Covid-19

apexcone

New member
How sad that the spread of the latest virus to come out of China continues to cause havoc and fear across the world.

How tragic for the Chinese people to once again see their self elected leadership, using fear, secrecy, control and intimidation to control the masses on the Chinese mainland. No wonder the citizens of Hong Kong are doing their very best to stop the Chinese leadership from extending its demonic tentacles over their territory.

In true form and doing everything in its power to keep the truth from its own people and the rest of the world, the Chinese government has not only seen their strategy to keep the original virus outbreak quiet, but they have once again shown the rest of the world they are a toxic regime that cares little about the people whom their called to serve and care more about holding on to the illegitimate power they have taken.

I personally hold the Chinese government directly responsible for the 2715 who have died, the 78,064 who are now infected and the billions of dollars which have been lost by the global community. Let's hope the rest of the world starts to wake up to how evil these people are and start holding them accountable.

How long are we going to continue to do business with this toxic regime that appears to have no regard or concern for openness and transparency.

As for my family we will be looking carefully at the manufacturing labels and to the best of our ability will be aggressive in avoiding all their products.

Can I encourage others to boycott this toxic regime by purchasing items manufactured in our home land.
 

vinsanity0

Active member
As if our country wouldn't do the same thing. Our president just likened this to the common cold. This after he has defunded everything that has been in place for such an occurrence.

Sorry, can't jump on your anti-world bandwagon. I am a globalist. We are all human beings.
 

Magdlyn

Active member
It's funny to talk about evil in China, when Trump's role models are Kim Jong Un and Putin.
 

kdt26417

Official Greeter
I'm certainly not a fan of Chinese government. Never have been. However, it seems to me that, boycotting Chinese products, won't hurt their government much if at all, at the most it will hurt the common citizens, and they aren't the ones at fault.

I'm more worried about the situation in the United States. President Trump keeps grabbing more and more power, I don't know how far he'll get but let's just say it doesn't bode well if he wins a second term.
 

apexcone

New member
As if our country wouldn't do the same thing. Our president just likened this to the common cold. This after he has defunded everything that has been in place for such an occurrence.

Sorry, can't jump on your anti-world bandwagon. I am a globalist. We are all human beings.
I'm a globalist as well, my problem isn't with China, its with its leadership.
 

apexcone

New member
It's funny to talk about evil in China, when Trump's role models are Kim Jong Un and Putin.
They'd also be in my list of nasty regines
 
1. EVERYONE has been grossly mishandling this, and while the Chinese government IS a giant fuck, and they DID start this mess, the truth is the blood is on a lot of government's hands.

2. Boycotts, especially on the scale you're suggesting, are notoriously unrealistic and ineffective. The best we can do is try to promote policy changes in our own countries and hope it succeeds and spreads - which is still a low-chance and very long-term process, but it is more do-able then getting enough people to stop buying 90% of all things.
 

ref2018

Member
The Chinese Disease

2715 who have died, the 78,064 who are now infected
That's *all*? I thought it was more than that. Even 10 times that number is nothing, even if it's just confined to China.

Mass hysteria, that's all this is. I suspect it is an artificially situation created by the US government because this is an election year. Shit like this happens all the time.

Carry on as usual. Nothing to see here.
 

Magdlyn

Active member
That's *all*? I thought it was more than that. Even 10 times that number is nothing, even if it's just confined to China.

Mass hysteria, that's all this is. I suspect it is an artificially situation created by the US government because this is an election year. Shit like this happens all the time.

Carry on as usual. Nothing to see here.
Some statistics I have heard:

The death rate has been estimated at 1%. But that might be higher than the actuality, since so many people are infected with the virus but have little to no symptoms, and are going undiagnosed. By contrast, the death rate from (actual) influenza, which of course, comes in many strains and has been widely studied, is .01%. And yet, everyone get vaccinated! Flu will kill you unless you get our expensive vaccines! (Dear Sheeple, Please keep lining our pockets with cash! Love you, mean it, Smith Kline)

The deaths from Covid 19 are in people who have otherwise challenged immune systems. Sick (probably not breast-fed) babies, the very old, malnourished people in poverty, and people with (probably untreated) diabetes.

And yet, let's cancel the summer Olympics in Tokyo OMG!
 

vinsanity0

Active member
I've heard 2% mortality rate and the stats ref posted are already out of date. The number of cases in Italy doubled overnight. The disease itself is not a political hoax. It's really happening all over the world. Where it gets political is this administration is downplaying it because they are trying to save the stock market. Because , you know, the stock market is way more important than people's lives.
 

apexcone

New member
My son in law who lives in Dubai came back from South Korea last week. No problems getting back into Dubai which I was surprised at. Yesterday the school
Where our 7 year old grandson goes called and said, please pick your son up and keep him at home for 14 days 😱
 

MeeraReed

Member
My partner and I were supposed to take a long-planned trip to Venice this week...we had to cancel. Not because we feared getting sick ourselves, but because the CDC & State Dept raised the travel warning level on northern Italy over the last few days. We didn't really have a choice.

The airline refunded the cost of the flights with no trouble, as did our AirBnB, so we didn't lose any money.
 

ref2018

Member
I was in Greece when this first started being a thing, and on my flight back to the US, the plane was less than half full. I had the entire three seats to myself. Best economy class main cabin zone 5 flight evar...
 

vinsanity0

Active member
Hey wait, *I* didn't post those stats, I just quoted them from the OP. Don't give me credit for making up wrong shit, plsthx.
LOL, sorry. I wasn't saying they were wrong. They were right at one time. What I was pointing out was things are changing rapidly. For instance, it was two deaths in the Seattle area, then all of a sudden it's six. Glad I'm not living there now. But then again, it's hit Florida now.

I'm sorry it sounded like I was criticising you.
 

Evie

Active member
I've got tickets to the States in just under 6 weeks. Every day it's looking less likely I'll be able to go 😢
 

Magdlyn

Active member
I watched/listened to the official WHO report last night. It was factual, up to date, and quite optimistic about containment. Cases are way down in China.

There are cases in about 70 countries, out of 170 countries world wide, but many countries only have one case so far, out of that number.

We've also been reading that masks do more harm than good. Frequent hand washing is very effective, as is not going to work if you're sick (which should be a no-brainer!).
 

vinsanity0

Active member
I've got tickets to the States in just under 6 weeks. Every day it's looking less likely I'll be able to go 😢
Do you think NZ will restrict travel to the US?

I just read where Brian Tamaki says born again Christians are immune. You could always try that... lol
 
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