Need Advice on Opening Up My Relationship

arthurv

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Hi everyone!

I’ve joined this forum because I feel at a crossroads in my life and need advice on my situation.

I am 39M and have been in a mono relationship with Blue (35F) for 10 years now. We share an apartment and are still very much in love.

Before our relationship started, I was interested in polyamory. But I never discussed it at the time, mostly because I felt it was hard enough finding a good match in a traditional monogamous relationship. For the first three years, I didn’t even think about the possibility of opening up. But when the honeymoon phase started to fade, the idea returned. I felt strong crushes on other people. I was tempted to act on those crushes, but they were either impossible/impractical or just faded, so I kept postponing the "opening up" discussion with Blue.

One of those “impossible” crushes was with Red (35F), a close friend of Blue. I met her a few months into my relationship with Blue and was immediately attracted to her. It was a really strong feeling that really felt like, for the lack of a better term, “love at first sight." But at that time, I was still enjoying NRE with Blue, and Red was also in a committed mono relationship. So I dismissed my feelings as an anomaly, thinking that it was probably mostly physical attraction that wouldn’t last.

We became friendly and met regularly at events with common friends. As we got to know each other better, I realized the attraction was not just physical. We shared many passions, hobbies, and opinions. We even talked about possibly being polyamorous, though it was mostly theoretical. I was always happier to attend events knowing she would be there, sometimes arriving early hoping for one-on-one time. I’d like to think she feels the same way, but I have nothing concrete to back this up, only meaningful glances, a sort of nervousness when we are alone, and a closeness I never felt with other platonic friends. But I know the attraction might very well be one-sided. In the end, I settled on thinking we could probably never be in a proper relationship.

But a few years ago, something changed. Red left her boyfriend and said she wanted her future relationships to be polyamorous. She identified as a relationship anarchist and began dating multiple people. From that moment, I began to imagine being with her not just as a crazy hypothetical, but as something that could really happen.

So, I got more information on polyamory and started to gauge Blue's openness to it

Our first discussion was encouraging. She admitted that it was something she thought might be a good idea, but that she was not ready to move in that direction immediately. Fair enough, I decided to give her time to think.

About a year after that conversation (it was February this year), I reintroduced the subject, and it went, let’s say, weirdly. Her initial reaction was that she was more inclined to consider it now. We talked about how we both had been attracted to other people (without sharing who those people were), and she was more relaxed talking about it. I went to bed thinking things could change for us pretty soon.

But she woke up in the middle of that night, almost having a panic attack. Rethinking our discussion, she said she feared I would leave her for a new partner (it didn’t help that close friends of ours had just broken up a ten-year relationship a few weeks after opening it up). She then went back on what we talked about earlier, asking me to put a pin in it for now. I can’t deny that was a huge blow for me.

The problem is that my feelings toward Red have only intensified in the last few years. I am now at a point where an evening with her leaves me lovesick for several days. I am shaken and anxious when I think about her. I can’t concentrate. I don’t think I can just ignore my feelings anymore, but I am not sure what to do.

My first idea was to talk about it with Red, be frank about how I see her, and ask if she feels the same way. That would be a huge relief, just to be honest with her. If she’s telling me she doesn’t think of me the same way, that would be hard, but at least I could begin to process it. I would try to avoid Red and let time pass. What I like about this solution is that I wouldn't have to worry Blue for no reason. That would leave us more time to deal with a possible opening-up of our relationship in the future. But of course, if Red is interested, that would mean I will have to have a difficult discussion with Blue sooner than planned. And the fact that I went to Red before going to her would probably make it more difficult.

That’s why I thought it might be best to talk to Blue first about the situation. If the biggest problem she faces with us going poly is the fear that I would leave her, it might be easier to deal with this situation since she trusts Red, and Red has made it clear she’ll never want to go back to being monogamous again. So Blue would be less likely to think that Red might “steal me away.” But of course, because she is a close friend, that will bring many other issues.

Speaking to Blue first also makes me uneasy because if Blue thinks she would never be comfortable with me dating Red, then I would have to “give up.” That wouldn’t solve the fact that I am still very much into Red. In that scenario, I will probably have to limit our interactions to the bare minimum, hoping my feelings will fade over time. But the question of “what could have happened” would still linger on my mind and would be very hard to deal with.

Since I am still unsure what to do, I hope you can help me. And if you have other ideas on how I could deal with the situation, even better. Thanks!
 
Hello arthurv,

It seems to me that you have a strong need for getting some closure on your feelings for Red, and to that end, you need to know whether Red has the same feelings for you. I am somewhat inclined to suggest you bring this up with Red, and get that closure. If Red does have those same feelings, then you bring it up with Blue, with the understanding that if Blue says no, you will distance yourself from Red and try to give your feelings some opportunity to recede. I'm assuming, of course, that you wouldn't break up with Blue under any circumstances.

Sympathetic regards,
Kevin T.
 
I disagree with Kevin. It is more ethical to decide to open up with Blue first. Even if Red weren't in the picture, if you're poly, you're poly. There would be someone else. There will be others in your future. You will keep getting crushes and falling in love with multiple people.

Blue knows you're interested in polyamory. Yes, she is fearful that you'll leave her. But polyamory doesn't mean you leave someone when you fall for someone else. The friends' breakup wasn't because of polyamory. They were done. They used poly as an excuse to break up, for one or both of them to have a "soft landing" before breaking up.

If Blue wants to be mono, and be in a mono relationship, she shouldn't be with you. If she has poly tendencies herself, she can get over her fears of loss gradually, as you discuss this topic openly, do research, maybe get some couple's counseling with a poly-friendly counselor.

Now, dating Red makes it harder, because she's Blue's friend too. This could cause issues in their friendship.

Please read the resources we have provided at the top of this forum:


I recommend reading Opening Up first. Listen to the Multiamory podcast from the beginning, if you like listening more than reading.
 
Whether Red returns equal feelings towards you is besides the point.

Blue is your current partner and should usually be solved first to see if you are ready to open up. I'd suggest to ask Blue first and see how she answers, if she is hard-lined about the situation and declines it's up to you if you will be okay to stay in a monogamous dynamic.
 
After re-reading my post and your answers, something occurred to me.

It’s true that it feels more honest to talk to Blue first, so I think I will do that. However, I also want closure with Red. I realize that even if Blue is not okay with the situation, I can still explain the situation to Red.

I can tell her why she won't be seeing me as much in the future. If she had any hope that something could happen between us, this would at least clarify things for her. It might be a little awkward in our circle of friends for a while, but I think it’s the best option.

Also, I never see myself leaving Blue. I believe she will be okay with polyamory at some point in the future. I am willing to wait and work with her to get there.

In any case, thank you for taking the time to answer me. It feels much better to talk this out with someone.
 
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