coping help for someone new to a poly relationship

yojimbo125

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I have always been in mono relationships and my current girlfriend and I have talked about having a poly relationship. It took some time but I finally agreed to her having another partner (I have no interest in having anyone else). Now here is where my troubles come in, i completely understand the new and shiny attraction for her other partner but sometimes i feel like i'm being left on the back burner so to speak any time i want to spend time with her it seems like i have to schedule it with her or if i do get to it feels like it ends up being cut short, now granted her other partner lives like 2 blocks away and i live 15 ish minutes away so it's a lot easier for them to spend time together. I'm also having trouble getting over the fact that I'm not the only person she loves and no matter what is sead there is always that thought in the back of my head of whether she will leave me for him, part of me feels like i worked really hard just to get my relationship with my girlfriend to even start and all he had to do was show up and got the golden pass. Out of the few times all three of us have tried to just hang out i am either being very jealous/territorial/alpha type personality and i know that can really hurt my relationship and i don't know how to cope or improve myself so everything can work out
So i guess my question is what can i do to improve myself so i don't sabotage all 3 of our relationships. Any and all help or insight would be greatly appreciated
 
You don't need to improve yourself, but it will definitely help to become more educated about polyamory!

Welcome. Take your time and read around the boards, either in the new posts or by doing a search for terms, such as jealousy, that you want to learn more about.

Read around the web in general (like morethantwo.com and practical polyamory), and read books too. A great book is called Opening Up. It does a great job of covering all the territory, the emotions, the mindset, guidelines for equity, etc.

Your gf is having "new relationship energy" (NRE) for her new bf, and may not be aware that she should give you plenty of quality time and some reassurance of your place in her heart, or risk losing you. At the same time, the mono way of relating, where you are guaranteed almost all of her spare time, is gone. Polyamory requires some healthy independence from all the partners. Everyone is an autonomous individual and has the right to choose how to spend their time, and with whom. At the same time, ethics, respect and plenty of open and honest communication and self-awareness are key.

I hear that she is very precious to you, and you definitely don't want to lose her to Mr New and Shiny!
 
I'm sorry you struggle.

I have always been in mono relationships and my current girlfriend and I have talked about having a poly relationship. It took some time but I finally agreed to her having another partner (I have no interest in having anyone else).

Could you please be willing to give more details of how this all started?

It does not sound like you are monoamorous (want to love 1 sweetie) and relationship shape flexible (can do either monogamy or be an end point in a poly V or similar).

It sounds like you are monoamorous (want to love 1 sweetie) and monogamous (want a 1:1 relationship shape.)

Is that true?

What's with the "finally agreed?" Was she badgering you about it and you just said yes not because you love the idea, but because you wanted her to stop badgering? Or more like it took time to discuss and prepare? What did you do to prepare?

Was this joyful consent? Or more like "I don't wanna do this but I'm gonna because I don't want her to dump me" in vibe?

Did you agree because to want to find out if you are relationship shape flexible?

I get that the "old normal" is gone, and the "new normal" is not here yet. So the transition space in the middle? It's normal for it to feel weird. And it's normal to go through some growing pains.

Now here is where my troubles come in, i completely understand the new and shiny attraction for her other partner but sometimes i feel like i'm being left on the back burner so to speak any time i want to spend time with her it seems like i have to schedule it with her or if i do get to it feels like it ends up being cut short

Have you told her about these feelings of being taken for granted?

As for scheduling... yes. You have to actually do it. Some couples start to get lazy about that even though they could be checking in on calendars all along even when monogamous. Because the partner may have work things, friend things. time alone things.

But some couples get into this habit of just assuming they have "dibs" on any free time the partner has. To me? It's a form for taking partner and partner's time for granted.

So going back to actually asking like when first dating and people didn't know each other well yet and were't taking for granted... might feel weird.
That said, if you schedule time to spend together and she cuts it short? Or isn't present, distracted with the phone texts, etc? You could bring that up. Some people turn into really annoying partners when in NRE. And if they aren't careful and keep taking the established partner for granted? They can do damage to the relationship.

Maybe you and GF want to read poly hell and talk about how to avoid those pitfalls.


now granted her other partner lives like 2 blocks away and i live 15 ish minutes away so it's a lot easier for them to spend time together.

Try not to worry about what she's doing with him. Worry about if she's spending enough time with YOU. She could be bowling, gardening whatever with her other time. But is she spending time with YOU?

And since you don't live with her... is she telling you too much about the dude? Maybe you would transition better hearing LESS.

Some people are so used to having the partner be their sounding board for everything from habit that they just take the partner and services provided for granted.

She might be gushing her NRE excited lalalas too much at you. And while you understand it, YOU aren't in it, and may not be interested in hearing about it. In fact, hearing too much of it right now while you are trying to transition might poke your jealousy bear, and what you need is more peace and less poking. If she wants to gush, she could gush at the other partner who is presumably in NRE mode too.

If she don't seek your consent first by asking if you to even have this conversation? She just starts whooshing at you inappropriately with her lalas? You may have to speak up and say something like "Look, I'm happy for you. But I'm trying to transition here. I get overloaded hearing about your NRE lalas randomly. I need to you to actually ASK me if I'm up for hearing it right then and obtain consent first. I do not like whooshing from the sky at me about it. Either do not tell me about it at all for a while, or talk to me about it only on Fridays at 8 PM so I know when it's coming. This random from the sky thing makes transition harder for me."

On your end? You might have been used to always helping her with her problems as partner/helpmate whenever. But now that she poly dates, some areas of her life don't actually require your assistance and may bring to light that you were overassisting before.

So it may feel weird to stop yourself and take a step back and say "No, that's not actually my job."
Or say "Hey, you know just because I'm your partner, it doesn't mean I have to..."
Or say "Hey, you know just because I'm your partner, it doesn't mean you get to..."

It's ok to have some boundaries with your partner. It's ok to detangle some. It isn't like you all have been through this before and you can go "Ok, she gets like this in NRE. It lasts X weeks. I get like this. It lasts Y weeks. Here's the coping things that work. I already know these things don't work."

It's the first time ever so you are still figuring out how to row this boat. And it if would help if she didn't get carried away with her NRE lalas throwing things in your boat at random. Have some boundaries. At the same time cut each of you a little slack for being newbies and accept some learning mistakes will happen as you figure it all out.

Could think about detangling with GF and talk.


The only info you actually need to know is calendar, and that safer sex practices will be use/are being used.

The rest is optional. So if she's oversharing other info? And if bugs you? It's ok to tell her to stop and that you actually don't want to know/have to know all this other stuff.

I'm also having trouble getting over the fact that I'm not the only person she loves and no matter what is sead there is always that thought in the back of my head of whether she will leave me for him

Isn't that always there though? Even in a monogamous relationship? People can decide they want to stop participating, end it, and leave?

How did you cope with it before?

part of me feels like i worked really hard just to get my relationship with my girlfriend to even start and all he had to do was show up and got the golden pass.

I don't know how long you two have been together. But you met her at point X. He met her at point Y. He didn't meet the same GF as you. She may have gotten more comfortable with her relationship skills and more confident in the space in between meeting you and meeting him.

What is it you would like to happen to her instead? Or to him?

Out of the few times all three of us have tried to just hang out i am either being very jealous/territorial/alpha type personality and i know that can really hurt my relationship and i don't know how to cope or improve myself so everything can work out

Maybe stop hanging out all three together for now. Maybe it is too soon.

Or.... just don't hang out. It doesn't have to be kitchen table poly. It can be "very separate V" poly. And maybe you only hang with them once in a great while for big deal things for her. Like she is getting a special award or whatever. You could just be basic polite to your meta as you sit in the audience to watch her get the award. But not like you are gonna hang out together ever Saturday nite either.

So i guess my question is what can i do to improve myself so i don't sabotage all 3 of our relationships. Any and all help or insight would be greatly appreciated

Could examine your feelings.

Jealousy = I have something I am afraid someone else will take away
Envy = I wish I had something someone else has

Then make the list under each word. Sounds like you are afraid she will dump you in favor of Dude. (jealousy). And then you maybe envy she and Dude are in that NRE lalalala place and you are not. (envy) How would you describe the other feelings? Maybe writing them out gives clues for how to cope with them.

Could read about jealousy.


Could do the jealousy workbook.

I hope things get better for you.

Galagirl
 
I have always been in mono relationships and my current girlfriend and I have talked about having a poly relationship. It took some time but I finally agreed to her having another partner (I have no interest in having anyone else). Now here is where my troubles come in, i completely understand the new and shiny attraction for her other partner but sometimes i feel like i'm being left on the back burner so to speak any time i want to spend time with her it seems like i have to schedule it with her or if i do get to it feels like it ends up being cut short, now granted her other partner lives like 2 blocks away and i live 15 ish minutes away so it's a lot easier for them to spend time together. I'm also having trouble getting over the fact that I'm not the only person she loves and no matter what is sead there is always that thought in the back of my head of whether she will leave me for him, part of me feels like i worked really hard just to get my relationship with my girlfriend to even start and all he had to do was show up and got the golden pass. Out of the few times all three of us have tried to just hang out i am either being very jealous/territorial/alpha type personality and i know that can really hurt my relationship and i don't know how to cope or improve myself so everything can work out
So i guess my question is what can i do to improve myself so i don't sabotage all 3 of our relationships. Any and all help or insight would be greatly appreciated

It’s generally considered a common practice to not see or be friends with your metas (it’s not a philosophy I personally subscribe too) but common none the less.

Frankly your situation sounds really difficult…. I take it your gf was not all that enthusiastic about entering a relationship with you? I have had it both ways and I have come to the conclusion that I will never try to escalate a relationship without enthusiastic buy-in… If someone is on the fence about a relationship I try to keep that dynamic as just sex or friends or both until some element changes dramatically.

You are mono, she is poly…. She wasn’t enthusiastic about you from the start. That’s a tough situation.. I find myself wondering if this relationship is healthy for you…
 
Hello yojimbo125,
Here are some more jealousy links:
Keep in mind, that sometimes jealousy is an internal warning system, that lights up when you are being treated badly. Or when you are in the wrong relationship for you. In this case, your girlfriend is putting you on the back burner, and giving her new beau a golden pass. That is a crappy way to treat you, even if it is being fueled by NRE. Tell her that she's taking you for granted, and that you need her to start treating you better. If she's not willing to do that, you may want to reassess the relationship in general. Do you want to be in a relationship with someone who treats her boyfriend, who loves her dearly, like she is treating you? You may end up breaking up with her just on ethical grounds.

Of course you need to monitor your own behaviors too. Don't act in such a way as to sabotage a perfectly good relationship. If it's going to end, end it formally and respectfully. Don't undermine it with passive-aggressive behavior. If she's going to treat you badly, at least don't stoop to her level and treat her (or her other boyfriend) badly. Hopefully the above links give you some help and guidance in that area.

You are in a tough situation. Hang in there.
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
Originally she never wanted to have a relationship but I was able to get her to agree to one date and see how things went and everything went well so it lead to another date and eventually became an official relationship
 
You don't need to improve yourself, but it will definitely help to become more educated about polyamory!

Welcome. Take your time and read around the boards, either in the new posts or by doing a search for terms, such as jealousy, that you want to learn more about.

Read around the web in general (like morethantwo.com and practical polyamory), and read books too. A great book is called Opening Up. It does a great job of covering all the territory, the emotions, the mindset, guidelines for equity, etc.

Your gf is having "new relationship energy" (NRE) for her new bf, and may not be aware that she should give you plenty of quality time and some reassurance of your place in her heart, or risk losing you. At the same time, the mono way of relating, where you are guaranteed almost all of her spare time, is gone. Polyamory requires some healthy independence from all the partners. Everyone is an autonomous individual and has the right to choose how to spend their time, and with whom. At the same time, ethics, respect and plenty of open and honest communication and self-awareness are key.

I hear that she is very precious to you, and you definitely don't want to lose her to Mr New and Shiny!

I'm sorry you struggle.



Could you please be willing to give more details of how this all started?

It does not sound like you are monoamorous (want to love 1 sweetie) and relationship shape flexible (can do either monogamy or be an end point in a poly V or similar).

It sounds like you are monoamorous (want to love 1 sweetie) and monogamous (want a 1:1 relationship shape.)

Is that true?

What's with the "finally agreed?" Was she badgering you about it and you just said yes not because you love the idea, but because you wanted her to stop badgering? Or more like it took time to discuss and prepare? What did you do to prepare?

Was this joyful consent? Or more like "I don't wanna do this but I'm gonna because I don't want her to dump me" in vibe?

Did you agree because to want to find out if you are relationship shape flexible?

I get that the "old normal" is gone, and the "new normal" is not here yet. So the transition space in the middle? It's normal for it to feel weird. And it's normal to go through some growing pains.



Have you told her about these feelings of being taken for granted?

As for scheduling... yes. You have to actually do it. Some couples start to get lazy about that even though they could be checking in on calendars all along even when monogamous. Because the partner may have work things, friend things. time alone things.

But some couples get into this habit of just assuming they have "dibs" on any free time the partner has. To me? It's a form for taking partner and partner's time for granted.

So going back to actually asking like when first dating and people didn't know each other well yet and were't taking for granted... might feel weird.
That said, if you schedule time to spend together and she cuts it short? Or isn't present, distracted with the phone texts, etc? You could bring that up. Some people turn into really annoying partners when in NRE. And if they aren't careful and keep taking the established partner for granted? They can do damage to the relationship.

Maybe you and GF want to read poly hell and talk about how to avoid those pitfalls.




Try not to worry about what she's doing with him. Worry about if she's spending enough time with YOU. She could be bowling, gardening whatever with her other time. But is she spending time with YOU?

And since you don't live with her... is she telling you too much about the dude? Maybe you would transition better hearing LESS.

Some people are so used to having the partner be their sounding board for everything from habit that they just take the partner and services provided for granted.

She might be gushing her NRE excited lalalas too much at you. And while you understand it, YOU aren't in it, and may not be interested in hearing about it. In fact, hearing too much of it right now while you are trying to transition might poke your jealousy bear, and what you need is more peace and less poking. If she wants to gush, she could gush at the other partner who is presumably in NRE mode too.

If she don't seek your consent first by asking if you to even have this conversation? She just starts whooshing at you inappropriately with her lalas? You may have to speak up and say something like "Look, I'm happy for you. But I'm trying to transition here. I get overloaded hearing about your NRE lalas randomly. I need to you to actually ASK me if I'm up for hearing it right then and obtain consent first. I do not like whooshing from the sky at me about it. Either do not tell me about it at all for a while, or talk to me about it only on Fridays at 8 PM so I know when it's coming. This random from the sky thing makes transition harder for me."

On your end? You might have been used to always helping her with her problems as partner/helpmate whenever. But now that she poly dates, some areas of her life don't actually require your assistance and may bring to light that you were overassisting before.

So it may feel weird to stop yourself and take a step back and say "No, that's not actually my job."
Or say "Hey, you know just because I'm your partner, it doesn't mean I have to..."
Or say "Hey, you know just because I'm your partner, it doesn't mean you get to..."

It's ok to have some boundaries with your partner. It's ok to detangle some. It isn't like you all have been through this before and you can go "Ok, she gets like this in NRE. It lasts X weeks. I get like this. It lasts Y weeks. Here's the coping things that work. I already know these things don't work."

It's the first time ever so you are still figuring out how to row this boat. And it if would help if she didn't get carried away with her NRE lalas throwing things in your boat at random. Have some boundaries. At the same time cut each of you a little slack for being newbies and accept some learning mistakes will happen as you figure it all out.

Could think about detangling with GF and talk.


The only info you actually need to know is calendar, and that safer sex practices will be use/are being used.

The rest is optional. So if she's oversharing other info? And if bugs you? It's ok to tell her to stop and that you actually don't want to know/have to know all this other stuff.



Isn't that always there though? Even in a monogamous relationship? People can decide they want to stop participating, end it, and leave?

How did you cope with it before?



I don't know how long you two have been together. But you met her at point X. He met her at point Y. He didn't meet the same GF as you. She may have gotten more comfortable with her relationship skills and more confident in the space in between meeting you and meeting him.

What is it you would like to happen to her instead? Or to him?



Maybe stop hanging out all three together for now. Maybe it is too soon.

Or.... just don't hang out. It doesn't have to be kitchen table poly. It can be "very separate V" poly. And maybe you only hang with them once in a great while for big deal things for her. Like she is getting a special award or whatever. You could just be basic polite to your meta as you sit in the audience to watch her get the award. But not like you are gonna hang out together ever Saturday nite either.



Could examine your feelings.

Jealousy = I have something I am afraid someone else will take away
Envy = I wish I had something someone else has

Then make the list under each word. Sounds like you are afraid she will dump you in favor of Dude. (jealousy). And then you maybe envy she and Dude are in that NRE lalalala place and you are not. (envy) How would you describe the other feelings? Maybe writing them out gives clues for how to cope with them.

Could read about jealousy.


Could do the jealousy workbook.

I hope things get better for you.

Galagirl
So how it all started was alot of discussing how it all works, giving reassurance and what not abd I decided why not give it a shot and see how it goes we had talked about it previously and i wanted to build our foundation first and it came back up later on which is where i became agreeable to try it out. As for the other points im going to have to take a little more time to answer when I get out of work tonight
 
Originally she never wanted to have a relationship but I was able to get her to agree to one date and see how things went and everything went well so it lead to another date and eventually became an official relationship

She didn't want a relationship at all or didn't want a relationship with you?

More and more, people seem to be using "coming out as poly" as a soft transition from one monogamous relationship to another in an attempt to ease the breakup pain (which never works, BTW.) Is it possible that she's just much more into this other guy than she is into you? That would be the old fashioned, simple yet glaringly obvious interpretation. Since poly is a thing now, sometimes people grab onto it as an interim emotional solution to the fact that they simply found someone with whom they'd rather be.
 
It's true that some people use poly like a "soft exit" because they want to line up the person before leaving the old person and not have to spend time alone or on their own in between. Not especially nice. So tread carefully.

So how it all started was alot of discussing how it all works, giving reassurance and what not abd I decided why not give it a shot and see how it goes we had talked about it previously and i wanted to build our foundation first and it came back up later on which is where i became agreeable to try it out.

So this is "to try it out?" Is the other partner of aware of that? Because what's the expectation if the "experiment" results in you not wanting to do it any more? That you just bow out? That she's expected to dump the new partner? Something else?

Galagirl
 
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Originally she never wanted to have a relationship but I was able to get her to agree to one date and see how things went and everything went well so it lead to another date and eventually became an official relationship

Whether it’s a business partnership, or a romantic partnership; each party should be enthusiastic about the prospects. My advice might be different if you were poly, but from a mono perspective creating your *single and most important* partnership on the foundation of begging, coercing, or whatever it was that you did to “get her to agree” sets a bad precedent for the future…

Add her poly bombing you on top of it and I’m filling in the gaps and may be a bit biased here, but I think you need to re-evaluate your own priorities and life goals.
 
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