Communication w/outside partner while in person time w/Hinge

WestCoastRedhead

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Hello gang!

I'm curious about what most of you do or see around communication (texting, video and/or phone calls) when your partner is with their other partner(s). Do you keep it minimal? Do you communicate at all? Can it vary?

Have you asked for minimal to no communication from outside partners when you are having focussed time with your sweetie?

Is it a reasonable boundary/ask to say "no phone calls from the other while we are having our time together, unless really important, or away from them for a long period?"

What are your experiences and have you had a hinge who refused to accommodate a request for minimal or no communication while during your in person time?

Thoughts?
Thanks :)
 
Hi WestCoastRedhead,

When my partner is with their other partner (my metamour), I would keep texts and such down to a minimum. Like, only texting when there's an emergency. That's kind of a moot point with me, as texting is not my jam. And phone calls from me are very rare. I do exchange messages on Facebook, but I seldom initiate the conversations. Now if we're not just talking about what I would do, it has been pointed out in other threads that it should be okay to text one's partner, just don't expect said partner to reply while they're with their other partner.

Just some thoughts,
Kevin T.
 
Hi WestCoastRedhead,

When my partner is with their other partner (my metamour), I would keep texts and such down to a minimum. Like, only texting when there's an emergency. That's kind of a moot point with me, as texting is not my jam. And phone calls from me are very rare. I do exchange messages on Facebook, but I seldom initiate the conversations. Now if we're not just talking about what I would do, it has been pointed out in other threads that it should be okay to text one's partner, just don't expect said partner to reply while they're with their other partner.

Just some thoughts,
Kevin T.
Yes, I have seen that. I guess maybe it's more about phone calls - if the meta is asking for a phone call or two during my in-person time (4-6 days with my long distance partner), is that normal? I'm totally fine with not needing/asking for any phone calls, and am now totally fine with barely or even texting at all. I'm happy to let my guy have his time (1-4 days, now that they are not long distance but can see each other more easily in person) with my meta. My request is to have him have his focussed time with me, without outside asks like calls, unless really important, and to leave them be when he is having focussed time with her. I expressed this wish, and he got grumpy with me. I'm trying to understand is this an unreasonable ask, as I don't know what is common in situations like this. I'm guessing it may vary.
 
It's certainly common for one's metamour to call (or want to call) one's partner while one is with one's partner, even if one's time with one's partner is limited (such as in the case of a long-distance partner). I think it's rude for the metamour to call in that case, but maybe my opinion doesn't count. I think texting should be sufficient.

You'll get quite a range of opinions on this subject. Some people think it's fine to text/call, some people think it's not fine. Personally I lean toward the don't-call camp, but there are plenty of people who would disagree with me.
 
It's certainly common for one's metamour to call (or want to call) one's partner while one is with one's partner, even if one's time with one's partner is limited (such as in the case of a long-distance partner). I think it's rude for the metamour to call in that case, but maybe my opinion doesn't count. I think texting should be sufficient.
I find it can be intrusive. They can speak before he leaves, and speak again when he heads home. I don't mind the texting, as long as it's not several in large chunks.
You'll get quite a range of opinions on this subject. Some people think it's fine to text/call, some people think it's not fine. Personally I lean toward the don't-call camp, but there are plenty of people who would disagree with me.
Yes, and this why I ask - I am curious as to the various opinions and experiences.
 
I'm curious about what most of you do or see around communication (texting, video and/or phone calls) when your partner is with their other partner(s). Do you keep it minimal? Do you communicate at all? Can it vary?

There is so much "it depends" in here I'm struggling for where to begin. I currently live with my husband. Of course I text/call/video other people when I'm "with" him as I'm not going to be held to ransom by him being home even if we're doing different things. I used to text Mike good morning/night every day, while I was lying in bed next to Adam (now we have our own rooms, and it's been a long time since Mike and I communicated every day). The exception is if we're on a date night/weekend getaway, then I let Puck (or previously, Mike) know I'm not available except for emergencies. We haven't been on a longer holiday, but I'd cross that bridge when we get to it. I'd definitely communicate with Puck though, even if it's "on my own time" like when I'm having a shower.

If anyone else texts me when I'm away for a weekend with Adam, I tend to check my phone now and then and reply when convenient and usually with a "I'll be able to chat from such-and-such a day when I'm back in my normal routine." I had a bf back in 2017 who often blew up my phone when I wasn't with him. I wasn't living with either him or Adam at the time so I'd do weekend about visiting them. He'd get a bit huffy if I was on my phone when I was with him yet always intruded on my weekend at home by blowing up my phone. It was one of the things that led me to leave him.

It took a while, but I came to realise that when Puck used to go away with Iris, he'd be totally off the radar for that length of time, be it 1 day or 3 weeks. I asked him about it once and he admitted it was probably more of an unspoken rule, and I'm guessing she'd conditioned that rather than ever made it explicit. They'd been together 10 years when I met him.

Have you asked for minimal to no communication from outside partners when you are having focused time with your sweetie?

I don't ask each partner for minimal communication time, I tell them I won't be available for anything other than short texts at my convenience, unless it's an emergency. This is my boundary, it's an I statement, and I also choose whether to keep my boundary or not understanding that if I don't, I'll be giving mixed messages that will probably bite me in the arse somewhere down the track.

Murphy's Law, when I went to visit Puck last January (different continent), there was an emergency (Dad had a stroke) so I spent time calling not just Adam, but my Mum and my Aunt throughout the week when the time zone was favourable. Adam texted me first to ask for that first video call to tell me the news. He'd said, "it's important" but I honestly thought he was going to say that the washing machine had flooded the laundry and he needed to check the insurance details (it was threatening before I left). It hadn't.

As for asking my partner to have minimal to no communication from outside partners during our time, the way we live our relationships that's not necessarily practical. Adam isn't dating right now, so it's a non-issue on his side for partners, but he still has friends and relatives that he calls, but of course not when we are on a date or weekend away. This is how we respect each other.

When I went to visit Puck, I was there for just over a week and it was in the holiday season (January) and he popped home to see Renee and a friend who came to visit them. Once for gift exchange with said friend, which I understood. But Renee also didn't want to meet me at all and seemed to be very needy. She asked him to visit her/do things for her a few more times. On my last afternoon there, she asked him to pick up something from the store. Ridiculous request, and it was a no from him then but it was a yes the rest of the time, and that's on him. We've also had issues before when she's wanted to talk with him while we are on our "date calls" - a longer call we have most weeks that could also be intimate. He had to remind her that his office door being closed means "do not disturb" not "please knock" and she's been better about that this year.

He also went to see Charli for a couple of hours one afternoon during my time there because she was having a meltdown. And she had another meltdown the last morning before my flight home, so I think they spoke, certainly texted, and I was a bit salty she couldn't just put a lid on it for another 24 hours when he would have been completely available. Iris left him alone the entire time. Selene, I met as we all went out for a drink for about 90 mins. Renee was...honestly, weird. But not my circus.

When Puck comes to visit me here, I imagine he'll make some calls home to Renee. Iris is no longer his partner, but she wouldn't have wanted to hear from him anyway. At least she doesn't have double standards about communication when on holiday. Apparently Charli has been doing therapy and is a lot more chill now, so hopefully any calls they have will be her being curious about his experience of NZ, not freaking out about relationship fears. Selene would be chill no matter what.

Is it a reasonable boundary/ask to say "no phone calls from the other while we are having our time together, unless really important, or away from them for a long period?"
That's not a boundary, that's a rule. You're imposing your will onto someone else. Sometimes, that rule is okay if the time together is short. Dinner, movie, sleepover, whatever. But I get you're fishing for if it's okay for you to claim tit for tat and that your meta be banned from communicating with your hinge partner when you and he go on holiday next year, possibly on the grounds that you went radio silent on him after a while while they were away. You could try asking, but remember, only ask questions you can handle a "no" for, or else expect that they will communicate somewhat. You could negotiate with him that he only have phone calls with her when you've made a plan to be doing something else by yourself.

Let me explain. The first time Puck popped home to Renee was about 22 hours after I'd got the news about Dad. He was only heading home for about an hour, so I stayed at our accommodation. By the time he got back, I was all up in my fears and feels about Dad and it wasn't healthy for me. But of course I didn't ban him from leaving me again for the rest of the week. The next day, Charli was so up in her fears and feels about polyamory, he said he really needed a couple of hours to visit her. So we made a plan so that I wouldn't be sitting at home stewing about Dad. Puck dropped me at a strip mall and I went shopping. It kept me distracted, was on my to-do list anyway and that way I could meander, and he texted me when he was ready to collect me a couple of hours later. We grabbed some ingredients for dinner while we were there and carried on with our evening. Charli was calmer, and I hadn't gone into a tail-spin about Dad. Win-win.

What are your experiences and have you had a hinge who refused to accommodate a request for minimal or no communication while during your in person time?
As mentioned above, I didn't have a hinge who did this, but I had a bf who did this when I was a hinge. He's an ex. He was an ex quite quickly in the grand scheme of things.

Before Puck even arrives here, and definitely before I go back, we'll be having more discussions about expected level of communication outside of us. I am reluctant to visit his hometown again as it seems too easy for him to respond to Renee's every beck and call. So I'll probably negotiate that we stay elsewhere, like a different state ;). I also won't visit at the very beginning of January again (which is a pity since that's perfect for my work holidays, but it's obviously not good for them after being away for Xmas with her parents). And I suspect when he's here (hopefully this April), Renee will leave him alone more anyway -- it's not like she can ask him to go pick up xyz for her lol. He could likely talk with Charli for a while on the evening(s) that would normally be their overnight date while I go out for groceries or something (time zones will be pretty good for that). Selene would probably be content with photos and texts, and maybe a call but she's apparently not a video call person at all. In short, we will work with the personalities and needs in the polycule.
 
I call my partners or text them whenever I want. They do the same to me. If it's not convenient to answer a call or text, we return it when it is convenient.
Is it a reasonable boundary/ask to say "no phone calls from the other while we are having our time together, unless really important, or away from them for a long period?"
This wouldn't be reasonable for me. It's the kind of thing instilled when you're not on the same page in your relationship and there is conflict between members of the polycule. If a partner said this to me, I'd be thinking that everything is much worse than I imagined and that I needed to reevaluate if these relationships were still tenable.

My advice to you is not to push this, because I think you'll find yourself with the much shorter straw. The reality is that when you are polyamorous, your partner has other partners, and most people check in with their partners every day. Your partner has a long-term relationship of a decade. There is absolutely no way I'd have someone tell me when and how I can speak to my long-term partner.

If I felt like I had a partner who neglected me for other people, I'd break up with them.
 
I have a boundary, as well. Quality time with my partners means we don’t answer phones or texts unless it is an emergency. I let my partners know when I’ll be with whom so they know I won’t be answering, and when they can expect me to reply or talk to me again.

I dislike it very much when my quality time is interrupted by any partners on either side. All of my partners receive the same quality time from me. Those who had issues with this quickly got used to it.

I think there’s just programming (my guess is, it’s left over from monogamous programming) that tells you that you should communicate daily, or respond right away, or that means something is wrong. I have no issue with this, but it might be at a time that’s not convenient for anyone, so it might not happen. It’s an insecurity that should be worked on. Nobody had this insecurity before cell phones and answering machines. There was no instant gratification. There were so many reasons we didn’t answer the phone attached to our kitchen wall. 😂😂

If someone needs to communicate while you are with another partner (outside of a true emergency), they should take a long look at why they need that. Is is a control thing? Insecurity thing? Do they want to show their meta that they are important too, or even that they exist, or are more important? After all, they are interrupting their meta's time for their own selfish needs. They are taking your focus away from the partner you are with (1) to put it on them (2) during partner (1) time.

If I have more that 24 hours with a partner, then we do have phone time set aside each day to check in with other partners, but for anything less than 24 hours, they can wait until I’m done.

With my nesting partner, we have designated quality time and the same rules apply to that time. Outside of that, I can chat any time.

Also, they can text any time. I put my phone on do not disturb. If it’s an emergency, they need to call repeatedly to override dnd. That means I’m never checking my phone. I’ll know if it’s an emergency.
 
What are your experiences and have you had a hinge who refused to accommodate a request for minimal or no communication while during your in person time?
They can refuse all they want. I put on dnd so I won’t hear them blowing up my phone. If it’s a true emergency then they can get through with a call. If they use that and it’s not a true emergency I would seriously reconsider that relationship, especially if there are repeated violations. I’ve had too many unhealthy relationships that I have little tolerance for them now.

people need to get therapy and work on their shit. I’m not a therapist and it’s not my job to be in an unhealthy codependent relationship that messes with my own well being.
 
I should add that I don't have a problem with the calling/texting if it's something on which all three people are okay with and agree. Like polyamory itself, everything depends on mutual consent. For some people, the calling/texting works for them, and is no big deal. I have no problem with that. WestCoastRedhead, the difficulty I see in your situation is that you, your partner, and your metamour disagree about whether calling should take place, and what works for you is not what works for them. I assume they wouldn't mind if you called during their time together -- or would they?
 
Yes, and this why I ask - I am curious as to the various opinions and experiences.

I don't ask each partner for minimal communication time, I tell them I won't be available for anything other than short texts at my convenience, unless it's an emergency. This is my boundary, it's an I statement, and I also choose whether to keep my boundary or not understanding that if I don't, I'll be giving mixed messages that will probably bite me in the arse somewhere down the track.
Yes, and this is a boundary "power" I am seeing that hinges have the advantage of. I'm on one arm of the V, and am feeling like I have very little "say" on the intrusiveness of the other partner, especially when she is needy. (And he is not saying "no" to that, which I think is a larger issue.) What "say" to the arms of the V have? So far, the only say I see that I can have is asking him to make me the priority when in person. How that looks is what likely needs more negotiation, and I think that's the next step.
That's not a boundary, that's a rule. You're imposing your will onto someone else. Sometimes, that rule is okay if the time together is short. Dinner, movie, sleepover, whatever. But I get you're fishing for if it's okay for you to claim tit for tat and that your meta be banned from communicating with your hinge partner when you and he go on holiday next year, possibly on the grounds that you went radio silent on him after a while while they were away. You could try asking, but remember, only ask questions you can handle a "no" for, or else expect that they will communicate somewhat. You could negotiate with him that he only have phone calls with her when you've made a plan to be doing something else by yourself.
Yes, and that's what I was worried about, making it a rule, or a boundary that he can only say yes or no to. I do want there to be room for brainstorming and negotiation, and I think we will have that next weekend during our next in-person time.

Oh, I should clarify, I am not seeking to have my meta "banned" from communicating while Pisces and I are away on our trip next spring. Not at all. A long stretch like that is fine for having a few calls. Really, it's the shorter times, like our usual in-person time, which is 3-6 days. More than 5 days, one call seems reasonable. I guess I'm hoping for the most minimal communication, as I consider our in-person time precious.

I admit, I am still feeling wary/jaded with the most recent blowup from my meta, where her meltdown happened the day before Pisces was to come visit me, delaying his arrival (robbing me of a day with him) by a day, and then she texted him a lot, and asked for four calls in five days. That level of intrusion was absolutely awful!

Let me explain. The first time Puck popped home to Renee was about 22 hours after I'd got the news about Dad. He was only heading home for about an hour, so I stayed at our accommodation. By the time he got back, I was all up in my fears and feels about Dad and it wasn't healthy for me. But of course I didn't ban him from leaving me again for the rest of the week. The next day, Charli was so up in her fears and feels about polyamory, he said he really needed a couple of hours to visit her. So we made a plan so that I wouldn't be sitting at home stewing about Dad. Puck dropped me at a strip mall and I went shopping. It kept me distracted, was on my to-do list anyway and that way I could meander, and he texted me when he was ready to collect me a couple of hours later. We grabbed some ingredients for dinner while we were there and carried on with our evening. Charli was calmer, and I hadn't gone into a tail-spin about Dad. Win-win.

Yes, I can see that being a thing, with the proviso that if I need the same thing in return if he is with her, that there is a yes for me there, too.
As mentioned above, I didn't have a hinge who did this, but I had a bf who did this when I was a hinge. He's an ex. He was an ex quite quickly in the grand scheme of things.

Before Puck even arrives here, and definitely before I go back, we'll be having more discussions about expected level of communication outside of us. I am reluctant to visit his hometown again as it seems too easy for him to respond to Renee's every beck and call. So I'll probably negotiate that we stay elsewhere, like a different state ;). I also won't visit at the very beginning of January again (which is a pity since that's perfect for my work holidays, but it's obviously not good for them after being away for Xmas with her parents). And I suspect when he's here (hopefully this April), Renee will leave him alone more anyway -- it's not like she can ask him to go pick up xyz for her lol. He could likely talk with Charli for a while on the evening(s) that would normally be their overnight date while I go out for groceries or something (time zones will be pretty good for that). Selene would probably be content with photos and texts, and maybe a call but she's apparently not a video call person at all. In short, we will work with the personalities and needs in the polycule.
It sounds like your partner has a lot to juggle! Good on him if he manages it all. It sounds exhausting to me!

Thank you for your considered response and ideas. :)
 
I call my partners or text them whenever I want. They do the same to me. If it's not convenient to answer a call or text, we return it when it is convenient.

This wouldn't be reasonable for me. It's the kind of thing instilled when you're not on the same page in your relationship and there is conflict between members of the polycule. If a partner said this to me, I'd be thinking that everything is much worse than I imagined and I need to reevaluate if these relationships are still tenable.


My advice to you is not to push this because I think you'll find yourself with the much shorter straw. The reality is that when you are polyamorous, your partner has other partners and most people check in with their partners every day. Your partner has a long term relationship of a decade, there is absolutely no way I'd have someone tell me when and how I can speak to my long term partner.

If I felt like I had a partner who neglected me for other people, I'd break up with them.

I'm hesitant to push, as you point out. I do need to advocate for my needs, though, as my in-person time with him is very important to me.

Thank you for your thoughts. It's good to get variety of thoughts.
 
I should add that I don't have a problem with the calling/texting if it's something on which all three people are okay with and agree. Like polyamory itself, everything depends on mutual consent. For some people, the calling/texting works for them, and is no big deal. I have no problem with that. WestCoastRedhead, the difficulty I see in your situation is that you, your partner, and your metamour disagree about whether calling should take place, and what works for you is not what works for them. I assume they wouldn't mind if you called during their time together -- or would they?
When things were happy/healthy with the three of us, I had no issue with her asking for a call during our time together, and usually there is minimal texting between them. She has gotten more demanding/needy in the last few months, and now that she refuses to have anything to do with me, things are not happy/healthy, so the calls feel more intrusive.

I used to need to have a call with Pisces if she was with him for several days, as we liked to have a call every three-four days, but I don't feel that need now. I am perfectly content to leave them alone completely (no texts or calls, aka radio silence), as I've gotten more comfortable/stronger with all of this, so don't have those same needs. I am happy to speak with him before, and then after, but no need for the in-between. I guess I am hoping we three can get to that point too, where she is fine to leave him be most of the time, and leave the phone calls for before and after our time, unless it is really important.

If I'm working, or doing something else, like my Pilates class, I don't care who he calls. He is welcome to call her all he likes if I'm busy.

I guess I'm trying to see what balance can be achieved. I will continue to advocate for my needs.
 
I'm sure there is a happy medium in there somewhere -- something that would be tolerable for all three of you?
 
Regarding power -- with Puck and my metas, I don't try for power over their actions. Nor his. I express my actual needs, and my wants, but at the end of the day, if he deems it vital to call/see someone else while we're in person, so be it. That's part of the nature of polyamory. I can always ask the question, "can x length of time be just ours" but I've gotta be prepared to get a No response or have it become a negotiation for have x/24 hours of the day on y/7 days of the week be uninterrupted but be flexible on where would be a good time for his attention to be elsewhere. I certainly don't have the energy to focus solely on him 24/7 outside of sleep. I need some outside contact too.
 
When I think of it, my contact with other partners tends to be via text when I'm with other people. I don't think we do actually call much. So I think our contact is unintrusive. However, if I felt I needed to talk to my other partners over the phone, but it was against some sort of rule, I don't think I'd be comfortable. But then, I'd naturally keep any calls to when I wasn't having quality time.
 
Communication with partners, friends and family are all the same. When I'm with someone spending quality-time and wanting to be present, there are no text/calls unless it's super urgent. They all know this about me.

Now, if it's on a holiday then usually after 72 hours, I give a sign of life with a text, if they have contacted me. But all my partners have low texting habits, so it's good.

There was one ex who texted quite a lot, but also he dialed it down a bit and texted/called when I got back home if he knew I was with someone.
So yes, to me it's a reasonable ask to give someone space when you're away for the weekend, for example.
 
When I think of it, my contact with other partners tends to be via text when I'm with other people. I don't think we do actually call much. So I think our contact is unintrusive.

However, if I felt I needed to talk to my other partners over the phone but it was against some sort of rule, I don't think if be comfortable.

But then I'd naturally keep any calls to when I wasn't having quality time.
Yeah, I don't like the idea of a rule either. I guess I just want her to leave us alone, and for him to say no to her ask for calls/excess texting, unless really important. I know all I can do is express my wishes/needs here.
 
I have a boundary as well. Quality time with my partners means we don’t answer phones or texts unless it is an emergency. I let my partners know when I’ll be with whom so they know I won’t be answering And when they can expect me to reply or talk to me again.
Again, this seems like a boundary that the Hinge has the privilege of, that a person on the end of the V (who only has the hinge as their partner) does not. I don't see what my own boundary could be around this issue, do you? Maybe I'm too new to have sorted that out yet...

I dislike it very much when my quality time is interrupted by any partners on either side. All of my partners receive the same quality time from me. Those who had issues quickly got used to it.
Me too!

I think there’s just programming (my guess it’s left over from monogamous programming) that tells you that you should communicate daily or respond right away or something is wrong. I have no issue with this but it might be at a time that’s not convenient for anyone so it might not happen. It’s an insecurity that should be worked on. Nobody had this insecurity before cell phones and answering machines. There was no instant gratification. There were so many reasons we didn’t answer the phone attached to our kitchen wall 😂😂.f
I know, right? I both love it and hate it.

if someone needs to communicate while you are with another partner (outside of a true emergency), they should take a long look at why they need that. Is is a control thing? Insecure thing? Do they want to show meta that they are important too? Or even that they exist? Or are more important? After all, they are interrupting metas time for their own selfish needs. They are taking your focus away from the partner you are with(1) to put it on them (2) during partner (1) time.
Yes, excellent questions, and ones I might ask my partner... :)
if I have more that 24 hours with a partner then we do have phone time set aside each day to check in with other partners, but anything less than 24 hours, they can wait til I’m done.

with my nesting partner we have designated quality time. Same rules apply to that time. Outside of that I can chat any time.

also, they can text any time, I put my phone on do not disturb. If it’s an emergency they need to call repeatedly to override dnd. That means I’m never checking my phone. I’ll know if it’s an emergency.
Solid plan. :)
 
I don't see what my own boundary could be around this issue, do you? Maybe I'm too new to have sorted that out yet...
I agree, you cannot control your partner and what he does. But you can have a discussion with him. Talk about options and see if there are any you both can agree on with compromise.

sometimes Being alone is better than being with someone who is distracted with someone else. Your boundary could be you’ll leave if you ever feel unimportant, your time isn’t quality or prioritized while you are together. And you can let him know what exactly that means for you. You might not need this if you two can agree on something. But if you can’t, it’s okay to not be okay with someone else occupying your time with him. She needs to work on her issues. He cannot make her feel more secure. That’s on her.

I hope you two can work something out. There’s lots of suggestions in this thread, see if any work or lead you to your own ideas.
 
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