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DanielDC

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First sorry, English is not my first language.

Me and my partner are in a almost 10 years relationship (monagamous). It's a very close and meaningful relationship for both of us.

About 2 years ago she told me she felt in love with someone, and she wanted us to discuss the possibilty for her to be with that person (not instead of being with me). I was very angry and we didn't even really talked about it. So she gave up.
Now it happened once again, and she told me that this time she's not willing to give up (despite her love for me). So it's either I'll allow it, or we won't be able to stay together.

It's a very complicated situation for me, and I really don't know what to do. I'm a very jealous and insecure person.

I actually have a very specific request: can anyone here share an experience of someone who was extermly jealous/insecure/hurt/etc. and wasn't even willing to consider the option of polyamory - who actually learned to accept/embrace/love being in a polyamory relationship?
I heard a few stories of people who met when already one of them was polyamorous. But it's important to me to learn about situations where both people were monogamous for their entire life, they were in a very close monagamous relationship with eachother for years and even planned to spend the rest of their lives together.
 
Yes, there are tons of people here who were mono first, poly later. It's the cultural default to be monogamous. Polyamory is a very new movement and relationship style. Most people don't even know it is an option.

Do a tag search here for mono/poly or just read New Posts and see all the threads started by people in your situation, for starters.

That said, poly doesn't work well unless both partners are personally secure, can overcome jealousy and learn compersion (happiness for their partner's/partners' happiness), and can communicate lovingly and clearly, and create personal boundaries for their own comfort.

Mono/poly can work, but it's a difficult transition usually, for couples that started monogamously. The one pressing to Open the relationship needs to be patient for the mono person to develop comfort with the idea. If the mono person gives it a good try, a period of educating themselves, followed by actually consenting to it, yet as time passes they become more and more unhappy, it's better to part ways. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be in a mono relationship!
 
I actually have a very specific request: can anyone here share an experience of someone who was extermly jealous/insecure/hurt/etc. and wasn't even willing to consider the option of polyamory - who actually learned to accept/embrace/love being in a polyamory relationship?
Unfortunatelly I don't remember a story from this forum now - often people come when they are hurt the most, and then leave so that we don't see the outcome :(

I think you can do it though. It will take time, and you will have to dig deep under the fear and hurt, to see how the deepest of you actually responds to the idea of openness. Either you find some intrinsic motivation - something, that's in it for you, or some ideal that you do want to embody - or you don't, in fact you find good inner motivation for monogamy, and then it's better to part ways.

It's unfortunate that your wife probably feels under time pressure now that she's in love. That is no good. Since this situation feels "burning" to both of you, I think you should see if you can get professional help from a therapist with this issue (as a couple of both of you individually), to help facilitate the necessary process.
 
Hi DanielDC,

For what it's worth, I'll say that my (now) partner and my (now) metamour were a married monogamous couple, and she had to have many hard discussions with him for almost a year, before he finally consented to polyamory (with me). I guess my point is that it can take a year or more, it might take you a year or more before you feel reasonably comfortable with the idea of polyamory. But everyone's different, maybe you'll get there sooner than that. But don't be too quick to be discouraged, even if it's taking awhile.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
I am the wife who had a monogamous 15 year relationship before finally understanding my unhappiness was because I was poly and constantly fighting feelings of being in love with someone else as well. My husband didn't react well at first either and went through a long year of insecurity, which from my end made me more distant. For the poly person, dealing with someone's insecurities is like walking on eggshells all the time, wondering what you can and cannot say because they might get angry, or depressed or take it wrong, etc.

It took him a long time to really become stable with it. He said he loved me and couldn't imagine not being with me and so over time we have come to a happy place.

But I also felt like your partner. It wasn't a choice between 'him and him'. It was a choice between monogamy and poly and I needed poly. I was not wanting to leave one partner for another. But if I was forced to make a choice, what that really meant wasn't between the people but between the lifestyles.

And my choice was the poly lifestyle. That's what your partner is feeling as well. Whether you can choose that or not is up to you but think about it more that way instead of at a personal people level.

And welcome to the forums!
 
I just want to point out that compersion is nice but not necessary to either be polyamorous or to accept a partner's polyamory. Understanding, tolerance, self-awareness and open communication are all critical but compersion is not. You don't have to feel any particular feelings in order to be polyamorous or accepting of a partner's desire for multiple partners.

It's not necessary to be poly yourself to get to a place where you are ok with your partners 'poly-ness'. Mono/poly is possible. One great definition of poly is accepting one's partners having other partners. I don't know who said this but I think it is spot on. Many people are ok having multiple partners themselves but struggle to accept their loved ones seeing others.

Good luck!
 
First sorry, English is not my first language.

Me and my partner are in a almost 10 years relationship (monagamous). It's a very close and meaningful relationship for both of us.

About 2 years ago she told me she felt in love with someone, and she wanted us to discuss the possibilty for her to be with that person (not instead of being with me). I was very angry and we didn't even really talked about it. So she gave up.
Now it happened once again, and she told me that this time she's not willing to give up (despite her love for me). So it's either I'll allow it, or we won't be able to stay together.

It's a very complicated situation for me, and I really don't know what to do. I'm a very jealous and insecure person.

I actually have a very specific request: can anyone here share an experience of someone who was extermly jealous/insecure/hurt/etc. and wasn't even willing to consider the option of polyamory - who actually learned to accept/embrace/love being in a polyamory relationship?
I heard a few stories of people who met when already one of them was polyamorous. But it's important to me to learn about situations where both people were monogamous for their entire life, they were in a very close monagamous relationship with eachother for years and even planned to spend the rest of their lives together.

Hi Daniel,

Some people really helped me out on here this week when I was desperate for help so your post caught my eye. I'm glad it did because I can speak to your specific request.

17 years ago my wife and I were monogamous and planned (still do) to spend the rest of our lives together. We met shortly after we each got divorced from our first marriages. We met online. We dated for a year and then got serious. Being our second marriage we chose to buck convention since it already bit us in the ass once through our divorces.

We were very adventurous together and over a few years we became swingers. We didn't play with other couples much but really liked the party vibe in the swinger lifestyle and the people were very fun.

Eventually we met a couple that we became good friends with. Things developed and we found ourselves playing sexually with that couple...but always together and always in a controlled and negotiated environment. We were monogamous and our marriage was sacred. Still is....but we are poly now (that's another long, un-related story)

Well, my wife and the other man clicked pretty hard and he set to convincing her that we could have a more emotional situation. It scared the crap out of me and I thought he was trying to steal my wife. We spent 9 years off and on visiting that couple (they lived across the country) and most of that time it was platonic. But inevitably every few years we would fall into playing again and the guy would suck her back into thinking about it being more emotional. He even gave her a copy of the Ethical Slut (a book about poly) which really scared me and forced me to make us pull back to being friends.

I battled jealousy over their connection that was so strong it nearly tore apart our marriage and damaged our friendship with that couple many times. Virtually ANY move that guy would make that I didn't like I would get very upset. Even though I was free to enjoy his wife, and my wife was telling me how much I meant to her and how much our marriage was first...it didn't matter.

My jealously controlled me, controlled our choices, controlled her choices, it controlled what we would do with that couple and when. I needed to have control over all of it to feel safe. If anything fell out of line I would get overwhelmed with jealousy and react. After I felt better I felt safer re-engaging until something else caused a reaction.

Eventually my wife got tired of me going through this cycle. It took about 11 years of being friends with this other couple. We had a LOT of fights, especially because my wife kept assuring me that I was her priority. It wasn't enough.

So one fall we just hit the wall. Something happened with my wife. Something clicked for her after some really difficult conversations with me. I noticed my wife talking to this other guy differently. She would take my side in conversations, she would put my needs first over her desires, she would accept my choices as her own and when we engaged that other couple I could tell that she and I were operating from the same place. She even started to get angry when this other guy started to push her into doing things that she knew I was unwilling to do. I found myself starting to even defend them and the situation began to occur very differently to me. I began to see that I had control, she had control and we were working TOGETHER.

Virtually overnight the jealousy vanished for me. I can't even really say how or why. I don't know what I said, or she said. There's no step by step process.

It has nothing to do with how much you love each other, either. It has to do with your compatibility in working through difficult social and emotional challenges and how committed you are to being with this person (your wife). What are you willing to put up with? How much hardship can you endure before you throw in the towel and go find someone else who want the kind of relationship you want?

I WANTED the kind of relationship I had, even with the swinging. I WANTED to work through my jealousy. I WASN'T WILLING to give up because I saw an opportunity to grow as a person by breaking the spell it had over me.

But it took two things. My wife and I both wanted the same thing, to live the life we wanted in a way where we managed the situation to deal with what is causing jealousy. AND My wife and I were both willing to do the hard work together to get through any challenges involved in that process.

If you do any reading on jealousy you will get a lot of things telling you that there is nothing wrong with jealousy, and you can never get rid of jealousy and they are RIGHT! Jealousy isn't something you will EVER get rid of, but you CAN live a life where it doesn't control you. Why? Because jealousy is like an emotional cocktail. It arises when all the emotional ingredients combine - and it's different for everyone.

If you want to get rid of jealousy you have to understand the INGREDIENTS of your brand of jealousy. What are the emotions you are having the combine to create this jealousy. There are unspoken and unmet needs. If you can get jealousy broken down to the root emotions and the needs they are pointing to, then you can get those needs met and POOF jealousy doesn't take you over. You may still feel it time to time...but you know that it's just a sign you need to look deeper.

The bad news is it can destroy your relationship getting to a place where you master jealousy. Maybe even several relationships.

The good news is that once you do understand how your emotions come together to create jealousy, you will NEVER wrestle with it again IF you remain self aware and have a desire to work through your emotions AND a partner that is willing to work as much with you as you are with them.

It also helps TREMENDOUSLY if you and your partner both WANT the same things out of life. That provides a huge incentive in working through jealousy. I can tell you now that if I had to work through it just because my PARTNER wanted to be poly, I don't know if I would've survived that. Doesn't mean you can't...just means you have to keep focused on what's in it for you to work toward that end goal because it WILL BE HARD!!!

So you have to ask yourself and your partner - are you up for the risks and the challenges ahead? What's in it for each of you? What unifies you toward this goal? Is this a lifestyle change or just satisfying an urge or curiosity? Are you willing to risk everything to go down this road?
 
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