and feed the leopard geko, make school lunches, and then make her a hot chocolate to heat up when she got home, put on soft music and lit incense, put the heating pad under the blanket on her side of the bed, and then went to sleep alone, as I'd be up at 6:20am for the next day's commute. I loved feeling like I was being the best possible husband I could be. And the purity of only ever being with each other seemed so beautiful to me. It was increadibly painful that my wife didn't see things the same. There's no compromise on something like that though, one of us could get what they wanted and the other didn't. So I worked to be ok with it. I eventually came to the point where I felt I could be ok or even happy if we developed a closed, co-living triangle rather that a V. I hated the thought of her going off to be with someone else and leaving me alone, but felt it could just be an extension of our relationship if we were all together. I'm not bisexual but felt I could be biromantic and have a loving, romantic relationship with a man that didn't involve sex with each other. She said that was her ideal and seemed really excited. She then went and within a few weeks hooked up with the first guy she found that had a crush on her, who was not particularily comfortable with polyamorism but decided to try to be open minded and give it a try for a bit. However this meant doing exactly what I said I don't want - going off and spending time with another guy and leaving me at home alone. It really hurt that she did that but I tried to be ok with it. I really wanted her to be happy and I never felt like I owned her or had any right to tell her what to do. However, instead of being happy and grateful and loving me for doing that, my wife immediately started being very cold and distanced from me. She didn't want to hear about let alone address some of my insecurities, which immediately amplified them. She seemed really unhappy around me rather than being grateful and thrilled that I was trying to go along with exactly what I said I didn't want and showed no appreciation and displayed no gratitude. She started having sex with him, and only had sex with me once after that, drastically complicating my STI history, as we had only been with each other before that and her new boyfriend had had multiple complicated relationships in the past and yet they had unprotected sex right from the start. She started treating me so badly, I felt our relationship slipping away when it was supposed to make it stronger. I had given my whole heart and soul to her and based all my future dreams on us being together, so I started having my suicidal feelings coming back from my teens. She refused to help me or support me with this, even after I started going to therapy, and when things got critical she had the cops pick me up at work and take me to psychiatric emergency so I couldn't kill myself when she told me over speaker phone that when I got home she and the kids wouldn't be there. She has since started telling people that our relationship was abusive and manipulative. From what I can tell, when she pushed away another kiss or hug, refused to say anything appreciative, didn't do much that was nice for me etc. I would look dejected (just naturally so, not to make her feel bad) and that would make her feel guilty, so she would sometimes accept kisses and hugs and sex that she didn't really want but didn't want to "deal with" me being hurt from yet more rejection. I had no idea that she was doing that. I always thought I was doing things for us and always focused on her pleasure when we made love - always doing it however she wanted and making her climax as much as she wanted, dozens of times sometimes. I was never a "taker". She has also said she now feels like she can finally move forward with a career now that she isn't spending all her energy "managing my emotional needs". She's mostly living with her boyfriend now and is refusing to see or speak to me other than perfunctory texts about the house or kids. When I wrote an email expressing some of my feelings about everything (still being mostly positive and offering to help her in any way I can and saying I still love her as a person and want the best for her - I'd already offered to go to councelling, to support her setting up a lucrative online-business she loved rather than just getting a regular 9-5 cuz she needs to, you know, actually work now, and said I want us to be amicable and able to have dinners and movie nights all together, birthday parties and holiday dinners together etc.), she didn't reply, just called the cops on me and had them come to the house with the kids there and everything to tell me she wants no communication in any way shape or form for any reason and that I need to route all communication through the police crisis councellor. Wow. That escalated quickly. So yeah. That was my experience with polyamory. Incidentally, her boyfriend is 17 years older than her, has never been married or had kids, is not wealthy (makes less money than me), and since she wasn't working we have fewer assets than liabilities, so she'll just walk away from our marriage with a bunch of debt. She is also suddenly OK with having a monogamous relationship with this guy. Her behaviour is pretty inexplicable to everyone around her. Ironically, I actually would be open to trying a closed triangle if I met an amazing couple or something. But this just shows how you really never know how things will go and it really does not matter how much you try or how much you do, things are really never in your control.
 
Yes, if you have the chance, please put in some paragraph breaks.

I'm sorry for your pain; I really am. It sounds like your wife was growing away from you without you even knowing it. This was NEVER a poly relationship. She just hopped from one mono relationship to another.

While there are two sides to every story, and then there is the truth, I don't see how her vindictiveness can be overlooked.

Will this new relationship crash and burn? It may and it may not. The most I can tell you is find your support system and get on with your life, while grieving for your loss. That's all you can do. Please don't get hard and bitter, with the attitude that "nice guys finish last." It's just not true. Should you have looked out for your own needs a bit better? Probably.

Considering how poorly she treated you, if she comes running back to you realizing she has made a terrible mistake, I would think long and hard before even considering taking her back, and only with the caveat that there needs to be counseling before reconciliation.

Be strong for your kids.
 
My wife said she identified as poly a couple years ago and wanted two male partners. She said even when she was a little girl she often thought of having two partners and that that felt very important to her.

I was much more monogamously oriented. We had been together for 22 amazing years and were each other's first and only partners and that seemed really special and rare and sacred and pure and I wanted that to stay for our whole lives.

I completely doted on her and supported her in everything. I've been supporting her for thirteen years as she tried course after course trying to find a profession that felt right for her, while she also ran the house and managed the money and was a stay at home mom. I payed for her courses and materials by working 6 days a week, took on extra chores, took the kids on weekends to give her time, strategized ways of keeping the kids from interrupting her when she was home alone with them, helped think of business names, proof read stuff, design logos, encouraged her when she was down and told her how smart and capable she was and that I wanted to see her in her element and empowered and to be the best version of herself she could be.

I also spoiled her this whole time. I made sure there was always a fresh bouquet of flowers on the table, always something yummy for dessert at the end of the day, wine, carol ann's, gave her almost weekly massages, sent her lovey texts throughout the day, commuted 16 hours a week so that we could live in a rural community that she loved, told her how beautiful and sexy she was, gave her lots of hugs and kisses, always held her hand while driving, always let her pick the music, never fought with her when she yelled at me (often), and rocked in the bedroom.

With me being gone until into the evening (because I was working late and commuting) and getting home exhausted and not being particularly chatty (but still taking over chores and kids - my oldest son has since said, when looking over a list of chores, that I did about 60% of them, my MIL who came to stay with us once a month said she thought I did more like 80%) she felt she wasn't getting enough adult social time. So I encouraged her to do something where she could get a bit of adult time and get out of the house for a bit. She joined a women's song circle, pole dance, and a weekly free dance.

I would now get home and she often wouldn't be there. I'd heat up my dinner, tidy, wash pots and pans, take out the compost, get kids to bed, feed, water and close up chickens and give the guinea pigs their bedtime snacks and feed the leopard geko, make school lunches, and then make her a hot chocolate to heat up when she got home, put on soft music and lit incense, put the heating pad under the blanket on her side of the bed, and then went to sleep alone, as I'd be up at 6:20am for the next day's commute.

I loved feeling like I was being the best possible husband I could be. And the purity of only ever being with each other seemed so beautiful to me. It was increadibly painful that my wife didn't see things the same. There's no compromise on something like that though, one of us could get what they wanted and the other didn't.

So I worked to be ok with it. I eventually came to the point where I felt I could be ok or even happy if we developed a closed, co-living triangle rather that a V. I hated the thought of her going off to be with someone else and leaving me alone, but felt it could just be an extension of our relationship if we were all together. I'm not bisexual but felt I could be biromantic and have a loving, romantic relationship with a man that didn't involve sex with each other. She said that was her ideal and seemed really excited.

She then went and within a few weeks hooked up with the first guy she found that had a crush on her, who was not particularily comfortable with polyamorism but decided to try to be open minded and give it a try for a bit. However this meant doing exactly what I said I don't want - going off and spending time with another guy and leaving me at home alone.

It really hurt that she did that but I tried to be ok with it. I really wanted her to be happy and I never felt like I owned her or had any right to tell her what to do. However, instead of being happy and grateful and loving me for doing that, my wife immediately started being very cold and distanced from me.

She didn't want to hear about let alone address some of my insecurities, which immediately amplified them. She seemed really unhappy around me rather than being grateful and thrilled that I was trying to go along with exactly what I said I didn't want and showed no appreciation and displayed no gratitude. She started having sex with him, and only had sex with me once after that, drastically complicating my STI history, as we had only been with each other before that and her new boyfriend had had multiple complicated relationships in the past and yet they had unprotected sex right from the start.

She started treating me so badly, I felt our relationship slipping away when it was supposed to make it stronger. I had given my whole heart and soul to her and based all my future dreams on us being together, so I started having my suicidal feelings coming back from my teens. She refused to help me or support me with this, even after I started going to therapy, and when things got critical she had the cops pick me up at work and take me to psychiatric emergency so I couldn't kill myself when she told me over speaker phone that when I got home she and the kids wouldn't be there.

She has since started telling people that our relationship was abusive and manipulative. From what I can tell, when she pushed away another kiss or hug, refused to say anything appreciative, didn't do much that was nice for me etc. I would look dejected (just naturally so, not to make her feel bad) and that would make her feel guilty, so she would sometimes accept kisses and hugs and sex that she didn't really want but didn't want to "deal with" me being hurt from yet more rejection.

I had no idea that she was doing that. I always thought I was doing things for us and always focused on her pleasure when we made love - always doing it however she wanted and making her climax as much as she wanted, dozens of times sometimes. I was never a "taker".

She has also said she now feels like she can finally move forward with a career now that she isn't spending all her energy "managing my emotional needs". She's mostly living with her boyfriend now and is refusing to see or speak to me other than perfunctory texts about the house or kids.

When I wrote an email expressing some of my feelings about everything (still being mostly positive and offering to help her in any way I can and saying I still love her as a person and want the best for her - I'd already offered to go to councelling, to support her setting up a lucrative online-business she loved rather than just getting a regular 9-5 cuz she needs to, you know, actually work now, and said I want us to be amicable and able to have dinners and movie nights all together, birthday parties and holiday dinners together etc.), she didn't reply, just called the cops on me and had them come to the house with the kids there and everything to tell me she wants no communication in any way shape or form for any reason and that I need to route all communication through the police crisis councellor.

Wow. That escalated quickly. So yeah. That was my experience with polyamory.

Incidentally, her boyfriend is 17 years older than her, has never been married or had kids, is not wealthy (makes less money than me), and since she wasn't working we have fewer assets than liabilities, so she'll just walk away from our marriage with a bunch of debt. She is also suddenly OK with having a monogamous relationship with this guy. Her behaviour is pretty inexplicable to everyone around her.

Ironically, I actually would be open to trying a closed triangle if I met an amazing couple or something. But this just shows how you really never know how things will go and it really does not matter how much you try or how much you do, things are really never in your control.

I broke this into paragraphs to help the OP out, so more people can read his story.
 
Hello MrOriginal2,

I'm very sorry to hear that this has happened to you, that your wife has broken up with you. I am thinking that maybe she had a mid-life crisis, then experienced strong NRE over her new lover. Not to excuse her, just to shed some light on her inexplicable behavior. NRE can really mess with one's mind. It can convince one to severely neglect one's husband (or other original partner).

You tried hard to be the best husband you could be. This isn't your fault, you must believe me. Get some therapy if you can, you need help in getting through this.

Sympathetically,
Kevin T.
 
MrOriginal2, your wife sounds like she took you for granted, then got bored and moved on to a new relationship in a most irresponsible and cruel manner. If all that you say is true, you apparently have a tendency to bend over backwards to cater to her wishes and all I can say is that while this sucks and probably hurts very bad, I hope you don't get back in a relationship with her if she returns for another shot at the easy life if/when things get hard/crash with the other guy.

That would be plain stupid. You should have said "NO" long ago, but that is past. I hope you keep your own well being in mind going forward.

My general guide for when a partner hurts me badly is to see the intent. I may be devastated, but if it is a mistake, I can still try to get over the hurt and forgive and be with him, but if the hurt to me is deliberate or not corrected in spite of knowing that I am being hurt badly, time to move on. Your wife clearly falls in the latter type.
 
I'm sorry you had to go through all that.

My wife said she identified as poly a couple years ago and wanted two male partners. She said even when she was a little girl she often thought of having two partners and that that felt very important to her.

I was much more monogamously oriented

I really wish this had come up while you guys were dating or were engaged. Rather than after 20 years of marriage.

FWIW, it sounds like you did your best in the marriage. Perhaps TOO much. Because it wasn't balanced sounding and it also sounds like you were being taken for granted while working yourself to the bone.

I started having my suicidal feelings coming back from my teens. She refused to help me or support me with this, even after I started going to therapy, and when things got critical she had the cops pick me up at work and take me to psychiatric emergency so I couldn't kill myself when she told me over speaker phone that when I got home she and the kids wouldn't be there.

I hope you have those feelings under management.

Not to put too fine a point on it... if being in this situation brings you to this dark place? You may have to get ok with not being in this situation and not deal with wife any more expect in a polite, perfunctory, coparent way.

Love her all you want from afar or memory... but not up close any more. Because up close? She hurts you.

There is a point where you have to say "I love you, but not even for you will I keep myself in things that hurt me."

I think you are being hurt here, so I think it is good you both are parting ways so you can stop being hurt.

I hope you feel a bit better for sharing your story. I hope in the days, weeks, and months to come you find healing. I'm so sorry this came about this way. It sounds really awful. :(

Galagirl
 
Oh, heavens, MrOriginal2, but you are so terribly self-blinded. For starters, there's no way that "doing 60% of the chores" (which appears to be a clear underestimation) lines up with the notion of "a stay-at-home mom" who "runs the house."

She was a spoiled BRAT before "poly" ever entered the picture. She has long found it more important to be "a free spirit" than to at ANY point be YOUR PARTNER.

It's likely that she was already screwing New Guy before you were informed.

Unless you are leaving out MUCH detail, the fact she so readily brought in the police means that YOU NEED AN ATTORNEY -- NOW. A proper shark will also consider a civil suit for alienation of affection & go after BOTH of them for cash, but in any case YOU have clear basis to sue for control of the business & it's assets & profits.

Given the debt you're being saddled with AND childcare expense, you really ought to sue them both blind. You certainly ought to sequester ALL current assets that might be considered joint (including credit cards & phone accounts) before she sucks it all dry AND sticks you with even more debt.

There is NO POLYAMORY WHATSOEVER in your tale.

Since "poly" is in the conversation, I hope she looks forward to New Guy announcing that he supports her in her imminent exploration of bisexuality... :rolleyes:
 
Unless you are leaving out MUCH detail, the fact she so readily brought in the police means that YOU NEED AN ATTORNEY -- NOW.

Agree. Not just calling the police but also presenting the relationship as him being abusive and manipulative. Sounds very much like setting the stage for shoving a big knife in his back when it comes to the divorce.
 
I agree that the OP probably needs an attorney but re:

...A proper shark will also consider a civil suit for alienation of affection & go after BOTH of them for cash..

This really depends on where you are - "alienation of affection" is only cause for a civil case in six states: Hawaii, North Carolina, Mississippi, New Mexico, South Dakota, and Utah.
 
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>sigh< Yah, true enough -- one of the scraps of common law that seemed useful. Still, on hearing the term, any attorney would have a good idea what's happened, & there might related remedies. Certainly, ANY tactic that might convince a judge to not automatically take the side of Wifey ought be considered.

In the telling, the children sort of fade in & out, & I'm wondering how attached The Brat actually is to them. She might realize that they're a nuisance (getting in the way of Romance, & possibly displeasing New Guy) BUT getting control of them grants her a steady stream of income. As she's got the "stay-at-home mom" mythos going well, she can play to the image of sacrificing any career ambitions for the sake of the kiddies not to mention that meanie who kept her trapped in the house for so many years. :rolleyes:

I have the feeling that the first to lawyer up is the one who will control the narrative.
 
But this just shows how you really never know how things will go and it really does not matter how much you try or how much you do, things are really never in your control.

I'm sorry you had to learn this lesson this way. I think we've always been conditioned to believe that we are in control of our fate--that if we "do the right things", that if we have enough confidence in ourselves, or if we work hard enough, that good things will happen to us. But too often it doesn't happen, whether it be in love or in anything else in life.

In fact I've almost come to the conclusion that there is almost no relationship between any of those things and success in life. The good people I've known in life have almost universally been hurt by bad people, and while the bad people went along their merry way without repercussions, the good people suffered from the consequences. I can't help in my own life see that my ex, who cheated on me and eventually left me for her boyfriend, didn't have one consequence for doing so...meanwhile as a direct result I had to leave the country I considered home, and my job. It took me a couple years to be able to really get back on my feet.

I could be angry at my ex still. But when I was going through that I was working with a mentor who'd been through a lot of tough times himself. One day he told me, "You're not going to have to live with what she did, but she will." And I suppose that's true. Every time she looks at her life, she's going to have to remember how she got there. But now for me that's close to 20 years in the past and I've long moved on.

So I guess the advice I have for you is that you shouldn't blame yourself for what your wife did. She's the one who has to live with herself. But you don't. So now you can do all those things you felt you couldn't when she was there, and discover who you really are. You might just find you like yourself a lot more now.
 
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