Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

While I was living in Santa Fe, a non-skeevy adult toyshop opened in Minneapolis (the artsy Uptown area, of course), The Smitten Kitten. (poor design warning: will try to load many megabytes of images on your first visit.)

That got me to thinking: while the corner TV/radio repair shop is a thing of the past, maybe there's a market for repairing peoples' fave toys...? After all, some of those things are spendy -- why throw out a Hitachi just because of a worn-out switch or busted wire (& so many replacements are cheezy Chinese counterfeits anyway)? And some are veritable works of art.

Well, the logistics were just too much -- like needing to either sterlilize 'em or do electrical work wearing surgical gloves -- to make it any sort of business, even part-time.

However, I do know of an instructable about fixing battery vibrators, which the DIY sort might find useful.

And if all else fails, you might get a dollar or two from Sustainable Pleasure, a sex-toy recycler. ;)
 
Yeah...

So the funny of it was, I went to Thunder in the Mountains, and Midori taught a class on scarf bondage. The first cool trick she showed us (seriously it was awesome) was how to create a strap-on harness out of 2 scarves. It only takes a minute, it fits you perfect because it's custom-tied to your body, and adjustable of course, and scarves can be tossed in the laundry.

BRILLIANT.

Then I realized...this could be a harness for a Hitachi, or similar, wand...which opens up some really cool possibilities for scenes with my lovers, dontcha know?

Very exciting. So I'm getting ready for a gathering at Voodoo Monday night after the convention, and I'm gonna show people this cool trick I've learned, but I don't own a strap-on or similar (I actually have few toys of my own, they cost a lot) and so I'm gonna take Zeus, my wand, which like several of my toys is also e-stim. I love electricity! So I'm getting ready to go, and I want to test run the deal first, I get my wand all tied in place to see how it works, and because what the hell, while I'm there (this is outside of my clothes mind you) I push the buttons to turn it on.

Wow, hey, yeah that IS a good idea! Sweet!! So I go to turn it off...and...it won't turn off... And it's strapped onto my body, and it won't turn off. Yeah, I did get it untied, and popped a battery to take care of that and all, but you know it sure felt like the universe was playing a joke on me...

I might seriously have to check out that DIY site with regard to my vibe, Nikola, though. It was expensive, and a favorite. It basically is like doing electric impulse caused kegels, like how Bruce Lee had that muscle stimulating apparatus?...only for the v-jay. Pretty neat.
 
I have a few questions about electro toys. ;) When I was publicly active, about all we had were vibes & violet wands -- TENS units were prescription-only & grey-market at best.

But back to politics a moment.

Watching news clips, I keep feeling as though MIKE PENCE

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is actually doing his impression of how WILL FERRELL

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would do an impression of MAX HEADROOM

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Really -- it's impossible for me to watch the guy without expecting it'll turn out to be a Saturday Night Live skit.

GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE -- Clinton is four points ahead of Trump in freakin' GEORGIA, where the GOP may possibly lose ALL seats at state & Fed levels.

Another factoid: Trump is polling 1% of African-Americans... the lowest EVER for a POTUS candidate.

Trump remains ahead ONLY among (not kidding) uneducated trailer-trash white males. Change ANY of those factors & Clinton is favored. I guess he's going for the "oxy-addicted gun-owning permanently unemployed" vote, kinda like The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia -- for me, Mousie White's screen time kinda summed it all up.
she is shown being released from prison, locating her estranged husband, and convincing him to renew his vows with her in a Walmart flower department. Both were admittedly high on hydrocodone and alprazolam when they decided to renew their vows.
A huge problem with such a base is that nobody else wants to be associated with these morons, even the neighbors.
 
US politics is bonkers. My friends and I watch whatever debate is being televised and laugh and laugh and laugh as our PM is busy walking in Pride parades, gleefully declaring himself a feminist, unmuzzling government scientists (and FUNDING them, meaning I get to keep my job!), supporting green initiatives and sustainable technologies, improving government transparency, revamping the voting process, increasing funding and availability of early childhood care, relieving student debt pressures, doubling funding to the Council for Arts (meaning I get to keep my other job!), re-funding public broadcasting, welcoming refugees and immigrants, increasing supports to indigenous communities and veterans, and starting the process of nationally legalizing (or, at least decriminalizing) marijuana... all with fantastic hair.

By all little mooses everywhere, I love Trudeau <3
 
US politics is bonkers. My friends and I watch whatever debate is being televised and laugh and laugh and laugh as our PM is busy walking in Pride parades, gleefully declaring himself a feminist, unmuzzling government scientists (and FUNDING them, meaning I get to keep my job!), supporting green initiatives and sustainable technologies, improving government transparency, revamping the voting process, increasing funding and availability of early childhood care, relieving student debt pressures, doubling funding to the Council for Arts (meaning I get to keep my other job!), re-funding public broadcasting, welcoming refugees and immigrants, increasing supports to indigenous communities and veterans, and starting the process of nationally legalizing (or, at least decriminalizing) marijuana... all with fantastic hair.

Fantastic everything! Hair, face, body-ody!

By all little mooses everywhere, I love Trudeau <3

So envious! So so envious. For a minute, we had a dream of that happening here with Bernie. And it was a beautiful dream we woke up from, to the nightmare of Trump and his minions and followers. The horror.

I understand you all laughing. It is funny, if it wasn't so scary.
 
For whatever it's worth, I feel like the US could have had it pretty sweet with Obama if the opposition got their heads outta their bums. Canadians (IME) were generally pro-Obama, and were a bit baffled by the whole "lets not allow Obama do anything constructive" thing that seemed to be going on.

Not that we can talk about bad political choices. We voted in Harper (for whatever ungodly reason) faaar longer than we should have. Ugh. The man is a cyborg as far as I am concerned. Mreep mroop let-no-scientist-speak-out-against-government-positions mreep mroop.

If you didn't know, ex-PM Steven Harper has a band. It's gloriously bad. He plays the keyboard with the expected amount of discomfort and stiffness, with a side of awkward smile... All while wearing those damn sweater vests.
 
I had some concern about Obama, and it's a common concern I've got with the left in general in the United States.

The main top campaign contributor for Obama was the same for his opponent, it was Goldman-Sachs. And my trust issues are that the final two contenders, in every presidential race I've seen in my life, are puppets and the same hands pull the strings. That every other difference is lies and trickery.

For the first time...I actually do not suspect that of ONE of our options. Unfortunately, he is showing us what "WORSE THAN A WALL STREET PUPPET" looks like. Maybe that was the point?

Looking at Obama though... He came out with a program for loan modification that was supposed to bail out distressed homeowners. I had a few friends try to do this. Each of them got absolutely SCREWED. One described her story to me in detail:

She was one month behind, on her house payment, but couldn't get caught up. So she contacted her lender (Bank of America) about loan modification under "Obama's new hope plan thing" and they went and did the paperwork. She was to make regular payments each month during her "trial period" and afterwards she would be fully approved and her loan would be modified and all would be well.

9 months passed, and she made her payments on time each of them.

And she got a letter saying that her modification was DENIED and that she was now 10 months behind on her regular mortgage payments, payable immediately and if she didn't pay up, foreclosure would commence.

???

What about those "trial period" payments? In the amount of her mortgage and paid on time each month? Where did that money go? "Let me transfer you to another department." "I'm sorry, ma'am, we'll have to open an inquiry and get back to you." "I'm sorry, we don't have any record of that."

She lost her home.

Then there is Obamacare. When I was about 20, pregnant and having my babies, I was dirt poor. I did use public assistance for a bit, including Medicaid. At that time, in the late 90's/early 2000's...the insurance I got was great, but I only qualified as a pregnant woman. Later, our children benefited even though I didn't, and eventually as I became gainfully employed, none of us qualified anymore.

So you could get decent help...if you met the criteria. And in some states, that was not easy. Most people with a job couldn't get help, and if you had no children, you could forget about it.

Well, it is my understanding that in some states (again Obamacare is administered by the states and not the federal government, although it's the IRS that will fine you THOUSANDS on your taxes if you don't have insurance coverage)...in some states, Obamacare has allowed poor folk, low earners and childless, to get coverage. The rich already had whatever plans they had or could afford to pay out the arse for new ones. Some of us are lucky enough that our employers still cover us.

But any middle class person especially if they are self employed, is gonna have a HARD time of it. Because the Affordable Healthcare Act does not in fact guarantee "affordable" healthcare to everybody. There are huge classes of people who can't afford coverage at all. And now they have to pay a huge tax penalty if they don't.

I personally am ready for everyone to have the same health coverage. It's one of few issues where I'm going to break from my libertarian friends and say "screw the market." Being able to get medical care should not be a luxury. And before anyone says anything about how one can always go to the ER, those folks can shoosh. I know how the ER here works. They don't diagnose anything. They (sort of) make sure you're not going to die (from anything obvious) and then send you to "follow up" with a "specialist" or "your doctor." If you're one of the unfortunate who don't have good health insurance, you won't REALLY get treated.

I pay $80 every 2 weeks out of my paycheck for health insurance. I went in for STI testing. I had to pay a $20 copay. And then there were limits to what my insurance would cover on the labs, so every single test cost me $10-20, and I got a bill for each and every one of them. I believe I paid over $100 just to get tested for all STI's. And I'm one of the lucky covered people!!

Obamacare hasn't fixed anything. And if he got his way, he's set things up to benefit big business more than the American people. And if he didn't, it's because of all of the Congresspeople who are bought and paid for, or on the Boards of Directors of our big businesses, there are conflicts of interest everywhere. They're all stroking each other off between DC and Wall Street. Lube everywhere.

It's why Bernie was so appealing. Even though his voting record didn't ALWAYS stack up perfectly, at least he had us hoping for just a second that we might have an option for Pres who wasn't just a corporate shill.
 
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. . . we had a dream of that happening here with Bernie.
Bernie was so appealing . . . he had us hoping . . .
We, us... sorry but not everybody wanted Bernie.

What about those "trial period" payments? In the amount of her mortgage and paid on time each month? Where did that money go? "Let me transfer you to another department." "I'm sorry, ma'am, we'll have to open an inquiry and get back to you." "I'm sorry, we don't have any record of that."

She lost her home.
That's terrible! But didn't she keep records of her payments to show them? Didn't she have any paperwork, a signed agreement when she entered the program? If they were set to be paid automatically, there is proof of those transactions at her bank. I don't understand how that could have been paying for nine months and not been able to prove it.
 
During Bush Lite's reign of error -- even in the first eight months of 2001 -- we started referring to the U.S. politically as "Canada's retarded brother."

Yes, that's not at all PC. In fact, to quote a retarded (his word) co-worker, "That's not retarded. That's stupid."
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FWIW, Clinton is promising a better future, if we dig in & do some work. A dangerous proposition to a public dominated by a minority of bawling sheep protected by self-appointed guard dogs of questionable sanity (who mostly want to reserve for themselves a ready supply of food & amusement). Let's call it "a chicken in every pot, if you make minimal effort."

Meanwhile, Trump continues to tout the classic GOP nonsense that promises "steak yesterday, steak tomorrow... but never steak today." That is, we had Golden Years under the last Republican administration -- almost always an outright lie -- & all we have to do to Make Us Great Again -- almost always a stack of obvious lies -- is buy another four years of shit sandwiches.

I don't need to LIKE Clinton to vote Democrat. Is this politics, or a highschool popularity contest??
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If anyone can find the original usage/version of "steak yesterday, steak tomorrow," PLEASE enlighten me!! I'm pretty sure I first saw it used in a 1933 op/ed piece, but now Google only returns SIX hits... & one of 'em (about guitar synths, naturally) is mine. :rolleyes:
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When a Right Wingnut says something threatening, & it goes over badly, they wrinkle up their pert little noses & say, "Whatsa matter -- don't you got no sense of humor?? We was just havin' a little fun!!"

... sorta like a Mob enforcer who's spotted bloodying someone up in an alley.
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Before I ever read Kurt Vonnegut's fiction, I snagged a copy of his essay collection Wampeters, Foma & Granfalloons, pieces originally published 1966-1974.

You've probably never read even one. Read them. It's a mixed bag, all of 'em sadly overlooked, & I think KV was a very good novelist but an outright master of short prose, period.

Within is an article that totally shaped my political outlook. Originally published in Harper's Magazine (November 1972), "In a manner that must shame God himself" took on the entire political system in this country... & IMNSHO things have NOT improved since.
The two real political parties in America are the Winners and the Losers. The people don’t acknowledge this. They claim membership in two imaginary parties, the Republicans and the Democrats, instead.
The problem here with Wikiquote is that they take a great-sounding snippet & remove it from context -- IMO totally defeating its intent.

See, Vonnegut goes on to point out that the Winners are made up of the Republicans + the Democrats... & everyone who declines to get 100% behind one or the other (both carefully selected by our nations version of the Communist Central Committee) is free to be a Loser. From there, the concluding words are utterly damning, a ringing modern "Sinners In the Hands of an Angry God" --
The Winners are at war with the Losers, and the fix is on.

The prospects for peace are awful.
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Nothing has changed since. My rallying cry since the '90s has been FIRST WE CRUSH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY -- THE DEMOCRATS ARE NEXT.

I'm glad that Trump appeared. He's gleefully undercutting the GOP, & I'm hoping he succeeds in causing longterm (hopefully permanent) rifts.

If it helps any, the Ted Kruz's Kraaazy Kristians are undermining Trump, in hopes they'll made Plastic Teddy the 2020 presumptive ASAP.
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One last thing. I'm probably one of the few people on this site who's been associated with the Society for Creative Anachronism.

I'm likely the only one who's read Iron Dream of Camelot, a scurrilous & very well-considered pamphlet written by one "Woodford of Lorien" (apparently a Michael Woodford) in the mid-1980s.

(The title references Norman Spinrad's The Iron Dream, a novel made up almost entirely of the novel Lord of the Swastika from an alternate Earth where Adolf Hitler stayed away from politics & instead wrote science fiction.)

Within, Woodford lays out his case that the SCA is like college sports, with things being run by the biggest, meanest, stupidest jock with the hottest cheerleader by his side, & their cadre of ass-kissers.

In 1999, more than a decade later, things hadn't improved. If you look up the ONLY :)eek:) Google hit, one Eke has written
Basically, my conclusion was that the SCA is a society for fighters and their girl friends. Anything else you do is merely an accoutrement to glorify the reigning stickjock.
A Johannes responds,
that estimation is not too far from reality. I'd prefer to think instead of a "Path of Power," which begins with the first fighter practice and ends with Duke-Sir-dom, and which somehow, somehow, anyone who approaches a sword can plug into but those who choose something else have no claim to.
Trump is puffing himself up as the biggest, stupidest jock. His style is to bully, to shout down, to threaten. He demands that you give him whatever he wants. If you balk, he threatens you with armed reviolt by his whipped-up Brownshirts -- soon we'll see a logo that looks a little like this --
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A vote for Trump is a vote for fear & its continuation.
 
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One last thing. I'm probably one of the few people on this site who's been associated with the Society for Creative Anachronism.
You're not really serious, are you? Do you realize how many members belong here? Well, though you are certainly a unique fellow, I highly doubt you're "only one of a few" here into or familiar with the SCA. Polyfolk are all over the SCA! And other reenacting groups, LARPing, etc. People have discussed it here.

Let's see, I've never joined but have had an interest in it for a long time now and, off the top of my head, there's dragonflysky, BrigidsDaughter, icesong, and SNeacail but a little search for people who've mentioned an interest or participation brings us: clairegoad, NeonKaos, FormerUnicorn, Edward, SunsetDancer, valynn, GreenAcres (I think), RickPlus, as a start -- I don't have time right now to keep looking, but I am certain there are more.
 
Kinda hoping to keep this within hailing distance of the topic, but such is "political" discussion in this nation... :(

So... like what's the estimate, then?

90%?

50%?

20%?

5%?

How few qualifies for "few"?

And "hereabouts" is intended to refer to active members who participate sometimes (784 at the moment) rather than 152,565 who created accounts. To me, there's clear difference between "living in town" & "being part of the community."
 
Well, since this thread is for discussion of "religion, politics, sex .. and other [undisclosed] taboo subjects," it's going to be hard to stay on topic. Which topic?

But anyway, you made it sound as if you belong to a teeny-tiny elite group and, by including a link to Wikipedia, as if you assume most people had never heard of it -- when it's always been my understanding that tons of polyfolk are into the SCA, and since there are a ton of poly people registered here... it was just a point I was making. There are so many members here who don't post and just lurk, and others who go away for lo-o-o-oong periods at a time, so it's hard to know who else, but I am sure you're not just one of a very few.

Whatever - it's not that important to me! Was just pointing it out because you gave me a giggle and I wanted you to know there are others here.
 
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Just for general enlightenment, the "steak tomorrow" is a modification of one of the White Queen's lines from Through The Looking Glass.

"It's very good jam," said the Queen.
"Well, I don't want any to-day, at any rate."
"You couldn't have it if you did want it," the Queen said. "The rule is, jam to-morrow and jam yesterday – but never jam to-day."
"It must come sometimes to 'jam to-day'," Alice objected.
"No, it can't," said the Queen. "It's jam every other day: to-day isn't any other day, you know."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jam_tomorrow

Lewis Carroll poked fun at all kinds of taboo subjects, often quite subtly.

Leetah
 
I was in SCA for years, until my local chapter got weirdly political and bitchy. We even had a fist fight between two old ladies at the AGM and had to call the cops. People take their anachronisms seriously, I guess. I quit shortly there after: ain't nobody got time for that.

I was pretty wicked with a foil, s'long as my opponent wasn't like a foot taller than me :p
 
A fistfight at an All Guilds Meeting!? A kingdom All Guilds? One of the most boring meetings there are? Wow! That must make a good "No sh-t there I was" story.

Leetah
 
Back to sex, then. :D

Do any other oldsters like me remember the strange quasi-sexual fads that used to be common truck? For instance,
  • multiple orgasm
  • simultaneous orgasm
  • vaginal vs. clitoral orgasm
  • frigidity
  • the G Spot
This occurred to me while thinking about my first sexual partner, at college. Though we started out as virgins, with little (me) or no (her) exposure to porn or even hardcore sex-education materials, we could never figure out why there was so much hoo-ha about those side-trips.

(My porn exposure was almost entirely Playboy & Penthouse, & we're talking early-1970s standards. :rolleyes: As in, for most of us in the middle of nowhere, the "hardcore" print porn of the day was MUCH tamer than 2000s Playboy.)

Somehow, we managed to keep up with classes AND on-campus jobs AND other obligations (her: studio arts; me, newspaper column & radio show) yet have sex a few hours a day.

She might sometimes take more than a half-hour to hit that first orgasm, but after that had brief refractory time before approaching the next peak. (Though we soon discovered she also enjoyed maintaining the near-peak buzz for an extended time.) And making love at bedtime, I'd usually orgasm at least twice.

The "simultaneous" thing never occurred to us. More often than not, intercourse meant that one of us about to orgasm would set the other off, more-or-less at the same time, & the idea of chasing after this baffled us.
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And I've never understood the apparent thrill of fantasy sex. Chatrooms, phone, sexting... though a regular RPG player in the1980s, the sex stuff has never done a thing for me. Even "hot chat" with an actual sexual partner seemed extraneous at best, like lingerie.
 
Do any other oldsters like me remember the strange quasi-sexual fads that used to be common truck? For instance,
  • multiple orgasm
  • simultaneous orgasm
  • vaginal vs. clitoral orgasm
  • frigidity
  • the G Spot

These are strange fads? Except for the myth of frigidity, I don't see the above as fads, though the media may have focused on one or another in cycles.
 
These are strange fads?
Surely you can see where that's conflating fad with fact.

They HAVE been fads, particularly back in the Dimmer Ages (1970s). The woman-targeted magazines (Playgirl & Cosmopolitan probably the most hardcore, kinda PG-13) had regular articles about them. For instance, with the two types of orgasm, women seemed to be (or at least were told they ought to be) concerned with which was "better" & whether they were having the proper balance of each. :rolleyes:

This baffled Cindy & me. Like, when a woman is having intercourse AND being manually stimulated, which type is it? is that good or bad? & what does it mean when a woman orgasms from having her neck nibbled & nipples stroked with none of the "real" stimulation? :confused:

Simultaneous orgasm? When it didn't happen for us, we didn't see reason to think we'd somehow failed, but got the impression others were deeply frustrated by it. (Actually, it's a distinct turnon to be able to fully appreciate a lover's orgasm without the overwhelming distraction.)

Socalled frigidity seemed (seems?) to be a catch-all for all sorts of problems & distractions, a symptom rather than a thing of itself. Yet there were all those articles that could only have made it worse, worrying so much about "not doing it right" as to take one or both partners totally out of the moment -- surely a potential boner-killer as well.

The talkshows were worse than the magazines, being constrained by self-censorship. The result was often laughable (literally), trying to talk about interaction of damp tumescent body parts without saying "penis" or "clitoris" or "semen" or "ejaculation" or "licking" or "sucking" or even "nipples." :eek:
 
Okay, you meant the media coverage of these things were fads, or promoted them as fads. That wasn't clear to me. It looked like you were saying that these types of orgasms were fads. That's why it didn't make sense to me. I am not always able to follow how you word your posts, for some reason.
 
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