Reposting Here. Gay Poly Man Falls for Both Partners. Now what?

NewPolyGuy66

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Hello, there. Just an introduction, bare bones: 50ish gay man, single, previously in a 18-year monogamous relationship. Presently, wow. Knocked off my feet. Mind blown. I've met 2 guys who are a committed loving couple. They are also very happy exploring and playing with others outside the core relationship.

History is, they both approached me at the same time. Conversations happen, meetings take place, significant quality time is spent with just the 3 of us. Magic. They have included me on their various outside play dates and we all had great fun, and it just sort of bonded us closer, I think. They are also pursuing other play dates with random guys, and even sometimes with guys they already know. Gotta say this is not always easy. but I'm learning more about compersion every day.

We are separated by miles. They live together and have an awesome life. As a solo single guy, I am just searching the apps for meaningless banter and maybe a physical catch sometimes.

We have all shared how we feel for each other. Yep, the L word. I know they do. In every bone I have, I feel that. I do too, but still, I think I have the deeper feels for both of them, not just one of them. Perhaps that is a new poly twist. I'm not sure.

Deep discussions have led to talk about including me in almost every aspect of their lives, over time. It remains to be seen what actions will back these words. They have both voiced apprehension and fear about hurting me if, and inevitably, when, they pursue their respective play adventures away from one another. Btw, they have both said to me that I should pursue the same.

I love them both very much. I've never felt more alive and free, and yet so vulnerable at the same time.

We are only able to see each other in person every 6 or so weeks.

Full disclosure, my attachment style is anxious. They know this and have provided the assurance I need along the way. I am working on being okay with giving them space and time, without worrying I have been replaced or I'm just the flavor de jour. It's not easy. In fact, it is a struggle sometimes. My insecure side always doubts they have the same feelings I have. But I certainly don't want to smother or push them away.

We all want to see where this heads from here, without a poly label, or some fancy word choice like FB or FWB etc., that may or may not describe what we feel for one another.

Thanks for reading this far.
 
How long have you been dating this couple?
Has it always been just an every 6 weeks thing?

I can see why you'd be worried about whether you are really special to them, or really unique, if they are constantly banging other guys. It sounds like you're polyamorous, but maybe they don't ID that way.

Were they IDing as a monogamous couple who just has casual sex with others, until you came along and seemingly all fell in love?

Remember, love takes time to develop. Generally, the first year or two with someone we are infatuated. In poly circles this is known as new relationship energy. Love needs time. It requires going through hardships with each other, and showing up to support each other.

Then, there's this concept of the relationship escalator. You all have to decide which floor you want to ride to and get off at. Just dating and having sex? Moving to be nearer each other? Meeting each other's family and friends (not just their play partners for sex romps)? Moving in together?

Also, you're saying you like the idea of loving them "as a couple." What if you lose interest in one of them? What if one of them loses interest in you? Triads are the hardest way to date polyamorously, since each guy is your partner AND your metamour. It seems when you get together you're almost always staying in a threesome, but each dyad in a triad needs room to grow and develop at its own pace. They get to be one-on-one with each other, but you never do?

Is this all one big group sex thing for them, with you, with their others, or is there plenty of quiet time to build a relationship, doing domestic stuff together? Does every date with them just feel like a sexy honeymoon and not real life?

Beware of couple's privilege. Know your rights as a "secondary."

 
How long have you been dating this couple?
Has it always been just an every 6 weeks thing?
I can see why you'd be worried about whether you are really special to them, or really unique, if they are constantly banging other guys.
It sounds like you're polyamorous but maybe they don't ID that way.

Were they IDing as a monogamous couple who just has casual sex with others, until you came along and seemingly all fell in love?

Remember, love takes time to develop. Generally the first year or two with someone we are infatuated. In poly circles this is known as new relationship energy. Love needs time, it needs going through hardships with each other, and showing up to support each other.

Then, there's this concept of the relationship escalator. You all have to decide which floor you want to ride to and get off at. Just dating and having sex? Moving to be nearer each other? Meeting each other's family and friends (not just their playpartners for sex romps)? Moving in together?

Also, you're saying you like the idea of loving them "as a couple." What if you lose interest in one of them? What if one of them loses interest in you? Triads are the hardest way to date polyamorously, since both guys are your partner AND your metamour. It seems when you get together you're almost always staying in a threesome, but each dyad in a triad needs room to grow and develop at its own pace. They get to be one-on-one with each other, but you never do?

Is this all one big group sex thing for them, with you, with their others, or is there plenty of quiet time to build a relationship, doing domestic stuff together? Does every date with them just feel like a sexy honeymoon and not real life?

Beware of couple's privilege. Know your rights as a "secondary."

Wow.
 
Haha, sorry. I know it was a lot to think about. You don't need to answer right away, or completely, or at all! Just food for thought.
 

Uncomfortable feelings won't kill you. Sit with them, distract yourself, let them pass. It seems like you're all doing well.
This one I'll tackle first. Lol. Our routine has been texting every morning to welcome the day. After I read some stuff last night, and knowing my Anxious attachment, I thought I'd lay off the good morning text. My gut is in knots, I've picked up this damn phone 457 times wanting to just tell him hello, have a good day. I have not done that. I know he's online, that stupid green online activity dot makes me crazy 🤪. This is sitting in my discomfort, I really don't know what to expect. Lol
 
Hello NewPolyGuy66,

It sounds like there is a long (physical) distance between you and these two guys. Can you be more specific?
How many hours do you have to drive to get to them?
Does it even entail a plane flight?
Do the three of you have any plans/goals for reducing this distance?

I hear you saying you can only meet them in person once every six weeks or so. That's hard.

You are definitely experiencing NRE. "Never felt more alive and free, and yet so vulnerable," is basically the definition of NRE. It is a powerful and addicting drug. We all take it from time to time, and it can impair your judgment. So try to be cautious about making any major decisions until the NRE calms down.

The three of you seem to be on the road towards forming what's called an open triad. In a triad, all three people are romantically/sexually involved with each other. The "open" part refers to the fact that you all three may date others outside the triad. I guess what I'm saying is, what you're experiencing is not new in the poly world, and you are not alone.

Keep us posted as your situation evolves.
Regards,
Kevin T.
 
Hello NewPolyGuy66,

It sounds like there is a long (physical) distance between you and these two guys. Can you be more specific? How many hours do you have to drive to get to them? or does it even entail a plane flight? Do the three of you have any plans/goals for reducing this distance? I hear you saying you can only meet them in person once every six weeks or so. That's hard.

You are definitely experiencing NRE. "Never felt more alive and free, and yet so vulnerable" are basically the definition of NRE. It is a powerful and addicting drug, we all take it from time to time, and it can impair your judgment. So try to be cautious about making any major decisions until the NRE calms down.

The three of you seem to be on the road towards forming what's called an open triad. In a triad, all three people are romantically/sexually involved with each other. The "open" part refers to the fact that you all three may date others outside the triad. I guess what I'm saying is, what you're experiencing is not new in the poly world, and you are not alone.

Keep us posted as your situation evolves.
Regards,
Kevin T.
Whew. The you are not alone grabbed me. That's important to know. Thank you. I'm going to introduce the open triad to them and see if it fits. I appreciate your thoughtfulness and clarity. New terms and views are awesome.
 
You're very welcome. Let us know whenever new questions arise for you (and they will). Good luck!
 
Out of curiosity, are you working with a therapist or similar to heal the root of that anxious attachment style?
 
It sounds like there is a long (physical) distance between you and these two guys. Can you be more specific?
How many hours do you have to drive to get to them? Does it even entail a plane flight? Do the three of you have any plans/goals for reducing this distance?
You are definitely experiencing NRE. "Never felt more alive and free, and yet so vulnerable" are basically the definition of NRE. It is a powerful and addicting drug, we all take it from time to time. It can impair your judgment, so try to be cautious about making any major decisions until the NRE calms down.

The three of you seem to be on the road towards forming what's called an open triad. In a triad, all three people are romantically/sexually involved with each other. The "open" part refers to the fact that you all three may date others outside the triad. I guess what I'm saying is, what you're experiencing is not new in the poly world, and you are not alone.
Fast update. I had a great phone chat with both guys last night. 👌 It went great on all fronts. I introduced the open triad words. Nobody freaked out. J did want to clarify the difference between a throuple, which we all agreed we are not, and this new open triad term. We all agree that fits much better. Thanks for that, btw.

Also, I need to ask that we please not refer to our other outside the triad sexual play dates or interests as just banging other guys. Gay vernacular of play dates can be tricky to understand, and I get that, and I know it wasn't said with malice or disrespect, but if I am to understand and live the notion of compersion, then I would like to embrace and see these other adventures as opportunities for happiness for the other two guys in this relationship with me. 😊

We all proceed forward, cautiously.
 
Sorry about using the "bang" word for sex. Often I use "fuck." It's not an insult. I meant no disrespect. We are all adults here and many of us have casual sex, which is basically fucking for pleasure, and there's nothing wrong with it!

If you want to be classy, or if it helps you to say "sexual play date" instead of using other common terms, that's fine. ;)

What can I say? I grew up in NY, where everyone uses slang and curses and speaks their minds. I'm not male, btw, but I am non-binary and I have plenty of compersion when my partners bang their other partners. I don't find that calling it a sexual play date, rather than banging or fucking would make any difference to me. (Not that my partners have sexual playdates. We are all poly, so we just have dates that may or may not include sex on any given day. But I have had mere sex dates in the bloom of my 50s, not gonna lie. [I'm 68 now.])

However, my own bf is a very romantic guy and usually calls it making love when we do it. To each their own.

Again, no disrespect meant. It's just terminology. I am a very sex-positive person.
 
Sorry about using the "bang" word for sex. Often I use "fuck." It's not an insult. I meant no disrespect. We are all adults here and many of us have casual sex, which is basically fucking for pleasure, and there's nothing wrong with it!

If you want to be classy, or if it helps you to say "sexual play date" instead of using other common terms, that's fine. ;)

What can I say? I grew up in NY, where everyone uses slang and curses and speaks their minds. I'm not male, btw, but I am non-binary and I have plenty of compersion when my partners bang their other partners. I don't find that calling it a sexual play date, rather than banging or fucking would make any difference to me. (Not that my partners have sexual playdates. We are all poly, so we just have dates that may or may not include sex on any given day. But I have had mere sex dates in the bloom of my 50s, not gonna lie. [I'm 68 now.])

However, my own bf is a very romantic guy and usually calls it making love when we do it. To each their own.

Again, no disrespect meant. It's just terminology. I am a very sex-positive person.
😆 I'm grinning and choked on my coffee. Thank you. Lol. I I can see you are very sex positive, that was never a question. 😉
 
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