New to poly-- failed triad

QueenLotusDawn

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How shall I begin? My partner and I discussed us both wanting to explore dating another woman. We'd both tried this in our last serious relationships, only for it to not work out. We were intrigued by the fact that we were on the same page. We discussed this for months and then we decided to open ourselves and our relationship up. For the sake of privacy, let’s call my partner Sally, and the woman we met Dolly.

Dolly approached Sally at an event and Sally told her that she was in a relationship, but that we were friendly. Dolly and I spoke, exchanged numbers, and she eventually reached out a few days later. Sally and I discussed meeting Dolly. She told me she got friendship energy from her, and perhaps she and I could be friends. When Dolly called me, we discussed that and she was on board.

For a month we were friends. We went out as a group one time and she admitted to being attracted to both of us. We hung out on NYE and things got a little frisky between Dolly and me. Sally wasn’t quite ready. However, Sally was intrigued and wanted to explore it more. I was excited!!

The three of us communicated a lot. Dolly had experience in poly relationships, so she opened our eyes to consider different aspects of poly and what that would mean for our relationship. It was definitely a learning curve, more so for me than the two of them. Dolly was really patient, allowing both of us, mainly me, to slowly become more comfortable with solo dates and solo intimacy.

The intimacy between the three of us was amazing. Dolly and I being over-thinkers, we communicated very well, to make sure everyone was comfortable and flowing with ease when we were all intimate. And we were able to achieve that! It was absolutely amazing, wonderful!! Dolly was very attentive and affectionate with me and Sally. Sally took a little time to get comfortable with affection and PDAs, as she was worried she would offend me.

I encouraged her to be open. I was ready for them to go on a solo date so they could connect better. I wanted Sally to feel what I felt with Dolly. Later, Dolly and I went on a solo date. It was so beautiful! I would get overwhelmed with emotions and love and that would bring me to tears from the joy and love I felt from both of them.

Sally eventually opened up completely and she and Dolly fell hard. "I love you" was being said by all three of us, and we even had discussions about what life could be like in the future with the three of us together.

Dolly came upon some hardships in her personal life and of course we had nothing but compassion and empathy and open arms for her. It wasn’t until then that I noticed Sally and Dolly had a much stronger connection than Dolly and I did. Sally never made me feel anything less than before.

Selfishly on my part, I felt jealousy. This jealousy was because I wanted to feel that same connection I had with Dolly when I was feeling all of this overwhelming love. I also have generalized anxiety and anxious-attachment issues, so seeing Dolly's very intimate and non-sexual ways with Sally made me miss Dolly so much more. I am not the best at communicating my feelings, and I also tend to think that any negative feelings I have in a situation are not right. It wasn’t easy for my mind to compute when I was feeling jealousy, as it computed it as “not being enough."

So, I began therapy to help me through this. I was also working through some emotions between me and Sally, completely separate of Dolly. Therapy is working. I’m currently still in therapy.

I discussed where I was mentally and what I wanted from our triad relationship. What I was hoping for was some more patience, as I am growing and learning myself through this different relationship dynamic. I have monogamy pretty good, but polyamory is still very new to me. I am learning a lot about this relationship dynamic and about myself.

As I said before, Dolly is an overthinker, like me. There are times when she thinks that my behavior is due in part to her being with Sally. To be fair, sometimes, maybe most of the time, it is.

I was getting better at communicating. I was also getting better at self-soothing. In the end, she took some actions and read that as me being in my feelings about their deep, past-life connection, which wasn’t the case at all.

We were all in the bed together. I tend to overheat. I took matters into my own hands to cool my body temperature down by getting from under the comforter we were sharing and lying on top of it with a lighter blanket. Not feeling any jealousy however, my anxious mind was telling me that something was wrong with me, asking: why is my body so hot? Why am I not able to cuddle? I communicated that I wished I could cuddle with them, but I just couldn’t.

Dolly was able to read energy. However, I believe it was misinterpreted, as she was overthinking herself. She took this as me lying because I said I was OK, but I was not, according to her perception. This made her feel like she needed to run away. She packed her bags early that morning and kissed us both goodbye. It wasn’t until later on that day that I knew how she felt.

I spoke with Sally about how I was feeling, as far as my connection with Dolly. In a private conversation with Sally, in order to describe how I was feeling, I stated it felt like friends with benefits. Unfortunately, in a private conversation, where Dolly was expressing to Sally about how she was feeling about me, how she felt I'd betrayed her trust, that I was a liar, and that I was not ready for polyamory, Sally told her what I said, which was more or less the nail in the coffin.

I hurt Dolly. It was never my intention. I was also told I was being selfish for even wanting to build or get back to our deeper connection because during these tough times she only wanted Sally, for the most part.

I was working on how I felt, right, wrong, or indifferent. I didn’t want to share what I said with Sally. I wanted to have a conversation with Dolly, but I wanted to talk to Sally first, just to see and get another perspective. I realize how wrong that was, in itself.

But here we are five days later, and my connection with Dolly is irreparable. I triggered her and she triggered me. She is a very angry person and likes to yell and talk over me, and that is a boundary.

I was able to see how I hurt her. Despite my intentions, I understand that no matter what, I hurt her, and I should make it right. I have expressed my sincerest apologies. We had a discussion that was a lot calmer. Unfortunately, she has a misconception about me, that this whole time, I have been calculating and doing things intentionally to make her feel bad and to garner more attention from Sally. She also feels that I am jealous and I want Sally to myself, when I have expressed numerous times it’s not the case. I wanted more of Dolly, what we had, and I thought expressing that, even with everything that she had going on, there could possibly be a discussion. But she already has certain ideas and a certain perception of me that was clouded.

Sally and I have had many of discussions, both heated and not heated, about how to move forward, as she is in love with Dolly. It is very hard accepting that.

However, I am learning. I am listening to podcasts, reading articles, reading books, watching YouTube and different videos to grasp a better understanding of how the dynamics of polyamory are. As I write this today, I feel a bit more at ease because I have more information and because I have had more assurance from Sally.

Right now, I do not want to open myself up to dating another person, as I am still healing from the deterioration of my connection with Dolly. However, I do look forward to the time when I feel I’m ready to open myself up to make new connections. So from now, and until then, when that time comes and the universe aligns for me to meet that special woman, I will continue to learn all I can and continue with therapy.

I really needed to get all of that off my chest. I am not able to talk to friends about this because they may not quite understand. I am excited to be able to find this community with a forum, and I would love feedback.

Peace and blessings.
 
I think it's okay if a triad consists of you and Sally being "life partners," Sally and Dolly being "partners," and you and Dolly being "FWBs." I think that's realistic and more like the triad experiences that I've had.

I live with one partner, and that partner has a partner who lives with us some of the time. I'm really close to that other partner and we have some "intimate involvement." We definitely share a level of independent companionship from our hinge partner. We operate more and more as a three in every functional way. I just rarely have 1v1 sexual interaction with my metamour and we've never formalised ourselves as a triad, per se.

However, if we were forced to choose between whether it's a triad or not-a-triad, I think we would all pick a triad, a triangle with lines of different lengths and widths.
 
I think it's okay if a triad consists of you and Sally being "life partners," Sally and Dolly being "partners," and you and Dolly being "FWBs." I think that's realistic and more like the triad experiences I've had.

I live with one partner, and that partner has a partner who lives with us some of the time. I'm really close to that other partner and we have some "intimate involvement." We definitely share a level of independent companionship from our hinge partner. We operate more and more as a three in every functional way. I've just rarely have 1v1 sexual interaction with my metamour and we've never formalised ourselves as a triad, per se.

However, if we were forced to choose between whether it's triad or not a triad, I think we would all pick a triad, a triangle with lines of different lengths and widths.
I don’t see anything wrong with that either. But now Dolly is hurt and needs time, she says. Hopefully that will change, as Sally expresses to me that she is working to get her back to us. I believe what I needed was a conversation where we were all heard, knowing I don’t mean any ill will and a compromise was met, even for all of us. Also just having the understanding that even though I have moments where I’m having a hard time, I’m trying.
 
Hello QueenLotusDawn,

I'm sorry things did not work out between you and Dolly. It sounds like Sally still wants to continue her relationship with Dolly and that is hard for you. You are wanting to make some more connections in the future, but first you need to get some healing from this breakup.

You are doing some research. Hopefully you know that you and Sally don't both have to date the same person. You can have an N (or a Z). And if you do date the same person, you don't both have to have the same level of love/passion for that person. It is okay if one of you has a deeper connection with that person than the other, although this probably wouldn't have worked in the you/Sally/Dolly triad.

Maybe that triad can reform? It sounds like Sally is trying to bring Dolly back in. It would be nice if at least Dolly could feel that you are sincere in your intentions.

Sympathy and regards,
Kevin T.
 
Thank you! Yes I have more of an understanding that we don’t have to date the same person. Sally definitely wants to bring Dolly back in and I am understanding that this triad will be reformed if we continue. It won’t be the same as it was and I am okay with that. Yes indeed! It would be nice if Dolly could feel the my intentions are sincere. I just want to get back to where Sally is not placed in the middle anymore.
 
That makes sense, that would be a more ideal situation. It would be good if you and Dolly could directly work out any problems you had with each other.
 
I'm glad you feel better for having found this board and getting it all off your chest.

It sounds like you started things well with Dolly, knowing each dyad in the triad needed its own space and time to grow. But somehow when you got overheated sharing a bed, things started to get weird. I don't quite understand that. People are allowed to overheat and try to cool themselves off! (My bf is such a hot sleeper, I need to put a pillow between us to keep him from sweating on me, and it's just the two of us in bed haha)

Then things went all wonky for you all, and Dolly seemed to start to triangulate and take sides; then you shared something with Sally about Dolly, which Sally went and told to Dolly without your permission; then Dolly began to get upset and talked over you and placed her own spin on your motivations.

I hope this was just part of the "getting to know you" phase of your relationships. It's early times yet. Remember, a triad is three dyads stacked on top of each other. Both of your lovers are also your metamours. Triads are MUCH harder to do than Vs. That's why most people don't attempt them at all.

I have tried to do triads 2 or 3 times, and I did find it difficult to be a lover of two people, while they were FWBs with each other. I didn't find it fun or sustainable. I've made a point ever since not to attempt any kind of triad again.

Maybe you can get back with Dolly, even if her feelings for Sally are stronger, and maybe you can't. Either way, you know you can date independently from Sally and probably have an easier time of it.

You said you've been reading. I wonder if you've read Opening Up or Polysecure? There is also a good podcast called Multiamory.
 
I'm glad you feel better for having found this board and getting it all off your chest.

It sounds like you started things well with Dolly, knowing each dyad in the triad needed its own space and time to grow. But somehow when you got overheated sharing a bed, things started to get weird. I don't quite understand that. People are allowed to overheat and try to cool themselves off! (My bf is such a hot sleeper, I need to put a pillow between us to keep him from sweating on me, and it's just the two of us in bed haha)

Then things went all wonky for you all, and Dolly seemed to start to triangulate and take sides; then you shared something with Sally about Dolly, which Sally went and told to Dolly without your permission; then Dolly began to get upset and talked over you and placed her own spin on your motivations.

I hope this was just part of the "getting to know you" phase of your relationships. It's early times yet. Remember, a triad is three dyads stacked on top of each other. Both of your lovers are also your metamours. Triads are MUCH harder to do than Vs. That's why most people don't attempt them at all.

I have tried to do triads 2 or 3 times, and I did find it difficult to be a lover of two people, while they were FWBs with each other. I didn't find it fun or sustainable. I've made a point ever since not to attempt any kind of triad again.

Maybe you can get back with Dolly, even if her feelings for Sally are stronger, and maybe you can't. Either way, you know you can date independently from Sally and probably have an easier time of it.

You said you've been reading. I wonder if you've read Opening Up or Polysecure? There is also a good podcast called Multiamory.
I am currently listening to Polysecure. I will definitely check out the other book and the podcast.

Yes, you hit the nail on the head! That’s exactly what happened. Her spin on things is what is making any true reconciliation difficult. I am open, while she is not.

You made some good points I hadn't thought about.

Sally really believes we could be a happy triad again, but it that would require everyone to be open to listen and compromise. I see why triads are challenging. I am willing to be FWBs with Dolly. We just haven’t yet got to that point, because she still needs time.

Sally tells me Dolly misses me and loves me, but I would like to hear that from Dolly. Sally feels that Dolly is slowly coming around and says I should give her time.

In the meantime, I am constantly reminded of Dolly because Sally is still connected to her. I am giving space for that, but it’s hard because I’m hurt.

When it comes to me dating independently, Sally has a hard time with that. We talked about it. Sally is masc-presenting. Although I am interested in both feminine- and masculine-presenting women, I would most likely attract a masc, and Sally has expressed that that would be hard for her.

With all that I’m learning, I explained that this is was polyamory is. We agreed to cross that bridge if/when we come to it
 
I am currently listening to Polysecure. I will definitely check out the other book and the podcast.

Good. Just a heads-up that Opening Up is from 2008, so there are just a couple sexist/racist outmoded examples. Some might call them micro-aggressions, but it was a sign of the times I hope most people can make allowances for. The book still has great value.

(The Bible is full of outmoded ideas and people still buy it and use it. haha ... Anyway...!)
Yes, you hit the nail on the head! That’s exactly what happened. Her spin on things is what is making any true reconciliation difficult. I am open, while she is not.

You made some good points I hadn't thought about.

Sally really believes we could be a happy triad again, but it that would require everyone to be open to listen and compromise. I see why triads are challenging. I am willing to be FWBs with Dolly. We just haven’t yet got to that point, because she still needs time.
I think it's fine to back off a bit. Try not to let Sally think she needs to be a full-on mediator/negotiator. Any relationship between Dolly and you should be just that, between the two of you. Maybe take a month or so of no contact, and sincerely ask Sally not to bring you up at all to Dolly. A hinge can't force a (platonic) relationship between the legs of the V, and that shouldn't happen in a (potential) triad either.
Sally tells me Dolly misses me and loves me, but I would like to hear that from Dolly.
Right.
Sally feels that Dolly is slowly coming around and says I should give her time.
Okay. Leave it at that for now, for 30-40 days. Give things a chance to cool down. Maybe then you will want to reach out to Dolly on your own.
In the meantime, I am constantly reminded of Dolly because Sally is still connected to her. I am giving space for that, but it’s hard because I’m hurt.
Yes, I can see how that would hurt. It is definitely one of the drawbacks of attempting a triad, that awkwardness.
When it comes to me dating independently, Sally has a hard time with that. We talked about it. Sally is masc-presenting. Although I am interested in both feminine- and masculine-presenting women, I would most likely attract a masc, and Sally has expressed that that would be hard for her.
Oh... We often see that with cis males who don't want their female partners to date other men, but say it's okay if they date women. With cis guys we call it a one-penis policy, or OPP. We generally ask men who are feeling this way to examine deeply their ideas around this, their feelings, their buried misogyny. What exactly is the threat, the fear? Sally is masc, so another masc would be more likely to steal you away, since they'd offer exactly what Sally does, whereas a femme would be offering something completely different? That's kind of putting people in boxes. Not every masc-presenting woman is the same as every other, of course. If Sally is seeing a queer-friendly, poly-friendly therapist, she could probably work through this fairly quickly. Otherwise, you're between a rock and a hard place, as far as poly goes.

I recall that Opening Up addresses OPPs. I am not sure if Polysecure does. I still need to read that one.
With all that I’m learning, I explained that this is was polyamory is. We agreed to cross that bridge if/when we come to it
Put a pin in it. :)
 
Good. Just a heads-up that Opening Up is from 2008, so there are just a couple sexist/racist outmoded examples. Some might call them micro-aggressions, but it was a sign of the times I hope most people can make allowances for. The book still has great value.

(The Bible is full of outmoded ideas and people still buy it and use it. haha ... Anyway...!)

I think it's fine to back off a bit. Try not to let Sally think she needs to be a full-on mediator/negotiator. Any relationship between Dolly and you should be just that, between the two of you. Maybe take a month or so of no contact, and sincerely ask Sally not to bring you up at all to Dolly. A hinge can't force a (platonic) relationship between the legs of the V, and that shouldn't happen in a (potential) triad either.

Right.

Okay. Leave it at that for now, for 30-40 days. Give things a chance to cool down. Maybe then you will want to reach out to Dolly on your own.

Yes, I can see how that would hurt. It is definitely one of the drawbacks of attempting a triad, that awkwardness.

Oh... We often see that with cis males who don't want their female partners to date other men, but say it's okay if they date women. With cis guys we call it a one-penis policy, or OPP. We generally ask men who are feeling this way to examine deeply their ideas around this, their feelings, their buried misogyny. What exactly is the threat, the fear? Sally is masc, so another masc would be more likely to steal you away, since they'd offer exactly what Sally does, whereas a femme would be offering something completely different? That's kind of putting people in boxes. Not every masc-presenting woman is the same as every other, of course. If Sally is seeing a queer-friendly, poly-friendly therapist, she could probably work through this fairly quickly. Otherwise, you're between a rock and a hard place, as far as poly goes.

I recall that Opening Up addresses OPPs. I am not sure if Polysecure does. I still need to read that one.

Put a pin in it. :)
Thank you so much for your advice and input. Sally stayed the night with Dolly last night for the second time. It feels weird that I’m kinda getting used to the idea of missing her and her being with another woman. I think often about exploring on my own.. i moved to another state to be with her. I have a couple family members here and outside of her family I don’t have my support system here so I gotta find my tribe ☺️
 
Ooh what are they?
Someone that was new here said there were some issues, so I went to Amazon and looked at reviews. I remember one was that when white interviewees spoke on a topic, their skin color wasn't mentioned, but when Black people expressed opinions, their skin color was mentioned. So, white seemed to be the default.

I don't remember the sexist bits. You should be able to check the reviews and find out.
 
Someone that was new here said there were some issues, so I went to Amazon and looked at reviews. I remember one was that when white interviewees spoke on a topic, their skin color wasn't mentioned, but when Black people expressed opinions, their skin color was mentioned. So, white seemed to be the default.

I don't remember the sexist bits. You should be able to check the reviews and find out.
Ohhhh that’s interesting
 
Update: The triad came back together and Dolly and I were on a friendly level with some intimacy. I say “were” because now I have opted out of the triad.

There was a block between Dolly and me that prevented us from connecting. Although I was feeling it, I was really patient with it.

Recently we celebrated Dolly’s birthday with a very romantic weekend in a hotel. Our intimacy that weekend was very awkward. What happened was, Dolly had a conversation with Sally, expressing that she was not ready for the three of us to be intimate together. At the time, I was not aware of this conversation. While we were in the hotel room, Sally and I planned for all of us to be intimate. She told me to go put on my lingerie. So when Dolly came out of the bathroom, essentially we were there waiting for her. This was very awkward for Dolly. She expressed that even when attempting to be intimate with us, it bothered her and she felt jealousy when she would see us kiss. She'd tried to push through and get over her feelings of awkwardness and jealousy, but to no avail. What ended up happening is that they were intimate while I was not involved. Also, I have been feeling some distance between Sally and me. We aren’t as romantic and intimate as before.

I plan to have a conversation with both of them because I realize communicating directly is what’s important. But Sally came to me first to ask if I was okay and if there was anything I needed to talk about. So I took that time to express and told her that I would definitely talk to Dolly about it. This took a turn when she began to ask if I had 1 foot in and 1 foot out. I later found out the reason she'd asked that question was because Dolly felt like I had 1 foot in and 1 foot out, based off of a conversation the three of us had a week prior. And this is where things get pretty messy…

I asked Sally if we could have a conversation when she got off the phone with Dolly so we could decide what we were going to do to fix our relationship. This is where we decided that we needed to focus on the two of us dating, as well. A lot of attention had been placed on Dolly. The following day, Sally and Dolly were on the phone having a heated conversation. They called me into it. I came into their conversation. (Well, actually it was an argument.) The argument was about Sally getting off the phone with Dolly in order to have a conversation with me, and she didn’t like that. Although the conversation was pretty heated between the two of them, I remained very calm. I was able to express how I felt about us in the hotel and said that we should try to connect sexually and just focus on being friends, because now things were feeling forced and was not fun and flowing anymore.

I also told her about Sally and Ann’s conversation when they got off the phone and told her that we concluded that Sally and I needed to date more and reconnect our intimacy. Dolly was supportive of that, but admitted that knowing that Sally and I would be on a date or connecting made her jealous and she was deciding that she needed to take a break because she knew that she shouldn’t feel that way.

Sally was upset about this and got off the phone. We talked after that and she said it was just her being upset. She told me about a lot of private conversations that she and Dolly were having about me and confirmed my feelings that since our last separation, she still wanted Sally to herself. Sally said a lot of things in regards to how she was noticing that Dolly was trying to come in between our relationship and have her to herself.

Of course, I reacted. While I was still trying to make this work, it was a huge red flag for me.

The following day, Sally wanted to take back everything she said, because she said things out of anger because she was triggered. There is a huge part of me that understands people say things they don’t mean out of anger, but I know there is some truth to what she is saying. I know she wouldn’t make it all up and I can’t get that out of my head. I honestly and truly feel that Dolly wants Sally to herself and in essence wants me out of the picture, as she expressed her jealousy about me being the one that goes to family events, and she would like to be in that position as well.

She came over and we had a conversation. My conversation was definitely fueled by anger because I felt and I feel like both of them put me on a rollercoaster of emotions, saying things out of anger and wanting to take them back, with Dolly expressing her jealousy and her wanting Sally to herself. They are constantly bickering back and forth with one another. It’s draining.

The conversation did not go well. As we were discussing things, Dolly began to gaslight me. Although I was upset, I really wanted to be validated and to have her want to fix things and work things out between the two of us, to not get defensive and care for me as her partner, to be concerned with wanting to repair things. However, she got extremely defensive. She invalidated my feelings, and began to gaslight me, saying she didn’t say/do things.

I am officially done with attempting any connection between Dolly and me. The two of them are still dating.

Now I am confused as to what to do. Sally and I still need to work on our relationship. She now has to navigate that we are no longer a triad and now we are a V. If I could have my way, I would not want Dolly in our lives. I feel that she is not supportive or happy for Sally's and my relationship. I can’t shake the feeling that ultimately she wants me out of the picture.
 
Hi QueenLotusDawn,

Thank you for the update. It sounds like things went badly in your triad, and now even though things are a V, they're still going badly. I'm sorry to hear that. Can you have a parallel poly situation where you never have to see or even hear about Dolly? That might be the best for you. And you do have to tend to what's best for you, as Sally and Dolly are not doing that for you. Does Sally know that Dolly wants you out of the picture?

Sympathetically,
Kevin T.
 
Yes we can have a parallel poly situation and I agree that is what’s best for me. Sally vocalized that she noticed past conversations where it seemed like Dolly may have been trying to triangulate and cause Sally to see me in a negative light… however Sally took back everything she said and said she didn’t mean any of it, and honestly I believe there is some truth in it because she said it unprovoked and it has been something in the back of my mind and she confirmed it.

Now there is a chance that Dolly may need to stay with us for at least a month until her apartment is ready. Even though things didn’t work out between us I don’t hate her and I feel bad and don’t want to see her on the street. It will be very awkward
 
I would absolutely go parallel. You work on your relationship with Sally only. Let Sally deal with Dolly. I have a feeling this won't last long anyway because Dolly's jealousy will turn her into an unattractive partner, especially if she likes to gaslight.

Let Sally know that you don't want to hear about Dolly any more and anything Dolly has to say about you is completely off limits. Same goes for you, do not talk about Dolly at all. Once both relationships ( you+ Sally and Sally+Dolly) are going strong then you can entertain casual encounters.

I hear that Dolly needs a place to stay for a month, but now is not the time. You care about her but this incident was big and you all need time to process, move past it and develop security in your relationships first. Doing this short term move in might be the catalyst that ends your relationships because all of those thoughts and feelings are too strong and present. See if there's another way you can help Dolly for that month. Maybe she can rent a room elsewhere. If she's short on cash, maybe you and Sally help her out that way. It's just horrible timing to let her stay with you
 
I would absolutely go parallel. You work on your relationship with Sally only. Let Sally deal with Dolly. I have a feeling this won't last long anyway because Dolly's jealousy will turn her into an unattractive partner, especially if she likes to gaslight.

Let Sally know that you don't want to hear about Dolly any more and anything Dolly has to say about you is completely off limits. Same goes for you, do not talk about Dolly at all. Once both relationships ( you+ Sally and Sally+Dolly) are going strong then you can entertain casual encounters.

I hear that Dolly needs a place to stay for a month, but now is not the time. You care about her but this incident was big and you all need time to process, move past it and develop security in your relationships first. Doing this short term move in might be the catalyst that ends your relationships because all of those thoughts and feelings are too strong and present. See if there's another way you can help Dolly for that month. Maybe she can rent a room elsewhere. If she's short on cash, maybe you and Sally help her out that way. It's just horrible timing to let her stay with you
I definitely agree it’s horrible timing for her to stay with us. And I like the idea that we both help how we can financially to get an Air bnb or something.

I have the same feeling as you that her jealousy would soon work against her as she has expressed it so strongly that I don’t believe it’s going anywhere anytime soon. And yes I do not bring Dolly up but sally does and I need to perhaps communicate with her to try not to bring her up. It’s usually in passing and very casual but it doesn’t matter. And for sure ask her to divert any conversations pertaining to me to be more about herself and their connection.
 
I would absolutely go parallel. You work on your relationship with Sally only. Let Sally deal with Dolly. I have a feeling this won't last long anyway because Dolly's jealousy will turn her into an unattractive partner, especially if she likes to gaslight.

Let Sally know that you don't want to hear about Dolly any more and anything Dolly has to say about you is completely off limits. Same goes for you, do not talk about Dolly at all. Once both relationships ( you+ Sally and Sally+Dolly) are going strong then you can entertain casual encounters.

I hear that Dolly needs a place to stay for a month, but now is not the time. You care about her but this incident was big and you all need time to process, move past it and develop security in your relationships first. Doing this short term move in might be the catalyst that ends your relationships because all of those thoughts and feelings are too strong and present. See if there's another way you can help Dolly for that month. Maybe she can rent a room elsewhere. If she's short on cash, maybe you and Sally help her out that way. It's just horrible timing to let her stay with you
Also I like the way you put it about Dolly and I entertaining casual encounters once they are strong and so are Sally and I. That is something I will communicate
 
I am lost, hurt and confused. I brought up me exploring polyamory by being open to dating and Sally completely and vehemently shut it down. I feel like I am going to lose my relationship over this. I really need some advice.
 
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