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Hi all, I'm Kelsie.

I'm about to start my final term of undergrad, which means that I am bringing my research project to a close soon. The purpose of my project is to see how pornography affects people from diverse sexualities, genders, and relationship styles - not just straight men and hetero couples. There's a lot more information about my study if you follow the link, but I want to share some personal information that I'm otherwise not sharing in my research.
I have been researching pornography addiction for the last five years and I've found that no research I have come across applies to me, a queer cis woman who has recently been in a poly relationship and is interested in non-monogamy. I can't even imagine how many others are entirely unrepresented in this field of study, so it's my goal to help expand this research. There's only so much benefit research can have when focusing only on cis straight men and couples. So I'm here to really reach out to anyone who feels unrepresented in research of all kinds. I want to help you be seen!
There's a huge lack of research in how pornography affects people in non-monogamous relationships. I've learned that pornography is generally hard on monogamous relationships, but I'm wondering if non-monogamous partnerships experience the same difficulties.

Here's a link to my study https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1...4OMx31QJlp7eGtuXLjGs3Z4yxA/viewform#responses I welcome any feedback!

Thank you for your time!
 
Greetings Kelsie,
Welcome to our forum. Please feel free to lurk, browse, etc.

I participated in your survey, it wasn't hard to do. My first thought was that I don't view pornography anymore these days, but then it occurred to me that I often visit FetLife, where seeing pornography is just about inevitable. In the past I have viewed pornography more intentionally, but I don't think it damaged me per se.

Hope that helps.
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Hi,

What interesting research you are doing. How exciting! You've probably already considered it, but pornography can be viewed as some to be a form of polyamory. I don't think it is, but let me explain the greyness.

When reading about affair recovery, there are some couples who feel hurt when their spouse views pornography. They feel betrayed, small, ugly and not worthy. The couple may have a religion that views pornography negatively or may believe that marriage means one partner for all their emotional, financial, social and physical needs. Viewing pornography for these people constitutes a betrayal of trust that can hurt the other partner in the same way an affair might.

The distinction between polyamory and swinging is said to be that polyamory is more about the emotional connection whilst swinging is more about sex, with a huge ton of gray in between. Hiring prostitutes purely for sex is further down that same spectrum. Viewing pornography can be seen as even further down the spectrum. We already have 3-D pornography (warning: not safe for work) with devices like the oculus rift, but the future is likely to blur reality and fantasy even further by hiring actors on the other end of the internet to act our your fantasy in real time whilst you see and explore them in 3-D. You may not have to pay a cent, with the content paid for entirely by ads. Would this still be considered prostitution or phone sex?

In the end, if a couple has boundaries or vows that are broken, then trust is lost due to betrayal. Sex is often seen as the ultimate betrayal and trust broken between a couple for the gain of a romantic third hurts deepest. Viewing pornography involves opening up sexually to a third person, usually a very sexually appealing person that can make your partner feel insignificant and insecure. Many monogamous couples probably don't admit to viewing pornography with their partners because of this. They may even use a Don't Ask Don't Tell mentality when it comes to pornography.

Just food for thought. And probably food that you've already thought of before, but I couldn't resist sharing. Thanks for reading.
 
I read your hypothesis at your link. If you have an idea porn will have a positive or neutral effect on non-mono relationships, why are your questions about the participants' "relationship," as if they only have one relationship? Seems to defeat the purpose of your quest.

And then you throw in an assumption that porn will have a negative effect on Lesbians, either personally or on their relationship(s). I find this strange and offputting.
 
On a technical level, your survey's levels of education lack an important distinction: professional degree (which would include JDs and MD/DOs who are not MD/PhDs).
 
I read your hypothesis at your link. If you have an idea porn will have a positive or neutral effect on non-mono relationships, why are your questions about the participants' "relationship," as if they only have one relationship? Seems to defeat the purpose of your quest.

And then you throw in an assumption that porn will have a negative effect on Lesbians, either personally or on their relationship(s). I find this strange and offputting.

Hi there. I apologize for anything being offensive or off-putting. That's definitely not my intention. The hypothesis that women who are in lesbian relationships will experience negative effects on their relationships due to high pornography use comes from studies that suggest that women in heterosexual relationships often experience negative effects from pornography on their relationship. Because past research has shown this correlation, I hypothesize that women in relationships with other women will experience negative effects on their relationship. Does that help explain where I'm coming from?

It was essential that I state my hypotheses in my debriefing statement, but out of context of my entire paper, I can see how these hypotheses can come off as offensive. In the end, this is novel research and I have no idea how pornography truly effects people in relationships outside of traditional hetero, mono relationships without making educated guesses based on past research about heteo/mono individuals and couples.

Another thing I would like to mention is that my survey is comprised of three different questionnaires created by other researchers (they are cited in my research proposal, but it was not necessary to cite them on my actual survey). This is also my very first time making and distributing a survey for research purposes and it's harder than you might assume. I apologize for not being as inclusive as I meant to be, but I really am trying my best. I also had to write the paper and distribute the survey within 10 weeks while working full time and taking other classes, so I was under a huge time crunch.

I appreciate your feedback and will take all of this into account when I create surveys in the future. My plan is to go into neuropsych, so hopefully I can just use fMRI instead of survey and see what's really going on in peoples' brains instead of depending on self report to surveys that ultimately will never satisfy each unique individual.

I'll respond to the rest of you folks later. Busy day! Thanks everyone for your participation and feedback <3
 
Hi there! I also had a few bits of feedback....


First, it's hard to explain for relationships that are romantic, and committed but currently not that physically sexual, and for those that are long distance. I'm not sure how you could account for those.

Second, if asking about multiple partners, I'd like to be able to answer the sexual questions about them all, not just pick one partner. (I have both a boyfriend and girlfriend and they are VERY different relationships!)

Finally, in the phrasing of what you call pornography I wasn't sure what all was included. I don't care to watch videos of things, but I read short naughty stories regularly (literotica) and definitely only use them for the same reasons you'd use porn (not to appreciate the art). Otoh, I'll occasionally look at pictures that can be considered pornographic (sexual at least) but not get turned on by them or use them that way. Like looking at rope bondage pictures because they are pretty and to get ideas. Which of those or both should I have been counting for answers about frequency?
 
Hi all, I'm Kelsie.

I'm about to start my final term of undergrad, which means that I am bringing my research project to a close soon. The purpose of my project is to see how pornography affects people from diverse sexualities, genders, and relationship styles - not just straight men and hetero couples. There's a lot more information about my study if you follow the link, but I want to share some personal information that I'm otherwise not sharing in my research.
I have been researching pornography addiction for the last five years and I've found that no research I have come across applies to me, a queer cis woman who has recently been in a poly relationship and is interested in non-monogamy. I can't even imagine how many others are entirely unrepresented in this field of study, so it's my goal to help expand this research. There's only so much benefit research can have when focusing only on cis straight men and couples. So I'm here to really reach out to anyone who feels unrepresented in research of all kinds. I want to help you be seen!
There's a huge lack of research in how pornography affects people in non-monogamous relationships. I've learned that pornography is generally hard on monogamous relationships, but I'm wondering if non-monogamous partnerships experience the same difficulties.

Here's a link to my study https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1...4OMx31QJlp7eGtuXLjGs3Z4yxA/viewform#responses I welcome any feedback!

Thank you for your time!

I don't think you'll find a high effect size of female pornography use with this instrument. Your concept of pornography is limited and ill-defined. It doesn't capture what women actually use for sexual self-gratification. Investigating alternate forms of pornography might be more useful to you. Romantic fiction and boy's love comics can both be classed within the structure of self gratification tools.

Unpack the concept of pornography and I think you'll find that it isn't strictly pornography viewing, but self gratification that is the inverse correlate of relationship satisfaction. Pornography is just one tool of many people use to varying degrees as defined by their cultural identity. Questions regarding the individual act then are more likely to draw a generalizable result that isn't tempered by respondent bias.

I don't think your hypothesis is right. I think you are more likely to find evidence of an inverse correlation between poly relationship satisfaction and pornography use. I think your model shows bias in its treatment and understanding of core concepts that it relies on to support a deductive model. I think you'll find a larger effect size than is warranted, but that effect size will be indicative of the inherent bias of the construct.

I don't mean to be aggressively critical, and I'd really appreciate more research into this phenomenon, but I'd like to understand the model that you're investigating. I'd like to see if this study is designed inductively so that an effect size, if any, actually says something about poly relationships that is accurate, and supports progress into understanding how and why poly relationships exist. I don't think you've done that well. I'd really appreciate a bibliography defining your model of poly relationships. I think it would be helpful, and interesting to read.

Any links you can provide are welcome. My access to journals is limited. If there's a paywall I can't get past it. I have a university library nearby that is decent. It will contain most titles. But, again, access is limited and links are preferred.
 
Her focus is on porn and porn addiction...

Hi perpetualstudent,
Can you explain a bit more?

Where do you get the idea that self gratification is harmful to relationships? Why?

What do you think women use? Do you think women don't use porn? Do you think it varies between cis/trans or between bi/homo/hetero/pan/etc?

Do you think different tools can have different effects? Is the damage only to relationships or can it impact the person themselves?

What is your opinion on self gratification when not in a relationship?

What is your understanding and opinion of porn addiction?
 
Her focus is on porn and porn addiction...

Hi perpetualstudent,
Can you explain a bit more?

Where do you get the idea that self gratification is harmful to relationships? Why?

What do you think women use? Do you think women don't use porn? Do you think it varies between cis/trans or between bi/homo/hetero/pan/etc?

Do you think different tools can have different effects? Is the damage only to relationships or can it impact the person themselves?

What is your opinion on self gratification when not in a relationship?

What is your understanding and opinion of porn addiction?

That's quite a bit to take on, and I'll try but I'll have to do so quickly if you don't mind.

Think about how we know what we know and language, and how those two intertwine to make learning about something as personal as sex confusing. What I mean by that is we have to explore concepts rather than the loose tags that we use to talk about them. "What is pornography?" is more than just a philosophical question because without asking it in a way that informs our understanding of what we want to know, anything we do unearth will confuse rather than illuminate.

So, if a thing is what it does, as a hammer drives nails, or a car transports people and goods, what then is pornography? If we look at how it is used we can say that "Pornography is a tool of self gratification." This is potentially confusing as most people would not consider diapers to be pornographic though some people do use them as a tool of self gratification.

So a thing isn't just what it does, so we have to further refine our understanding of it. What other qualities does a thing have? A thing is how we can relate it to others. Well, pornography relates a story whose end result is sexual congress in the mind of the viewer and/or reader. This statement is then true of all pornography as some literature has been described as pornographic.

We'll skip ahead and say that pornography is a graphic depiction of a relationship whose goal is sexual congress to be used as a tool for self gratification.

By that description even some advertisements are pornographic, as when I was 12, the Sears Catalogue was some hot shit. So, we aren't really just looking at PornHub and whatnot. What we're really looking at is all the things that help individuals short-circuit the relationship obstacles to sexual congress.

This type of thinking has not entered into the literature regarding sex research. Some researchers are close, but none that I've found have actually got there. Because of this, I think we're still poking around in the dark with a stick and stumbling on the rocks.

The fact is that we don't know what tools most women use toward self gratification. When I say "know" I mean in the sense of reliable data gathered in validated studies that define generalizable rules of thumb.

What we can do is look at North American culture (I'm in North America) and attempt to generalize from there although there are problems with that approach. So, if we look at culture in general and ask what items might be used pornographically by women by what is promoted by culture as acceptable for women to use pornographically, we find fiction to be a glaring example. Recently the growth of romantic comics and boy's love comics specifically are being offered as a way for young women to explore their nascent sexuality safely from a distance. Romantic fiction is a staple of pornography-in-use.

We do know from research that while men are visual, women are more likely to use their imagination to create scenarios toward self-gratification. This supports the inclusion of media types that do not fit the layman's understanding of the term pornography.

Inductively, in these two areas I would expect to find high prevalence of use as tools of self-gratification that fits our tentative definition of pornography.

So, yes, I think women use romantic fiction, including movies, novels, and comics, with a specific attention to boy's love comics as pornography.

Let me say at this juncture that truth is in aggregate, and that's what we're looking for, the truth that is in aggregate. Though I know women who watch porn, I don't think the majority of women use porn. Tails exist inside every system, and I think this is often forgotten when media portrays science. It's like the unicorn. We know she exists though very few have seen one and a unicorn (hence the name) does not represent the majority of bi women.

On self-gratification and relationship satisfaction I can point to related studies on the use of pornography in men. Generally, pornography use inversely correlates with relationship satisfaction, meaning that self-gratification happens when one is not happy with their relationships. Said this way is almost begging for a head-desk moment when one realizes people actually spend tons of money to tease that truism out of masses of data.

I think this statement can be generalized to women as well, as several studies relating to objectification and self-objectification show that porn use correlates with objectification of others, and of the self.

Think of your biggest TV or movie crush. If you would sleep with your crush without a thought toward knowing the actual person instead of their media representation you're objectifying them and using them as a tool of self gratification. You're porning them.

On addiction. Addiction is a large subject and can be more easily understood if simplified into a bulleted statement. It's valuable to go over this now as it's important for other discussion below to understand the concepts presented here.

Addiction is an act which is instantly gratifying.
Addiction presents a simple behavioral tool as a coping mechanism.
Addiction supplants better mechanisms of adaptation.
Addiction prevents the growth of better mechanisms of adaptation.

Understood in this way, self gratification is not in itself bad for you. It only presents a problem when its use prevents further emotional growth and better adaptations toward the goal of a satisfying relationship.

When single, or even inside a relationship, self gratification can be a necessity for some. I think for most, really. I can't say for sure. It's dangerous to say that sex is a physical need, or even a psychological one because there are some unscrupulous sorts that would use that to justify rape which is never justified.

Self gratification reduces stress, nurtures positivity, self confidence, and self worth. It can be, and usually is a good thing. Only when it is used to cut off the pursuit of relationship satisfaction can it be a bad thing.

When we look at sex addiction, we have to understand what people are getting from it and how it impacts their lives, their ability to function and adapt to changes, and how sex can be detrimental. As a general rule of thumb, if the pursuit of sex replaces functional adaptations that promote growth, it is an addiction.

This is more easily understood in practical examination. Have you lost your job because of your pursuit of sex? Have you lost good friendships or relationships because of your pursuit of sex?

It's important to note that at least 53% of people, both male and female, have sex outside their primary relationship. Over 40% of people have sex inside their workplace. Are half of us sex addicts? No. The large majority of people are perfectly functional and have and maintain good relationships. While having illicit sex can be an indicator of a potential problem it is not specifically indicative of a problem.

It's confusing, I know, but social psychology is relative to others. How the self acts in a social system has to account for and be aware of the system in which the self acts. If the system is predominantly one that accepts sex as a natural and expected act, then the self must do so in order to maintain functionality inside that system.

Be aware I am not saying to go sleep with your boss/coworker/UPS guy. The system isn't that animalistic yet. Nor am I saying that cheating is acceptable. I am only saying that where addiction is concerned the functionality of the individual inside the system they live in is the only concern. If we were all greek gods I think ED and Sexual Dysfuction Disorders would be a much larger problem than they are now.

A word on differences in trans/gay/cis pornography uses. I really don't know as I haven't investigated it. I would expect the effect to be generalizable to a person's self-identified gender as culture plays a large role in porn selection.

One last note: I'm not an expert, just articulate. There are several researcher working in this field who know much more than I do about it and can answer questions more effectively.
 
Hi,

What interesting research you are doing. How exciting! You've probably already considered it, but pornography can be viewed as some to be a form of polyamory. I don't think it is, but let me explain the greyness.

When reading about affair recovery, there are some couples who feel hurt when their spouse views pornography. They feel betrayed, small, ugly and not worthy. The couple may have a religion that views pornography negatively or may believe that marriage means one partner for all their emotional, financial, social and physical needs. Viewing pornography for these people constitutes a betrayal of trust that can hurt the other partner in the same way an affair might.

The distinction between polyamory and swinging is said to be that polyamory is more about the emotional connection whilst swinging is more about sex, with a huge ton of gray in between. Hiring prostitutes purely for sex is further down that same spectrum. Viewing pornography can be seen as even further down the spectrum. We already have 3-D pornography (warning: not safe for work) with devices like the oculus rift, but the future is likely to blur reality and fantasy even further by hiring actors on the other end of the internet to act our your fantasy in real time whilst you see and explore them in 3-D. You may not have to pay a cent, with the content paid for entirely by ads. Would this still be considered prostitution or phone sex?

In the end, if a couple has boundaries or vows that are broken, then trust is lost due to betrayal. Sex is often seen as the ultimate betrayal and trust broken between a couple for the gain of a romantic third hurts deepest. Viewing pornography involves opening up sexually to a third person, usually a very sexually appealing person that can make your partner feel insignificant and insecure. Many monogamous couples probably don't admit to viewing pornography with their partners because of this. They may even use a Don't Ask Don't Tell mentality when it comes to pornography.

Just food for thought. And probably food that you've already thought of before, but I couldn't resist sharing. Thanks for reading.

I love all of your insight!

Part of why I want to pursue research in pornography is because of how quickly technology is advancing and inevitably blurring those lines between reality and fantasy even further. Technology in general is advancing exponentially, but I'm so interested in figuring out how to catch up with it in research so we can figure out how to stop and reverse negative effects of it. I'm really intrigued by how VR porn is going to affect users and how they view real-life partners. I'm really interested in showing single people VR porn while hooked up to an EEG and then then showing them real-world potential partners (like people off of Tinder or OKC or amateur porn, even) just to see how this realistic porn affects their views of people who are actually potentially attainable partners.

Also, I have been that partner in the past who viewed pornography as cheating. I've definitely come a long way in life since then! I'm mentioning this because I have definitely considered this in my research, but I haven't considered how partners could view porn use as polyamory in their relationships. That's a really interesting way to look at it!

If you want to keep in touch and talk about pornography, sexuality, etc., please feel free to contact me - my emails can be found in the first part of my survey.
 
Greetings Kelsie,
Welcome to our forum. Please feel free to lurk, browse, etc.

I participated in your survey, it wasn't hard to do. My first thought was that I don't view pornography anymore these days, but then it occurred to me that I often visit FetLife, where seeing pornography is just about inevitable. In the past I have viewed pornography more intentionally, but I don't think it damaged me per se.

Hope that helps.
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Thank you!

I realized after distributing my survey that I didn't provide an option for people to say that they don't really use pornography. There's definitely been A LOT of issues with my survey, but I've learned a lot about how to make a more effective survey in the future.
And I think it's good that pornography didn't damage you in any way. That's important input. I don't think porn is necessarily damaging. If I were to go back in time to when I first chose my capstone research project topic, I think I would have had an emphasis on pornography and communication/openness instead of just general effects.
 
It is an interesting topic.
 
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