At What Point Does ‘We Used To Be Poly’ Stop Being Consent?

BikerRobbie

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Hello all. Please feel free to move this if there is a more appropriate section for it. I’m posting because I genuinely want perspective from people with lived experience in ENM/poly dynamics, particularly around informed consent, ethics, disclosure, rupture, and whether a relationship can realistically recover once trust around those things has been damaged.

This may contain themes around betrayal, consent violations, emotional harm, and boundary breaches.

I have been in a long-term poly relationship for multiple years. Earlier in the relationship we operated closer to relationship anarchy/poly principles, but over time the relationship became functionally monogamous in practice. We became emotionally and structurally much more like nesting partners. There were no serious outside partners for years, and the relationship gradually evolved into something that, from my perspective, felt emotionally exclusive even if we never formally sat down and labelled it as monogamous.

One thing that may add important context is that we were not living together at the time this occurred. Earlier in the relationship we discovered that having multiple neurodivergent people sharing the same living space was creating strain and conflict that negatively impacted the relationship, so we made the decision to maintain separate homes while remaining emotionally committed partners. I have adult children living with me, while they are child-free, so maintaining separate spaces ended up being healthier and more sustainable for us practically and emotionally. Despite that, I still experienced the relationship as deeply committed, anchored, and functionally monogamous for a number of years. I think this may be part of why we experienced the shift back toward polyamory so differently.

Recently we began discussing reopening the relationship and moving back toward polyamory. The important part for me is that this was still very much in the discussion stage. Boundaries, expectations, emotional safety, sexual health agreements, pacing, and what “being poly again” would actually look like had not yet been fully discussed or agreed upon.

During these conversations I discovered they had already been active on apps before asking me whether I was comfortable reopening the relationship. After I agreed to explore becoming poly again, the response I received was essentially, “That’s good, because I’m already talking to people.” That immediately hit me badly because it felt less like collaborative renegotiation and more like the decision had already been made before my consent was meaningfully obtained.

At the time, I was only informed about one meetup with another person. However, when things finally came to a head, it was disclosed that there had actually been multiple people involved. In a very short period of time things had escalated from “just chatting” to sexual relationships with five different people, while also forming stronger emotional attachments with at least two others. What has deeply shaken me is that all of this appears to have happened before we had fully negotiated what either of us was consenting to, what boundaries existed, or what emotional responsibilities we had toward each other during the transition.

For me, one of the most confronting parts is that there had also been no meaningful discussion around STI testing, sexual health risk, exposure, barrier use, or the implications this potentially placed me under while I still believed we were in the process of discussing and renegotiating what reopening the relationship would actually mean. This is part of why the issue feels larger to me than simply jealousy or discomfort around non-monogamy.

Part of what I am struggling with is that I genuinely do not know whether this is an ethical failure, a communication failure, poly under duress, a mismatch in assumptions, avoidant exit behaviour, or simply two people experiencing the same relationship completely differently.

From their perspective, I think they may genuinely believe we were simply returning to a previously agreed poly dynamic and therefore none of this required significant renegotiation. From my perspective, the relationship had fundamentally changed over the years into something much more emotionally attached, nested, and effectively mono. To me, reopening required intentional discussion, pacing, repair, and mutual consent before people became sexually and emotionally involved.

What complicates this further is that once the reality of what was happening became clear, I requested a pause on seeing new people and asked whether current relationships or connections could at least slow down while we determined whether repair, renegotiation, or separation was the healthiest path forward. That request was not received well, and there seems to be reluctance around being transparent with newer partners about the instability and uncertainty currently existing within the relationship.

This is where I start struggling with the ethics of informed consent. Not because I think anyone owns anyone else, but because I personally would want to know if I was entering a relationship dynamic where an existing long-term partnership was in active rupture, conflict, or possible collapse. To me, informed consent applies not only sexually but emotionally and relationally as well.

At this point I feel caught between believing I am reacting from attachment injury and unspoken assumptions around exclusivity, versus believing a genuine ethical boundary was crossed because meaningful renegotiation and informed consent never really occurred before escalation with others began.

What I am trying to understand from people with actual ENM/poly experience is whether prior poly history automatically carries forward after years of functional monogamy, where the line exists between autonomy and relational responsibility, and whether relationships realistically recover once trust around communication and consent has fractured in this way.

I am not looking to demonise polyamory or paint my partner as a villain. I still believe ENM can be deeply ethical when done with honesty, transparency, and care. I am simply trying to work out whether what I experienced was an understandable but painful mismatch in expectations, or whether the rupture I feel is grounded in something ethically significant.

TL;DR: I’ve been in a long-term relationship that started poly but had become functionally monogamous for several years. Recently we discussed reopening the relationship, but before boundaries, consent, sexual health discussions, or expectations had been fully negotiated, my partner had already been on apps and quickly escalated to sleeping with five people while forming emotional attachments with two others. I was initially only told about one meetup.

There had also been no discussion around STI testing, barrier use, or the level of risk exposure this created for me while I still believed we were in the process of negotiating what reopening actually meant.

From their perspective, they may have believed we were simply returning to an old poly dynamic. From my perspective, the relationship had evolved into something emotionally exclusive and reopening required intentional renegotiation before involving others.

I’m trying to understand whether this sounds like a painful mismatch in assumptions, a communication failure, or an actual breach of trust and informed consent within ENM/poly ethics, and whether relationships realistically recover from this kind of rupture.
 
I think the "different set of assumptions" viewpoint gives you the best chance to repair your relationship, because it is blame free. Drop the shoulds and the big ethical framework questions and focus on your personal experiences and the present situation, otherwise you will be easily caught in a blame loop of "I didn't agree to reopen" vs "I never agreed to close." You're in a situation that's become painful to you, and that needs to be solved.

The discussion about STDs, of course, needs to happen, and until it's resolved, I encourage you to use protection with your partner.

Frankly - before we even start looking down the rabbit hole of analyzing your feelings of betrayal - their sudden change of behavior is so weird that I have to ask what happened in their life to bring on such a strong craving to sleep around after years of functional monogamy? At worst, could this be a manic episode?
 
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Hello BikerRobbie,

Your partner has been playing fast and loose with the negotiations and your theoretical consent. You are not obligated to be okay with that. The fact that your partner didn't tell you what they were up to except by degrees, shows that they realized you might not be consenting, and they wanted to work around that. Certainly they shouldn't have exposed you to STI risk without your knowledge of it. They seem to be unwilling to slow their roll, so now the unfortunate onus is on you to decide whether you consent to their behavior starting right here and now. Basically they are saying, "My way or the highway," even though they have been saying it by degrees.

Sympathetically,
Kevin T.
 
I could be wrong, but it sounds like both of you assumed things instead of actually talking and checking in, and it turned out one assumed one way, and the other assumed the other way.
  • Partner: “We never actually closed, even though nobody was dating other people. I still have my historical poly autonomy.”
  • You: “We are not actually open yet; we are renegotiating from a now-monogamous baseline.”
Here, while both contributed to assumptions, I think the one escalating sexual/romantic activity during that "weird time of unclear" has the obligation to slow down, because their behaviors are increasing increasing emotional and physical risk. They could at least slow down long enough to establish NEW agreements, if this is going to continue.

In a very short period of time, things had escalated from “just chatting” to sexual relationships with five different people, while also forming stronger emotional attachments with at least two others.

Is them poly dating again/having new lovers a dealbreaker for you?

Did your partner share bare sex with any of these folks and then share bare sex with you without informing you? Is that a dealbreaker for you?

Even if you used to be ok with it in the past, are you ok with their dating style today? Or have you two become incompatible for poly dating over time?

Whether or not this can still be mended depends on whether or not your dealbreakers were hit.

I am not looking to demonise polyamory or paint my partner as a villain. I still believe ENM can be deeply ethical when done with honesty, transparency, and care. I am simply trying to work out whether what I experienced was an understandable but painful mismatch in expectations, or whether the rupture I feel is grounded in something ethically significant.

Well... rather than "is it this or that" are you bumping into "both this AND that?"-- like it was BOTH a painful mismatch in expectations AND the rupture you feel is grounded in something ethically significant.

You are the one actually there. You have to figure out where your limit of tolerance lies.

Galagirl
 
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Just as background, my mind is going to a place of to wanting to paint a picture of your homelife and your partner's homelife, your ages, genders, hormonal state (menopause, for example), emotional maturity, social life, neuro status (like, are you on the autism spectrum and is your partner more neuro-typical?), and what kind of social interactions you both prefer. Maybe your partner is highly extroverted and has realized that talking to (texting) a good 6-8 people (potential dating or sex partners) daily/weekly is really rewarding to them. Maybe they love to flirt. Maybe they have a strong sex drive. Maybe it has increased lately and is motivating them. Lots of people can experience a waxing and waning of their sex drives for various reasons.

Also, are we to understand that you may be autistic, and at least two of your adult children are autistic? Is your partner also autistic? This can affect your social interactions, as I understand, missing cues of facial expressions and body language, for example.

Did you and Partner attempt to live together for a while, realize it wasn't working, and decide to maintain separate residences?

It's unfortunate that you seemed to think you had an unspoken agreement to be monogamous presently, while Partner has been assuming ENM is firmly in place. I guess you're telling us you know for sure, 100%, that your partner was not talking to others, dating them, or just having casual sex with them, for a number of years, but now they are. And all this time, except at the beginning of the relationship, you yourself were content to be mono, didn't have much energy for seeing others, didn't have sexual energy for anyone but Partner. Maybe the demands of being a parent took up much of your extra emotional and physical energy (your "spoons").

How long have you been together with Partner? You just say "multiple years." How many years were you open? How many years were you assuming you were closed? How many months or years has Partner become emotionally and sexually involved with others, not just one or two others, but like, seven or eight?

There really seems to be a disconnect here. That must feel terrible!

Either you were being purposely or accidentally blind to the signs that Partner was dating around, or they (Partner) were being intentionally vague with you about the ramping up of their social/dating or casual sex life with others.

It can feel very frustrating when one partner is all-- "Oh, we were open the whole time. I didn't want to upset you, or bother you with TMI about my other new dating or sex partners, so I was just being discreet, because... [insert excuse here]."

And you're all-- "What?? As far as I knew, we've been mono for X years. It almost feels like you've been living this secret life for quite a while now. There is a difference between being discreet about TMI and lying by omission. Not to mention, even if you're using condoms with your others, my sexual health has been compromised. All this makes me feel distant from you, kind of betrayed, unsafe. Where are we now?"

This can feel awful, especially if your Partner is being all, "La-di-dah, we're poly, so of course I'm talking to and fucking others. What did you expect?"

I don't know how you want to proceed, or how much work Partner is willing to do to repair things. Whether this can be repaired is your question. It's hard to say. Lots of talking is necessary, that's for sure. And we often recommend that no new partners are taken on in situations like this. And if Partner is honest with all their other partners about how their "primary" was not aware of their new dating status, those other partners themselves might want to take a step back, assuming they want ethical non-monogamy too.

It's off-putting to suddenly find out that one's partner has been filling pretty much all their free time with chatting up others, setting up dates, forming emotional bonds, and having sex. It takes hours and hours a day to keep up this kind of pace. And you were unaware. You may be thinking, "Who even are you?" You might be feeling sad, mad, hurt, insecure, affronted, lonely, and even a little disgusted. You probably want to feel heard, understood, and reassured of your status and importance in Partner's life.
 
Firstly, thank you for such a thoughtful and detailed response. A lot of what you said genuinely resonated with me, especially around attachment injury, psychological safety, and the disconnect that can happen when two people believe they are operating under the same understanding but actually aren’t.

To answer some of the questions and add a bit more context, yes, we are both very neurodivergent and very much “neuro spicy” AuDHD humans. Communication, assumptions, emotional processing, and even how we interpret silence or requests for information can become far more complicated than either of us sometimes realises in the moment.

We had explored returning to some form of ENM/poly dynamic after effectively living functionally mono for years due to life circumstances, trauma, burnout, health issues, parenting pressures, and honestly losing a lot of the spark and erotic connection in our relationship.

What I was not fully aware of was the extent to which active conversations, flirting, organising hookups, and emotional connections had already begun occurring. To add complexity to this, we actually did have a conversation around this at the time, and I believed I had been fairly explicit about the kinds of communication and transparency I still needed in order to feel emotionally safe moving into that space again.

From their perspective, they primarily heard “I don’t want details,” and interpreted that as meaning I did not want to know much unless something became directly relevant. This is still one of the sticking points we are actively trying to work through now, especially as additional context and details continue to emerge through ongoing conversations.

I genuinely believe this was more a catastrophic communication breakdown between two neurodivergent people carrying trauma, avoidance, burnout, and very different assumptions, rather than intentional deception. But at the same time, the emotional impact and rupture in trust and psychological safety for me was still very real.

That still does not excuse the fact that we had pre-existing agreements around safety and communication from earlier periods of openness. Things like names, general whereabouts, safety check-ins, and letting each other know when someone arrived home safely had always previously existed. In hindsight, I think a combination of assumptions, avoidance, fear of difficult conversations, NRE, and both of us emotionally shutting down in different ways created a perfect storm of miscommunication.

I want to be very clear that I now do not believe my partner acted from malice or intentional cruelty. But at the same time, the emotional rupture and loss of psychological safety I experienced was and is still very real. My nervous system reacted very strongly to the sudden awareness of how disconnected our realities had become. It wasn’t only about sex or polyamory itself. It was the feeling that while we were both drowning emotionally after multiple major life events, we had unintentionally stopped emotionally tracking each other properly.

You were also correct in identifying that we had attempted living together for a period before recognising that multiple neurodivergent adults, parenting demands, burnout, and emotional overload were making cohabitation very difficult on the relationship. We currently maintain separate spaces, and in many ways that had improved some areas of our connection before all of this surfaced.

Since everything came to light, we have had some very raw, honest, and painful conversations. Importantly, we are now both approaching this with much more openness and accountability. We have both apologised sincerely to each other for our parts in how this unfolded. I fully acknowledge there were places where I withdrew, became avoidant, stopped communicating my emotional needs properly, and made assumptions instead of seeking clarity.

At the same time, my partner has acknowledged that existing agreements and safety expectations were not maintained in the way they should have been, even if the intent was discretion rather than deception.

Right now, we are trying to slow things down and create enough emotional stability to repair trust and emotional safety rather than continue escalating chaos. They have agreed to pause casual encounters and focus only on maintaining an existing emotionally significant connection while we work through this together. We are both also engaging with separate therapists, with the intention of eventually moving into couples therapy once the immediate emotional flooding settles a bit.

What has become very clear to me through all of this is that compersion and emotional injury can both exist simultaneously. I can genuinely feel happiness for parts of their experiences while also recognising that my attachment system and sense of emotional safety were deeply shaken by how all of this unfolded.

I don’t think either of us fully understood how much unresolved trauma, burnout, shame, disconnection, and attachment fear we were both carrying into this situation until it exploded into the open.

Again, thank you for your response. A lot of it gave me language for things I have been struggling to articulate clearly even to myself.
 
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