Ending of a poly relationship

SierraValley356

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I feel at a bit of a loss and I'm not quite sure I am doing the right thing.

I am the hinge within a poly V. I (28F) have my fiance and NP Kevin (32M) and my other partner Tyler (31M). Kevin and I have been together over two years, and Tyler and I had been together about 9 months. Tyler lived 2 hours away, so the long distance made things quite difficult.

Kevin and I went into our relationship knowing we wanted an ENM/open/poly dynamic. Admittedly we went into it a bit blind, being new to it, and we both started our journey to find other partners at the same time. I found easier success in finding a partner than Kevin did, which seems quite common for guys vs gals. I found Tyler quite early on and we hit things off very easily. There was some jealousy from Kevin, which caused some issues early on, but we were able to work through them and we settled into a bit of a routine. I would go and visit Tyler every other weekend, and on our off weeks Tyler would come and visit for a night after work. I have a pretty normal 9 to 5 job Monday through Fridays, while Tyler works a job that is 24 hour shifts, so he works 2 or 3 days a week. He works other odd jobs to help fill in his other days.

During my work days, Kevin also worked the same hours. He works a very hands-on job, so he isn't able to text during the work day. Kevin and I usually get up and head out, and then we spend time together after work. But our evenings often include running errands, doing laundry, making dinner, and other miscellaneous household upkeep. True dedicated time together is a few hours in the evenings usually and then our weekends, in which we do spend quite a few hours with household upkeep and other general life items.

My time with Tyler is a lot more limited because of the long-distance aspect, but is more dedicated to our time together. We generally spend the whole time exploring or relaxing together when we are together.

I try my best to be a good hinge, though I know I fail at times. I also do my best to split important trips equally among my two partners. Tyler has expressed feelings of unhappiness regarding me going on trips with Kevin, or not getting to go with me on things first. Kevin also had some unhappiness about who got to do what with me first in the beginning, but that was not as much of an issue towards the end. We got to a point where Tyler would express unhappiness about not being able to attend a trip with me because Kevin was going, or feeling like he was in second consideration for trips that we both wanted to do.

I felt this was not true, as I had planned two very large trips with Tyler, and so I was trying to find some other smaller, but still meaningful trips for Kevin and me, since his job has black-out dates and so he frequently only has weekends to travel, instead of being able to take extended time off for vacations.

This made it so I would get really nervous to plan trips because it would upset Tyler, and Tyler did not feel safe telling me about said trips because it would make me upset with him. I think those feelings he is expressing aren't actionable since Kevin also deserves to have trips with me. So these comments only really serve to upset me. But Tyler insists he shouldn't be afraid to share his feelings. I agree he should be allowed to share them, and I need to work on my emotional enmeshment when my partners are sad or disappointed. But I also feel concerned at the precedence this seems to set. Towards the beginning of the relationship, if I planned a trip with one, it kinda became expected that I would plan a trip with the other to "make up for it." I was doing my best to break that mold, because I didn't want my partners constantly trying to one-up each other, and I couldn't do every activity in the world twice. Kevin settled into it and was not pressing for more trips than I want to give, but Tyler always seemed to want more plans and more trips.

The next big hurdle we have faced is expectations of time and communication. Tyler and I communicate pretty much throughout the day because both of our jobs generally allow us to text in our downtime without issues. Sometimes if I have a busy workday I won't be able to text much. Tyler has expressed some unhappiness on these days that we didn't get to talk much, which I understand.

But constant communication is a bit of a high bar to try and reach, and Tyler generally would want a phone call or more messages the next day to try and make up for the lost communication. We had been trying to do phone calls once a week on my way home from work (I really hate being on the phone, but I do know phone calls are important to him) but my work has been excessively busy because it is audit season, and I have been liking my drives home from work to decompress in quiet or with some music on. Admittedly, I have been scatterbrained, so I haven't been making the calls a priority lately. And I generally feel bad taking phone calls in the evening, since that is typically time I dedicate to Kevin since we haven't really spoken all day.

Tyler also likes when I send him selfies, but I tend to get awkward looks from my coworkers taking selfies at work, and I don't like to take selfies in front of Kevin. I worry that Kevin will wonder why I'm sending selfies to Tyler but I don't send any to him. (This is all on me. It's an assumption I am making.) And Tyler would also like audio messages so he can hear my voice. He will frequently send me audio messages while he's driving. They are easy for me to listen to at work since I have my ear buds in. But it's a very different story trying to make audio messages. I can't really make audio messages at work, and making them at home in front of Kevin seems a bit awkward.

So, I ended up calling things quits with Tyler. Because of the long distance, I just don't think I have the capacity to meet Tyler's needs. I don't really feel capable of setting boundaries with him because it always feels like the goal line will move or if I'm having a bad week (or month because of audit season) I will have him upset at me for not spending more time messaging, calling, sending selfies as he would like me to. I feel this is an incompatibility that we won't really be able to compromise on, but he disagrees. I feel like I am already tapped out and my cup is empty trying to fairly distribute my time to my partners but it never feels like enough. When I have expressed this, he has insisted he isn't asking for that much more and we can definitely compromise and find a solution. But I don't have any more to give. I am consistently running myself out of spoons trying to manage this dynamic and I am exhausted trying to be fair to both my partners and be a good hinge.

Tyler believes I ended things without trying and we could have made it work. I don't personally see a way of being able to meet his needs with the distance and my other commitments at this point in my life. I feel so torn. I feel like I am doing the right thing and he will be able to find someone who can meet those needs, but he insists this breakup was a rash decision.

Am I doing the right thing? Was there a chance to make this work?
 
I answered in your other post. But I wanted to say it here too.

You did the right thing in ending it.

He wants more than you care to give or CAN give and still be healthy yourself. It's not your job to run yourself down to the ground to keep Tyler happy. You don't set yourself on fire to keep Tyler warm.

But I don't have any more to give. I am consistently running myself out of spoons trying to manage this dynamic and I am exhausted trying to be fair to both my partners and be a good hinge.

Yup. You made the right call. You are not the right fit for Tyler. He is not the right fit for you. It's a bummer to break up. But it's a reasonable risk of dating. Sometimes things don't pan out. Nobody has to be the bad guy.


Tyler believes I ended things without trying and we could have made it work.

All any person needs to break up is, "I don't want to do this anymore." Nothing else.

What did Tyler think all the time before was? That WAS the "trying." You don't have to try AGAIN.

I don't personally see a way of being able to meet his needs with the distance and my other commitments at this point in my life. I feel so torn. I feel like I am doing the right thing and he will be able to find someone who can meet those needs - but he insists this breakup was a rash decision.

You ARE doing the right thing for you.

Tyler will find someone else.

This break up was NOT a rash decision. You were posting on here and stressing out about it and thinking lots.

Galagirl
 
P.S. You DID set a personal boundary. It is called "I can only give so much to a relationship as a balanced hinge and still be healthy myself. If someone wants more than I can give or wants me to compromise my own health and well-being, I'll bow out."

And what happened? This is all you can do/give for time and energy on this relationship. You made Tyler aware of what you can and cannot do.

He did not respect your limit. He kept asking/pushing for more and more, and started guilt-tripping you because he "has needs" and "he's not asking for that much" and "his needs are not important to you."

You ENFORCED your time/energy boundary by dropping out. I hope you see that.

Was there a chance to make this work?

No. I don't think this would work. You are supposed to be all about his needs? And he doesn't care about yours? That's messed up. Tyler did not respect YOUR needs for rest and balance. I don't think he makes the cut when measured on the healthy relationship wheel.


You don't have to feel bad about ending things to protect your mental health, your peace, your well-being. Dating people shouldn't have to cost you those!

GG
 
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I think you did the right thing. You told them your boundaries up front and were honest about it, and it sounds like they wanted more than you were able to give.
 
Hi SierraValley,

It sounds like you have been trying really hard to be fair and considerate to both Kevin and Tyler, and while Kevin has complained somewhat, he has eventually owned his own feelings and handled them himself. Whereas, Tyler has continued to complain and demand, and always seems to want more -- especially more than Kevin gets. He asserts that you and he would be able to compromise on your incompatibilities, and yet his version of a compromise seems to be for you to give more, and to take away from what Kevin gets if necessary. This is not only unfair to both you and Kevin, it is also impossible to sustain. You are already tapped out, and doing more than you realistically can. I guess Tyler is acting on NRE: He just can't get enough of you. But he needs to realize that you have certain limits. You don't have superpowers.

Tyler believes you ended things without trying, which is a totally distorted picture of reality on his part. You most certainly have been trying. The problem is that Tyler is never content with the extent of your efforts. Tyler says he isn't asking for that much more of you. The truth is that no matter how much Tyler gets, he always wants "just a little bit" more. I think your instincts are warning you that if you continue to date Tyler, things will only get worse and worse. An argument could be made that you've already stuck with Tyler for longer than what's really healthy, given the red flags that have been raised around him. It definitely wouldn't be wise to stick with him longer still, at least that's my perception. The fact that he's long distance just worsens the situation, LDR's are often unsustainable.

Don't let him guilt trip you. You have done nothing wrong.
Kevin T.
 
Tyler sounds very needy and like he manages to make his problems YOUR problems. Instead of owning his own feelings, adjusting his expectations, focusing more energy on poly dating other people, etc.
 
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