Call for Help: Triad Opening Up

AViolentDelight

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Hello everyone, I need your wise words and good advice.

I'm in a poly triad and have been for the last year and a half. I'm with a m/f married couple who had been poly for about a year or two before they found me.

I'm 23 years old, He is 28 and She is 25. I started seeing Him casually through the BDSM scene, we started developing a close bond and I started to get to know Her too and we all started dating. About two months later I moved in with them. As some background info, this is my first ever relationship, poly or otherwise.

Anyway, things have been going mostly well, we became a triad, I've been accepted as a mostly primary partner to them both. We sleep in the same bed together and He has even told his family about me which has almost destroyed His relationship with them.

We've had our problems; I have trust issues and he resents that because he sees himself as fully trustworthy and having done nothing to destroy my trust, which is true, he is trustworthy but like I said, I have trust issues and don't know how to work through it.

Things were mostly good until a couple of months ago. She has always had other partners but He hasn't had other partners and we'd got to a point where I thought He would only have his wife and I. I was happy with that.

Then a couple of months ago he found a woman, lets call her D, he wanted to be his Mistress (in a BDSM sense) and because I couldn't offer that to him I told him he should pursue her.

This has developed much further than just a D/s (for those who don't know, dominant/submissive) relationship and about a month and a half in of them seeing each other he told me he considered D his girlfriend.

He told me this and then asked me if that was OK, I didn't know what to say and felt like I should just accept it.

Throughout this period of time D was staying with us almost every weekend (she lives a few hours away and comes up to Auckland on a regular basis so her 3 year old can spend weekends with her dad). They text all the time in the weeks between.

I had a couple of rules; no sex and he can't spend the whole night with her.

A couple of weeks ago He and I had yet another fight about trust (as we do on a semi regular basis) and to prove to him that I trust him I said that He and D could now have sex and could spend one night every weekend she stays sleeping in the same bed. They were both very thankful and very happy.

D is lovely by the way, very respectful and kind. I like her a lot.

Then a few days after this He told me that he loved D, that he had told her this and that it had happened about a week ago. For a week, he did not tell me that he loved her. He didn't tell me because he was scared as to how I would react.

For about 20 minutes I cried and got upset and then I calmed down and processed it. After doing so he told me he was proud of how well I did processing it. I asked him to promise me that from now on he will tell me things, he refuses to promise that and says he doesn't trust me to react well so he won't.

In the last week I've been a mess. I've been sick, unable to sleep, unable to eat. The jealousy is bad. He snapchats, texts, and messages D every day, the first thing he does when he wakes up is text her good morning, I struggle to engage his attention because he's on the phone all the time and when I ask him to put it down he gets annoyed at me and says he can focus on two things at once and don't I trust him... everything is about me not trusting him.

I feel on edge all the time, I ask him for reassurance constantly and he's quite frankly sick of reassuring me, once again, he says I should be trusting him. But I feel like this has all spun out of control faster than I can keep up with, process, or even have a choice in.

I get anxious before she turns up for the weekend and then I get anxious before she leaves, because when she's here at least he's not on his phone all the time and doesn't mind assuring my worries.

Late last week I logged into his computer to use it for work, went to Facebook to log in myself and of course, he was logged in. A chat was open to D. I'm a very fast reader and before I realized what I had done, as I was moving my mouse to log out, I saw the last part of their recent conversation.

She asked him if he'd ever fallen in love so quickly and intensely before and he replied, saying, "No, not with my wife or gf." (he used names of course).

I rang him immediately, first to let him know what I had done and apologize, and second to freak out. He didn't say much and I told him I needed to process all of this. He told me D didn't have to stay the weekend.

When MY Girlfriend came home she told me that she had talked to D and that she should be able to stay the weekend and basically made me feel very silly for having a freak out.

I told her I was still processing.

By the end of the day I had processed as much as I could, told D she could stay again, and got ripped into by my BF for looking at his chat.

My anxiety and jealousy has been up and down since.

I don't know how to handle any of this anymore, it feels like I've been thrown in the deep end and I can't swim anymore. I'm emotionally exhausted. I don't want to ask him to leave her, part of me is scared he'd rather have her anyway, because D is such a good support for him, I'm not always the happiest person to be around and struggle with emotional problems a lot. D is happy and looks after him.

I'm at the end of my tether and don't know how to process everything, deal with jealousy, learn to trust, and be a good girlfriend.

Can anyone help me?
 
I am so sorry you are going through this.

There is trust, and then there is trustworthy behavior. You're young, this is your first r'ship ever! And you've involved with an established couple, and this couple is poly, and your bf has a new gf, and he is in NRE (new r'ship energy makes one crazy! ) and he won't negotiate boundaries around texting.

You need to read. Read around here. Read links on NRE and jealousy for polyamory.

Go to morethantwo.com. Go to Practical Polyamory. Read up. Polyamory is kind of an advanced and complicated kind of love style. You might've gotten in too deep too soon.

Sounds like your bf is being a Dom-ass, if you ask me. He is neglecting you and your needs, forgetting you exist while pursuing his new Mistress/lover with all his might. It's not cute, and it's rude!
 
Love is what polyamory is all about. Love is the glue that connects us to other humans and enriches our lives. Why be stingy with it? Why so threatened? Your task is to look at your fears and state of upset over this, and realize it is not coming from a logical place. It is just societal conditioning. Try to reframe your mindset into something more like: How wonderful it is that the man you love is surrounded by others who love him.

Doesn't he deserve love from whatever direction he finds it?
 
Love is what polyamory is all about. Love is the glue that connects us to other humans and enriches our lives. Why be stingy with it? Why so threatened? Your task is to look at your fears and state of upset over this, and realize it is not coming from a logical place. It is just societal conditioning. Try to reframe your mindset into something more like: How wonderful it is that the man you love is surrounded by others who love him.

Doesn't he deserve love from whatever direction he finds it?

Cindie, that is so simplistic. It's easy to love. Not so easy to act lovingly. And I have to question if her bf even loves her at this point. Bah!
 
I am sorry that you struggle.

"Trust" is not like a rock that you just fork over. It is more like a plant -- that you tend to and grow. You take a small risk, have a good experience with a person. So next time you risk a bit more. You grow trust with them. You don't give your car keys to a person you just met right? But you might loan your car to a good friend you have known for years. A new friend of a few weeks? You might trust with a DVD, cuz that's easy to replace. But not your CAR. Not yet. And that is OK -- one grows trust at different paces with different people.

It's the same with your heart. You are new to this. First relationship ever. It is ok to not trust him fully yet -- it is a very new relationships still! NRE lasts 6 mos - 2 years. At 1.5 years into this -- maybe you are starting to see him without the rosy glasses. It's getting REAL -- his real character, his real habits. Not his "best dating manners" any more. This is where you find out if the relationship has what it takes or not to go longer. (I think you maybe moved in too soon -- dating them only a little bit and moving in 2 mos later? That's fast to me. )

Since you are also new to polyshipping -- maybe you don't know there are some people who are NRE junkies? I'm not saying he is -- but another thing to think about. If the NRE is fading between you and him, he might be seeking a new NRE hit in the new relationship if he's that type.

The jealousy is bad. He snapchats, texts, and messages D every day, the first thing he does when he wakes up is text her good morning, I struggle to engage his attention because he's on the phone all the time and when I ask him to put it down he gets annoyed at me and says he can focus on two things at once and don't I trust him... everything is about me not trusting him.

This behavior sounds intrusive in your home life. You would like him to be PRESENT when he is with you. That is not unreasonable to want. He could manage his time better so he can give each partner some attention and meet some of their attention needs.

I don't know what to tell you. It sounds like polyhell to me -- intrusion at minimum.

It is understandable he needs some time to form and have this new relationship in. But if he's spreading himself SO thin and not meeting his existing partners attention needs and tending to those relationships too? I'm not sure how sustainable that is.

He does behaviors you would like him to change. When you ask if he's willing to not be on the phone with her when with you, he could not say "I am not willing to do that at this time. I am trying on morning calls for X, afternoons for wife, and evenings for you. Could you be willing to let me try that on for a week?" straight up? Then at least you know straight up he's not willing to meet your attention need at that time. He's owning it rather than turning it around on you. But you are reassured your time is coming too. If it doesn't work out , swap up the time schedules and find what does work. You are in the loop -- you know you aren't being forgotten.

I don't think you are upset he spends time tending to (his + her) relationship. I think you are upset (you and his) relationship is being neglected an you aren't included in what's going on in terms of calendar so you can feel more calm and know what to expect during times of change.

This turning it around to be how you do not "trust him" -- that's the flipparoo. DISOWNING that he is part of the (you + him) relationship and that takes both tending to it for it to stay healthy. Making it be about your personhood, your character, your fssues rather than owning his neglectful behavior -- that's not kind. That is another ding.

So change upheaval (ding one), neglect (ding two), and disowning/minimizing when you share your concerns (ding three.) I can see why that would bug you.

If he's in the habit of flipping any couple issues on you to be YOUR individual issue -- it's not especially loving behavior either.

I don't know if you want to

a) wait and see if the NRE dies down over time and he gets back to a more normal state
b) can't deal with the NRE and ask him to modulate his behaviors in the home, make suggestions for better time management that DO work for you since he can't seem to come up with a time management pattern on his own
c) can't deal with the NRE and prefer to move out and date him from there so you don't have to deal with his daily wackies up close and personal like when cohabitating. You have time and space where you get away from that.
e) something else I cannot think of right now

Love is a wonderful thing, but annoying behaviors are not.

Galagirl
 
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Hi AViolentDelight,

It seems to me that you are concerned about your trust issues (Can you tell me where those originated?), while the real issue is that your boyfriend is not exhibiting trustworthy behavior. He seems to me to be all caught up in NRE and not wanting to be bothered by your wants and needs.

Re (from OP):
"I struggle to engage his attention because he's on the phone all the time and when I ask him to put it down he gets annoyed at me and says he can focus on two things at once ..."

That's crap. It's inconsiderate of him to give you that kind of divided attention. He should be willing to be 100% present for you, for a fair portion of his time.

Unfortunately you can't make his choices for him, so you'll have to decide what your own course of action will be based on how he's acting and what you anticipate in the future. Do you think he'll be more manageable after the NRE wears off? Do you want to wait that long?

I hope things improve for you soon.
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
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