Guys who shave... down there

I just want to put a different spin on this, aside from the hygienic reasons. I don't intend to sound conceited, or better than anyone else, but I don't want to look like an ape. I'm not overly hairy, but I love how it feels to be cleanly shaven. And skin-on-skin with a partner feels so much better to me.

Another point I want to make is that it's culturally acceptable for women to shave their legs and armpits. That really took off in the 1920s. It has since been associated with femininity. I really hate it when people think that when a man does it, it makes him feminine. I get the impression that we're at a point where it's becoming more socially acceptable for men to shave, but we're just not there yet.

Last, and I'm going to sound extremely short-sighted and narrow-minded here, but I just cannot understand why hairy men are attractive. Not only that, but many women are just totally turned off at the sight or thought of a man who shaves everything, all because of cultural norms. I'd just like to think that mankind can "evolve" beyond that.

Sorry if I sound like as asshole here. I don't intend to.
 
ALpolyman said:
I'm going to sound extremely short-sighted and narrow-minded here, but I just cannot understand why hairy men are attractive. Not only that, but many women are just totally turned off at the sight or thought of a man who shaves everything, all because of cultural norms. I'd just like to think that mankind can "evolve" beyond that.

Sorry if I sound like as asshole here. I don't intend to.
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@ALpolyman, you don't sound like an asshole, just expressing a personal preference, and why you just don't get the opposite personal preference.

I am not turned off by hairless men. I just haven't dated a man (yet) who shaved everywhere. I would be fine with the totally shaved guy, as long as he was fine with the fact that I don't shave completely. I don't shave my legs. Too much of a hassle. I do shave my pits to prevent smell. And I trim the pubes, mostly out of courtesy.

The few men I've met who shave down there have expected their partners to be completely shaved too. I respect that they walk the walk, so to speak, and don't just expect a totally shaved partner while their hair runs amok. But I am not interested in shaving everywhere. And it's been such a strong preference for them, that it just stopped any interest of mine right in its track. Of course, this is solely my experience.

Do you prefer totally shaved partners, ALpolyman? I'm just curious, not dissing your preference, whatever it happens to be.

Oh, and as to why hairy men can be attractive-- I was a lesbian for many years. There is really something that just says 'Yup, MAN!' when running one's hand over a hairy chest. I find I like it. Quite a contrast to my relationships with women where I was thinking 'Yup, BOOBIES!' instead.

Just my two cents.
 
ALpolyman and opalescent, I think the ways you both see things are beautiful, because that's your preference, and I am glad you are sticking with something that makes you feel great. I just don't like it when people try to force their way of seeing things and doing things on other people.


opalescent said:
As to why hairy men can be attractive-- I was a lesbian for many years. There is really something that just says 'Yup, MAN!' when running one's hand over a hairy chest. I find I like it. Quite a contrast to my relationships with women where I was thinking 'Yup, BOOBIES!' instead.
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(Bold for emphasis.) This a cultural thing, as you will find in different cultures around this planet that some women always shave everything, and they tattoo their entire bodies from head to toe. They even shave and tattoo their children. Some women never shave and are nearly hairless. And some women never ever shave anything, and they are hairy nearly everywhere on their bodies.

Believe it or not, many physically mature human females naturally grow hair on their faces, their heads, their eyebrows (sometimes becoming a uni-brow), their armpits, their arms, their backs, their abdomens, their butts, their entire legs, feet, and hands, their crotch area, their ears, their necks, and even on their chests (although it's theorized by some scientists that females evolved to have less hair on their chests than the males of the human species because it made it easier to feed the young, although this is simply speculation).

And there is NOTHING WRONG WITH ANY OF THAT. IT IS ALL PERFECTLY NATURAL AND HEALTHY.

Your body is your body. You can choose for yourself what you want to do with it. Your life is your life. You can choose for yourself what you like and what you don't like.
 
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ALpolyman said:
I just want to put a different spin on this aside, from the hygienic reasons. I don't intend to sound conceited, or better than anyone else, but I don't want to look like an ape.
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I do want to look like an ape. I'm a human being. Human beings are apes (and mammals, and vertebrates, and animals, if you go up the classification). If you like it all shaved, good for you. I don't, because I think it looks less natural/human/animal, and more artificial/doll/object.

ALpolyman said:
I'm not overly hairy, but I love how it feels to be cleanly shaven. Skin-on-skin with a partner feels so much better, for me.
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Good for you. But it depends on the person. As I said earlier, skin-on-skin for me means no clitoris stimulation, while a thatch of hair stimulates me.

ALpolyman said:
Another point I want to make is that it's culturally acceptable for women to shave their legs and armpits. That really took off in the 1920s. It has since been associated with femininity. I really hate it when people think that when a man does it, he's feminine. I get the impression that we're at a point where it's becoming more socially acceptable for men to shave, but we're not there yet.
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Yes, it does suck that there is a double standard. I think it's because women have been more objectified, and there are a lot of things that have the purpose of "dolling them up," such as make-up, for instance, but also shaving.

It's also possible that hair is considered intimate because it grows in intimate areas, and therefore because women more commonly wear dresses and skirts than men do, shaving their legs became a "replacement" for wearing tights in making them look less naked.

I know, for instance, that a lot of porn magazines had their models shave more and more, so they could show more, because what was considered indecent at the time was the hair!

ALpolyman said:
I'm going to sound extremely short-sighted and narrow-minded here, but I just cannot understand why hairy men are attractive. Not only that, but many women are just totally turned off at the sight or thought of a man who shaves everything, all because of cultural norms. I'd just like to think that mankind can "evolve" beyond that.

Sorry if I sound like as asshole here. I don't intend to.
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Attraction really varies from one person to the next. I prefer hair, because it makes me feel like I'm with a person, not an inanimate object. I prefer natural smells to perfume for the same reasons. I'm certainly not the only person like this. And I don't think it's cultural. We grow more body hair when we develop sexually. It makes sense to me that it would be a sexual trigger.

Honestly, though, finding it less attractive and less intimate when a man is shaved doesn't mean that I would break up with him or love him less. For instance, I might also prefer one hair colour to another, or one body type to another, but it's not a dealbreaker.
 
london said:
But whilst they are at work, commuting from work, mixing with other people, they smell. Yes, I was the one who said the next reasonable time to bathe was in the evening, but all day, they smell of urine, blood, faeces, sweat, uric acid and anything else that seeps out of your pores and clings to the hair under your arms and between your legs. Removing excess hair from these places prevents that so you stay fresher all day, between showers. Get it now? I don't like people I have to mix with in public to stink because it makes me heave.

I have no idea why you keep bringing up circumcision. You can wash under the foreskin at least once a day to maintain hygiene, but you can't wash underneath hair, nor get your deodorant onto your sweat glands where it needs to be. As you said, hair grows back, and the person who owns the hair consents to its removal, so the two are completely, totally different, and your use of bold just highlights how irrelevant this topic is.
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I don't think you understand. I shave both my pubes and my underarms, and it does nothing to prevent me from sweating, or make deodorant work any better for me. Sometimes I wonder if getting laser treatments would help with that.

If your nose is truly that sensitive, maybe you should see a doctor about that.
 
opalescent said:
Do you prefer totally shaved partners, ALpolyman? I'm curious, not dissing your preference, whatever it happens to be.
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Despite my name, my wife and I aren’t polyamorous, yet. We were going to pursue it, but she’s working on building her business and is working out some personal issues.

Anyway, neither of us has had any other partners yet. But if I did, I’d prefer shaved parts. I really don’t know why I’m so pro shaving. I’m sure it’s due to the porn industry. Ever since I found dad’s dirty magazines when I was a kid and watched porn videos (but not really a lot), I thought it looked sexy. Then when I experienced the difference, I was sold.

I fully admit that I’m kind of like the Tea Party is to Republicans about grooming and how the porn industry and magazines and so on are in our face about hairless bodies. With women, I’d be okay with the "normal" stuff shaved: armpits, legs. But I’d prefer the vaginal area be trimmed, at a minimum. It’s hard to get suction while focusing on the clit with a bunch of hair in the way. Sends my wife to the moon!

Tonberry, I fully accept that we are "glorified" apes. I guess the reason I sound so frustrated is this. One of my best friends, a single mother of two, knows that my wife and I want to try polyamory. I’ve given some consideration to seeing how she would feel about “giving us a try." We’re very open about a lot of things. The other day, she mentioned her ex-husband had shaved everything (indicated by his shaved arms). That was the perfect segue into the fact that I shave. She then said she couldn’t stand shaved men. She thinks that men ‘should’ have hair, and that’s the way it’s meant to be. I tried to counter that by saying it was only about a century ago that women started shaving, and now it’s the cultural norm. My point was, why can’t we redefine what the norm is?

She didn’t bite. Where I’m going with this is that even if I'd wanted to ask how she’d feel in a poly relationship, I won’t now because of her response. I guess I got the vibe that it’s a huge turn-off, so I just won’t go there.
 
ALpolyman said:
I guess the reason I sound so frustrated is this: one of my best friends knows that my wife and I want to do the poly thing. [...] She can’t stand shaved men. She thinks that men ‘should’ have hair, and that’s the way it’s meant to be.
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I understand your frustration. I think it always sucks to be rejected, and when it's not because of who you are, but because of an aspect of you, it feels unfair. I definitely don't think it means all women will reject you, even among those who happen to prefer more hair.

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I don't think you understand. I shave both my pubes and my underarms, and it does nothing to prevent me from sweating, or make deodorant work any better for me.
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You actually sweat more if you don't have hair. One function of hair (and the reason why we have it under our arms) is to trap the sweat so it can keep cooling the skin, and you don't have to keep producing it. Without the hair, unless you use anti-perspirant, you'll sweat constantly, instead of just enough for the hair to trap it and keep you cool.

While sweating had a very important purpose originally (keeping our bodies cooler when it was hot and/or during exercise), nowadays we have access to showers, freezers, A/C and many other things that we can use to cool ourselves down, so antiperspirant is an option. Just don't forget to regulate your temperature if you use it, but that's not that much of a risk in most technological countries.

Now, it's certainly possible to smell the sweat trapped in someone's armpit hair. But it's not more likely than being able to smell the sweat that has dripped from their shaved armpits down their sides, onto their clothes, onto their arms, and so on. So while I can absolutely believe you have a strong sense of smell, and can smell some people's body odors to a bothersome degree, are you certain that the people you can smell are not shaved, or that the people you can't smell are? For all you know, both are either.
 
lot of years

I have been completely shaving my pubes for a lot of years. I like how close my wife's and gf's pussies feel. I think they like it too. And when we really get going, it feels like we are joined at the crotch.
 
I had a vasectomy back in '86. My wives had fun with me and shaved everything, and to my surprise, I enjoyed the feeling of being bare. These days, the ladies are divided on this. Jo likes me hairy. Marie likes me clean shaven. So I've compromised and leave my pubes hairy and shave everything else.

Btw, if you enjoy erotic e-stim, not having any hair avoids nasty shocks when the energy travels along the hair.
 
What a thread! I snorted my tea at one point and the hubby now thinks I'm crazy. LOL

I shave bare down there, as does my hubby. In fact, unless other men will be seeing his legs, he shaves off all his hair. He's a tattooer and has a fascination with skin, even his own. He says it also helps keep body odor down. I do it because he likes it. He's actually the only man I've ever dated that shaved anything other than his face. I have to admit I like it. I enjoy how it looks, and not hacking up the occasional hairball.
 
I posted in this thread a while back, but had to pipe up again when I read this:

(Also, Dude acquired a professional hot wax set-up, including both kinds of wax, then taught himself.)

Oldpolyman said:
Jo likes me hairy. Marie likes me clean shaven. So I've compromised and leave my pubes hairy and shave everything else.
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Dude has the same problem. I prefer natural fur down there on men, and Lotus prefers shaven. So he now keeps the mons pubis lightly trimmed and waxes the other bits (scrotum and base of the penis). I find that I prefer waxed to shaven, as the hairs have their natural taper as they grow back, instead of that prickly, cut-off stubble.

(We both agree on the back-hair thing, though. Lotus and I teamed up and waxed his back. We have to do that more regularly!)

Lotus "helped" Dude wax me last night (i.e., she distracted me). The deal is, he can wax my pits and labia, if he also waxes my legs. Did I mention I HATE shaving my legs? (MrS is in in charge of tweezing my nipples and eyebrows.) Then we waxed Lotus's armpits as a trial run. She was fine with it and hasn't had any problems today. She has sensitive skin. She says that next time she'll let him wax everything.
 
Sorry to revive this. I've been shaving down there, but can't seem to get to everything every time. Maybe I need to use a mirror.

I've ordered Nair bikini cream and will see how things turn out.
 
I wish I could wave a magic wand and turn myself into a hairless man, for the sake of convenience among other things!
 
I entertained the idea of getting a full body wax, but it was more athletically inspired than anything else. I'm a tri-athlete. I pitched the idea to my wife and she looked at me like I was crazy, or an idiot. Yet she complains about me being a gorilla. Not sure where to go from there, so I've done nothing. :unsure:
 
That's the great thing about nothing: It's so easy to do. ;)
 
The Nair bikini cream arrived, but it says not to use it on the genital area. Shucks. Back to shaving, I guess? I will use the Nair nearer and nearer the forbidden region and see what happens.
 
What the ... is Nair bikini for people who wear bikini bottoms on their arms? LOL.
 
Nah, it's for the hair that shows outside your bikini. So on your thighs and belly. The pubic area may be okay-ish, but the genitals themselves are too sensitive and it would burn like crazy, and could have a chemical reaction, which is why they have a warning not to use it on them.
 
I tested it inside the bikini line. No irritation, but not much of the hair came out either. I will try a larger area and multiple times and see.
 
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