Rider:
Interesting take. Seems like it's not just limited to your experience. I can say this: in a lot of previous situations, my needs weren't really being met by one partner, so I would seek out other things to fill in the gaps. With you, my needs are way exceeded. As such, I don't feel the pull to seek out a secondary almost at all.
If there was a super cool girl who came along that fit the bill and got along great with you, I might consider dating her, but it's not high priority stuff for me if that makes sense.
Me:
That does make sense. I'm not stressing out or anything. Just making sure all the dark corners are inspected before we cancel the hiatus.
Rider:
Sure. I'd be pretty happy having my time with you and occasionally hooking up with someone for sake of variety, maybe in a threesome or limited encounter. Or the occasional visitor, like Allie. If my needs were to change or something, I would let you know, but right now, I feel very satisfied.
Me:
I understand. I want you to have as much freedom as possible, even if you aren't looking for anything specific at the moment. Trying to problem-solve my way out of being bothered at all. Problem I'm working on right now is "why are so many girls jerks and how to control for it affecting me if they are."
Rider:
I think it's just a thing that we have to sort through case by case.
Me:
Yeah. Probably the best way is just to bring someone around as a friend to see how chill they are before getting too excited about them as a prospect.
Rider:
That seems like a good strategy.
Me:
Like, be up front about poly, so they know that there's a chance that there could maybe be more if they are a good friend-fit first, but that "friend" is all for now. Which is kind of a good life strategy anyway; who wants to date people they can't even be friends with outside of that? I think I'm much more comfortable with the idea of friend -> friend with benefits -> maybe more if they handle that part well. And I'm not talking about just for you—for myself, too!
I've kinda sworn off "dating," hiatus or no. But if I meet someone I happen to find attractive, and they are willing to be my friend and hang out with us both, they may earn sex with me over time.
Rider:
That is a good way of thinking about it. If we work that model, it would probably be a lot less chaotic.
Me:
I think that in this third year of being poly together, and with having taken this hiatus, I am really learning a lot about what will or won't work for me.
I think the "anything goes" free-for-all model and the "stifled by a million rules" model are both asking for drama and trouble, and instead, this common-sense "be super up-front, take things slow, be friends" model is going to be the winner.
I also think that there is room in there for one-night stands that don't turn into anything, if being able to act on a sexual impulse in the moment is important.
Wait a minute. This deserves a flow chart.
I call this "the process of humaning for kitchen-table poly robots."
Rider:
I was thinking of poly dating as being a spectrum, almost like a political spectrum, but as it relates to potential rules and restrictions. Like, far-left would be a free for all, and far right would be veto power. OPP would be center-right, I guess.
Me:
I think that the process we're discussing actually removes 99% of any possible "rules"...Because the main rule is just "don't have sex with jerks" with the implying sub-rule of "make sure someone is not a jerk if you're going to have sex with them more than once."
Rider:
Sure. It's the "don't be a dick" golden rule. But explained to all probable outcomes.
Me:
And it leaves room for those "in the moment" missed opportunity things...
Like, you don't have to NOT have sex with someone if they're not poly or poly-friendly, you just have to know that they don't fit your life and don't KEEP having sex with them.
Rider:
Right. Which is fine because they wouldn't fit it anyway. Just be honest with them, get your kicks, and move on.
Me:
And if you like someone further than friendship, and they purport to be poly-friendly and cool with you already having a partner, hanging out in a group setting with no sex already having happened will hopefully shake out their true colors after a little while.
And if you have sex with them and THEN they start being a dick, well, then they thought they might be poly-friendly and cool with you having a partner, but NOPE, they're either not, or they're a jerk, so again, move on.
Rider:
Yeah, good call. I feel like there will be cases where it will take a bit of time to shake out someone's true colors. Once you know, though, you know.
Me:
I like this. This makes me comfortable with doing away with the hiatus.
Rider:
That's good news. <3
Me:
I feel like if something like this had been there from the outset, things with Kelly would have gone a lot differently.
Similarly, I feel a lot better about Rita if I know that we're all going to chill together and see how she reacts to
us before you try to get flirtatious in more than a verbal way. Like, friends-first.
Rider:
Makes sense. If we go to visit Sam in Nov, we'll probably get to hang out with her, since she lives nearby. My guess is that she'll not be a jerk.
Me:
Probably not. I like the idea of being willing to play the long game.
And I know that if you meet someone out, you'll slip it in that they're poly and see if they just want to come to our hood and chill sometime as friend. Or we could come to theirs or whatever.
Rider:
Yep. If I meet somebody out, I'll let em know that you're a thing and that I'm poly.
Me:
As an aside and mostly off-topic, I didn't think we were going to visit Sam in Nov. I figured we were going to stay in Former City and maximize number of humans. And that probably Sam would come to see us there. Not sure about a 6-hour round-trip drive in that time span?
But if it's an important part of your planned itinerary, we'll figure something out.
Rider:
Dunno. I figured maybe it could be in the circuit somewhere, but hadn't actually considered the logistics of it. Would be fun, but it's not the end of the world if we don't make it out there. I won't be pouty.
Me:
The thing I like about the friend approach is that it's low-pressure. There's no deadline to decide whether Person X meant Y when they said or did Z. There's more time to gather data points and see how we all interact.
Trying to see if someone jibes with our vibe, squished into a couple of days...is going to be super counter-productive. Because being under stress and pressure is gonna make MY vibe weird. Look at how much more logical and relaxed I've managed to be on the hiatus without the pressure of "this could happen at any time!"
Rider:
Definitely.
Me:
I kind of prefer, like, hang out, no pressure, think about it for a while, dissect anything I might have felt weird about, and process—without there being some expectation of another person's hopes being up and their feelings hanging in the balance. And then if everyone is cool and likes each other, we can be like "hey there was a couple of days of hangout and we made friends and no one was a jerk, next time you/I can just do whatever we want."
I remember trying to fit the Kelly thing into our NYE visit to Sam that year, and I just about lost my mind at the pressure of having to be OK right on the spot, with nowhere to escape to. I think it's probably similar to how you feel when you think you need to "fix" something that you can't fix.
Rider:
Yeah, that stress is awful. Makes me crazy.
Me:
I think I can be cool with you being with just about anyone as long as they're nice to me, I get to know them a little, and I'm not under PRESSURE to feel cool if I don't actually feel cool—pressure because there's someone waiting in the wings EXPECTING to be made something more than a friend, rather than it just being an "it happens if it happens" thing. Does that make sense?
Rider:
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Me:
If, say, Rita were to come visit us as friends and hang out with us for a week or something, and we had a few days of straight group hangout, no inching toward sexy stuff, and everything went well, I could see myself being willing to, like, go hang out at Oona's for a few hours in the evening one night, just to give you guys that space to see what unfolds.
But if there was some great anticipation and build up with an
expectation— lots of "any minute now" fiery gazes and the whatnot—I would feel weird, like an obstacle, or like something you couldn't wait to be free of. Which is how I felt with Kelly sometimes.
Rider:
That'd be cool. I doubt she'd be able to get away for a week, but you never know. Maybe sometime down the line.
Me:
Anyway, I feel really good about everything now that we've figured all that stuff out. I'm sure there will be lizardy moments on everyone's part once in a while, but simply knowing that nothing is going to get sprung on me out of the blue and that we have a policy against vetting jerks out really does away with all my generalized anxiety.
And regular lizardy moments are easily gotten through with the Buddhist stuff I've been reading. No more hiatus. Only flowchart.

I love you.
Rider:
Yay! I love you too. We're a bit ahead of schedule.