Should I Veto?

JustaGuy2112

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My long-time girlfriend and I started in a poly relationship, but have been monogamous for the last six years. She has expressed interest in dating another man, and I gave consent without too much thought. I mean, we did it before. What could have changed? Well, she found a guy she likes and they have gone on a few dates and such. We recently had one of those hard talks, because she was pushing for me to meet him, because she thinks I need more friends, and "we have so much in common," despite me adamantly refusing to. Eventually I was able to convey what the thought of meeting him did to me, like raise feeling of jealousy, fear of being left alone... stupid stuff. Now even though I don't have to ever see him, there is a burning feeling in my gut. Is it jealousy? I don't know. But... how do I know for sure I am ready for an open relationship? Should I ask her to call it off with her metamour?
 
You want to ask her to transition to monogamy? Are YOU even ready to keep that promise till death or breakup?
 
You want to ask her to transition to monogamy? Are YOU even ready to keep that promise till death or breakup?
I didn't say anything about having her transition to monogamy. My issue, that I am trying to work through, is a dislike of her new partner, and mixed feelings of jealousy that I am trying to work through. I just need to talk to people with an unbiased opinion and see if it's something that I can work through. Keeping the emotions I have felt since she told me about him bottled up has been killing me. It's been painful on a physical level, to the point I was sick for several days.
 
You should definitelly tell her what's going on with you, but I don't think it's a great idea to veto people you haven't even met based on an abstract dislike. 😲 How do you know this is not gonna come up with her next interest and the next and the next? How is that not a request for monogamy? It there any reason it should be easier to work through in the next situation that comes up?

(Btw., I'm not unbiased right now, more like on the other side of a slightly similar situation.)
 
Most of us who have tried vetoes find they don't work. Usually it just causes your partner to feel heartbroken in the midst of her NRE, and to resent you for it.

Why do you dislike the guy so much, if gf thinks you and he have so much in common?
 
Most of us who have tried vetoes find they don't work. Usually it just causes your partner to feel heartbroken in the midst of her NRE, and to resent you for it.

Why do you dislike the guy so much, if gf thinks you and he have so much in common?
Even though we haven't met yet, they share some common friends, none of whom I like. Can I tolerate them for 30 minutes to an hour? Barely... Could I tolerate being near them if I knew they had a romantic interest? Absolutely not. Her friends have a "I know more about anything you have studied about" attitude and are generally abrasive to anyone who doesn't acknowledge how smart they are. I may be projecting some of my feelings from them onto him, but I really don't trust myself to be in the same room as him.

I have read through many of the resources you have posted. I think it's her NRE that's got me feeling this way. Her not being around to talk to has made it worse, though. My main reason for posting here is to talk with people and see if by chatting I can isolate these feelings and work through them.
 
Hello JustaGuy2112,

A veto is something you can do, however I would caution that it's the last resort. If you do it, your girlfriend will be hurt and so will her then-ex. Your girlfriend may resent you for years to come. Use a veto if you have to, but first try every other possible solution. Can you describe the mechanism of the burning and jealousy that you are feeling? What triggers that feeling? Do you have needs that aren't being fulfilled? What are they?

Just some food for thought,
Kevin T.
 
A veto is something you can do. However, I would caution that it's the last resort. If you do it, your girlfriend will be hurt, and so will her then-ex. Your girlfriend may resent you for years to come. Use a veto if you have to, but first try every other possible solution. Can you describe the mechanism of the burning and jealousy that you are feeling? What triggers that feeling? Do you have needs that aren't being fulfilled? What are they?
I have been talking through this stuff with her when I can. I'm horrible with starting difficult conversations. If you know how to find out what triggers feelings, that would be great, because I have no clue what my triggers are. The feelings just come and go, or they stay and I stew in them for days or weeks at a time. I also tend to withdraw and try to hide my emotions, because I hate drama, but then that just starts drama... The cycle continues.
 
New question-- is it normal to doubt my own judgement? Like, am I really fine with my GF seeing someone else romantically, or do I just want her to have access to what she needs/wants?
 
Is it normal to doubt my own judgement? Like, am I really fine with my GF seeing someone else romantically, or do I just want her to have access to what she needs/wants?
You don't seem "fine," from what you write. It seems you would like to be fine. You're philosophically on board with polyamory. Perhaps you're fine on an intellectual level. All of that is not a bad starting point. But you're not emotionally fine, just willing to do the work to get fine.

So yes, it's normal to doubt your own judgement in face of a contrary emotional experience.
 
You don't seem "fine," from what you write. It seems you would like to be fine, you're philosophically on board with polyamory. Perhaps you're fine on an intellectual level. All of that is not a bad starting point. But you're not emotionally fine, just willing to do the work to get fine.

So yes, it's normal to doubt your own judgement in face of a contrary emotional experience.
I used to not be so emotional... Then I met my GF who I had a poly relationship with... Now, when she gets home, and we have a more in-depth talk, I'm scared I'll wind up in tears.
 
I have been talking through this stuff with her when I can, I'm horrible with starting difficult conversations. If you know how to find out what triggers feelings that would be great, because I have no clue what my triggers are. The feelings just come and go, or they stay and I stew in them for days or weeks at a time. I also tend to withdraw and try to hide my emotions, because I hate drama, but then that justs starts drama...The cycle continues.
Um, I think in one of the resources there was this advice on how to locate your triggers, but I don't know if it's applicable:

Pick a situation when you don't feel yucky to do the exercise. Get comfortable.

Say you expect to get jealous when she goes on a date. (BTW, jealousy is an umbrella term for complex emotions involving fear, envy, feelings of loss, attachment distress. So I think you can safely use it for what you feel.)

Ok, so imagine what happens in detail play-by-play. They chat in advance to set up the appointment. She says goodbye to you. (Do you feel ok?) She meets him. They watch a movie. (Still comfortable? Or is some kind of distress coming up?) They touch, they kiss. (Is physical intimacy the trigger? It is for many people.)

It could be something more general, though, like her turning the loving attention you're used to receiving somewhere else.

Usually you locate emotional triggers by just being self-aware and noticing when a particular feeling comes up, then generalizing from several situations.

I used to not be so emotional... Then I met my GF who I had a poly relationship with... Now when she gets home, and we have a more in-depth talk, I'm scared I'll wind up in tears.
There's no shame in crying!

Coming online is great, but you could definitely also benefit from therapy, which could help teach you more emotional-management skills.
 
I don't know if this helps you any.

My issue, that I am trying to work through, is a dislike of her new partner, and mixed feelings of jealousy that I am trying to work through. I just need to talk to people with an unbiased opinion and see if it's something that I can work through. Keeping the emotions I have felt since she told me about him bottled up has been killing me. It's been painful on a physical level, to the point I was sick for several days.

Could a poly-friendly counselor help you?


We recently had one of those hard talks, because she was pushing for me to meet him, because she thinks I need more friends, and "we have so much in common," despite me adamantly refusing to.

Are you mad that she was pushing you to meet him, and wasn't hearing you or respecting your limit?

You don't really like him, nor their friend group. It seems like you are trying to be "neutral" about it, but it gets hard if she pushes them on you.

Even though we haven't met yet, they share some common friends, none of whom I like. Can I tolerate them for 30 minutes to an hour? Barely... Could I tolerate being near them if I knew they had a romantic interest? Absolutely not.

You don't have to hang out with her/their friends, or her and this new dating partner of hers. "Metamour" is "the partner of my partner," so this guy is YOUR "metamour" or "meta."

I have read through many of the resources you have posted. I think it's her NRE that's got me feeling this way.

Is it "poly hell" stuff?



Her not being around to talk to has made it worse, though.

Is she the only person you have to talk to? What about trusted friends or family?

Is that why she was pushing him on you to befriend? She feels the pressure of being your main or only social outlet?

I'm horrible with starting difficult conversations. If you know how to find out what triggers feelings, that would be great, because I have no clue what my triggers are. The feelings just come and go, or they stay and I stew in them for days or weeks at a time. I also tend to withdraw and try to hide my emotions, because I hate drama, but then that just starts drama... The cycle continues.

It sounds like you could work on some of those skills, regardless of this situation. Is this just never having been taught them, or additional stuf,f like alexithymia?

Galagirl
 
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Even though we haven't met yet, they share some common friends, none of whom I like. Can I tolerate them for 30 minutes to an hour? Barely... Could I tolerate being near them if I knew they had a romantic interest? Absolutely not. Her friends have a "I know more about anything you have studied about" attitude and are generally abrasive to anyone who doesn't acknowledge how smart they are. I may be projecting some of my feelings from them onto him, but I really don't trust myself to be in the same room as him.
You don't have to be in the same room as him. If she's pushing you to meet and hang out with this guy, tell her firmly no. This is called parallel polyamory, where the two metamours both date the same person, but do not meet. This is ideal for some people.

If you yourself feel you need more friends, fine. They don't need to be her "know it all" friends. You can get your own.

I have read through many of the resources you have posted. I think it's her NRE that's got me feeling this way. Her not being around to talk to has made it worse, though. My main reason for posting here is to talk with people and see if by chatting I can isolate these feelings and work through them.

She hasn't been around to talk to much? Why not? Is she neglecting you now in favor of her friends and new bf?

I am glad you reached out here.

I am still confused as to why you said you and long-term-gf started out non-mono, but the practice of polyamory seems like uncharted territory to you still. Could you explain more?

I have been talking through this stuff with her when I can. I'm horrible with starting difficult conversations. If you know how to find out what triggers feelings, that would be great, because I have no clue what my triggers are. The feelings just come and go, or they stay and I stew in them for days or weeks at a time. I also tend to withdraw and try to hide my emotions, because I hate drama, but then that just starts drama... The cycle continues.

Avoiding "drama" downplays the validity of your feelings. I know. Men in our culture aren't supposed to have feelings. :rolleyes: They are meant to push them down, and just be brave, stiff-upper-lip warriors. It might be partly hormonal too, imo. I am assigned female at birth, but I ID as non-binary. Menopause made me even more like a guy, with the drop in estrogen. I find myself rarely crying, even when a good cry would help, a lot!

Sometimes I have to find a way to MAKE myself cry, for my own good. Then my emotions flow more freely. I might cry a little more, too, for a week or two. That seems to hoist me up to a better place, get me to a new stage in my life. The flow of tears clarifies, and even washes away some of the pain.

Go ahead and cry now, buddy. We don't mind. 🌸

But, I do know and understand my emotions, and other's emotions. I've been deeply trained in this, through motherhood and my former career as a lactation consultant. Identifying emotions and handling them in a healthy way could not be more important. And if you want to be successful at polyamory, you simply must learn to be better at knowing yourself, understanding your partner(s), and communicating in respectful, helpful, open and honest ways.

I used to not be so emotional... Then I met my GF who I had a poly relationship with... Now, when she gets home, and we have a more in-depth talk, I'm scared I'll wind up in tears.

And you don't want to cry... You're trained to be stoic, like a Spartan warrior, or like an early human, hunting in the forest for game, with a spear, and not able to stop running because a branch stabbed you, or a bee stung you. That behavior is all well and good in war or hunting, but not so helpful in romantic relationships, especially polyamorous ones.

I have seen that most polyamorous people prefer others who are open with their emotions, and savvy about how they express them. Non-Violent Communication (google it) works well.
 
Thank you everyone, for your help and chatting with me. I believe I am ready to move forward from this issue. I don't believe everything is perfectly resolved, but I have been working on myself and comunicating with my GF. We are working through it. So again thanks for putting up with me, I might hop on if something comes up but I won't be hovering around the site everyday like I have been.
 
I'm glad things are working out for you. Be welcome here anytime, for whatever reason.
 
I see that you've "signed off", and you've received some excellent advice (yes, talk it out - and try to be patient with the NRE).

As to meeting her new partner, just my take... one hierarchical married poly guy to another... I would encourage you to consider it. It seems important to her, and it likely can't hurt.

I'm casual friends with my wife's first poly boyfriend (they are still friends, but no longer romantic/sexual) - we cycle together occasionally. And, I hang out with her current poly guy as well from time to time - which my wife really appreciates. She thinks we both need more friends. Seems to be a common theme. (LoL)
 
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