The Best Life Yet

Hmm...I decided it would be interesting to write a short retrospective of my poly career so far—people I've actually been naked with (LOL).

Actual partners:

Buddy - 5/2010 to 12/2010 - First stab at poly

The Ex - 7/2010 to 2/2014 - Poly until 12/2010 when he requested mono after my other relationship ended organically

-- Mono until 2/2014 --

Rider - 2/2014 to present - Second stab at poly, now engaged

Moss - 6/2014 to 4/2015 - Ex-husband who I was re-dating for a while; I got dumped so he could go mono with someone else

Brandon - 7/2014 to 9/2014 - Someone I was trying to date who turned out to be cheating on a mono girlfriend

Sam - 7/2014 to 7/2016 - Rider's best friend; ended up being uncomfortable with poly and with dating his best friend's girl even after two years of relatively smooth sailing, resulting in a breakup

Jake - 8/2014 to 7/2016 - My constant crush and makeout buddy from 1995 on; dated seriously from 8/2014 to 6/2015; dialed back to "it happens when it happens" due to money constraints (long-distance) in 6/2015 and officially dialed all the way back to platonic 7/2016 because he got a mono girlfriend

Caleb - 9/2014 to 11/2014 - Brief FWB that turned out to be a personality clash but ended with an unspoken whimper when he went mono with someone, so I never had to "end it"

Allie - 10/2014 to present - Our long-distance FWB+

Beckett - 5/2015 to 9/2015 - "Talking to" for two months, actually dating for one month before he broke it off to be mono with someone else—the crush that will never seem to die


Honorable mentions:

Oona - 5/2014 to 9/2014 - My BFF who I usually hook up with when she's not mono, but she's currently mono

Molly - 7/2014 - Threesome partner once

Kelly - 5/2015 - More Rider's partner, but we did have a threesome once

Pablo - 5/2015 to 11/2016 - More Rider's partner, but we had some threesomes and hooked up one on one a couple times

Aurora - 2/2016 - Ongoing long-distance girl crush that has only had two IRL hookups so far


Resounding theme:

I need to stay away from monogamous people or partners who are open to dating monogamous people, because they either get weirded out or cowpersoned.
 
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Jake wrote me back. He said that he still identifies as a poly person in a monogamous relationship, and that he will always be a part of my life. He also said that he, himself, is feeling fear about the whole thing—always questioning and doubting. So I guess his take on the situation isn't as solid as the article made it out to be.

He had to go take care of some stuff, but he said we'd talk more later. He told me that he loves me and sent a bunch of "xoxo." All of that made me feel better. It is comforting to know that he still loves me and would still be with me when we had our opportunities if it didn't mean losing the person he actually gets to be with regularly. Like, it is still obviously his choice to close for her, but knowing that it's not his ideal lessens the sadness.

I would rather we both be thinking of each other and feeling wistful, than for me to be feeling wistful alone while he just feels over it, y'know? I'm really glad I messaged him rather than sitting on it. Communication is the best thing ever.
 
Just wanted to write and say that I sympathize with your issues with the lower-bits as you put it...mine have gotten less frequent in recent years (oddly since I stopped being intimate with my ex husband...I think there was something going on in our chemistry that was not playing nice.) But I recently, a couple months or so ago, had something I have not experienced in a lot of years, a bout of BV...and I was so unaware of what I was dealing with, I tried to treat it with YI meds and oh my lord was that a bad idea. I actually had an awful sensitivity and reaction to the medicine! Well I went to the trusty interwebs to figure out what in the hell was going on and what to do about it. The "what is this?" wasn't too hard...but common advice was to see my doctor. I had weekend plans and I didn't want to deal with a doctor visit, so I started trying to home remedy my hoo-hah. I was like, "I WILL SCIENCE THIS UNTIL I WIN." I don't necessarily recommend that approach, but I will share some of my findings with you...

The antibacterial stuff I had, Neosporin and Manuka honey (which works well on infected teeth, and other topical antibac. needs)...DID NOT WORK.

Monostat, as mentioned was not just a fail, but a horrible, horrible idea.

I have this amazing burn salve that a Domme in Denver made for me. It's a beeswax base with coconut oil, aloe, and extracts of tea tree, lavender, and blood orange (just for scent because she knows I like it.) This stuff has literally helped relieve any and every topical ouch or discomfort I've used it on. Burns, scrapes, abrasions, and the external symptoms of this issue, too...but that was mostly a skin-soother.

As for the actual problem, the one thing I finally found that cured it was this: Bought capsules of store brand probiotic from Walgreens, containing lactobacillus acidophilus and I think something else...there were two probiotics in it I think. Busted open the capsule and used a finger to put some of the powdered contents...in there. Did this once a day for two days and was completely restored to perfect peace and harmony in the underbits that quick.

They talk about using yogurt in a similar fashion for the same effect, but I've always thought that would be gross and messy. Like, it wouldn't STAY, would it? This on the other hand, since it's a powder, no such problems. Feels odd doing it, but it works. So...yay, science! *shrug*

I know that having ANY personal health issues like this is just insufferable and wretched, so any tips and tricks we ladies can pass on to each other, well...solidarity and whatnot.

I know it's been a little while since you talked about the UTI, but I hope that you are all better. This, maybe just file away, might be useful to know someday.

.......

With regard to Jake, I am so glad to hear that communication led to hearing things that made it all easier to handle. That is really good when that happens. It would have been hard for me to do, I'm not really sure if I'd have been able to reach out like that.
 
Thanks, Spork! I actually already do use probiotic caps and also boric acid down there sometimes when stuff flares up. Sometimes it works, and sometimes not so much. I'm currently hoping that the probiotic just taken orally will stave off the yeast that the antibiotic (which I just finished yesterday) tends to provoke. Jury's still out on that one.

In other news...

So, I've been talking about how I wish I could have a crush on or get excited about someone new. It actually happened, kind of out of nowhere. And then kind of un-happened? I'm not sure.

What happened is that I got a message in my OKC box yesterday of a guy who is on-paper literally perfect for me. Gorgeous—EXACTLY my historic "type"—with a PhD, a lot of the same interests as me, specifically doesn't drink so fits in with my almost-never-drinking thing I've been doing, vegan...wearing playful, cute stuff in his photos, mentioning one of my favorite musical artists...poly, partnered, lives nearby enough that getting together wouldn't be much of a hassle. Like, I couldn't have dreamed up someone better.

His message to me was sweet, thoughtful, detailed, and full of stuff that made me swoon. I immediately wanted to wipe my calendar of all my other prospects and just get to know this person. So I messaged him back. And he messaged me back. I very quickly gave him my number and expressed interest in meeting IRL. He texted me almost immediately with his number. The squee machine was winding up.

And then something kind of strange happened. Even though in my last message I'd specifically said I was super busy but willing to carve out some time for him and asked him what his availability was, in his next message to me he stated that he wanted to meet in person before spending much more time talking online—that a lot of people had ghosted on him. I thought it odd that he be so...forceful...about that after I'd already asked him about setting something up.

There was also the issue that one of the questions I'd asked him (right before he announced he was done answering questions) was a question about his relationship situation. I guess he and his partner are open, but she's overseas for a few months, and he'd said something about how they used to have an agreement where they could hook up when they were outside of a particular mile radius. I'd wanted to know if that meant stuff had to end when she got back.

So we went back and forth a bit. We agreed on a tentative time for Sunday, based on his confirming that some visitors he has in town will be gone by then. I pushed the issue of finding out about his situation, and it is fine—he said that was their OLD agreement but they were fine dating locally now, so that was just a clarification that needed to be made. I guess we ironed out all the wrinkles.

But I am way less squeeful and excited now that I feel like I might be dealing with someone who is a bit jaded about the process and who is more eager to just get down to the business of meeting than to flirt a bit first. Not that I wasn't down to meet exactly that soon already—I'd been so excited that I would've done it tomorrow if I wasn't busy!—but I guess it's a vibe thing? Like, it makes me feel like an interchangeable part in a conveyor belt of possible women, paying for the sins of those that have come before.

I suppose it's good that at least he was direct. Time will tell if he seems jaded or bitter in other ways. No matter how attractive someone might be on the outside, if their insides are toughened to leather, they will not get far with me.

So now I have potentially two back-to-back dates on Sunday in the daytime. We shall see how that goes.

Speaking of dates, I had one tonight. The younger guy I'd been talking to, Jason, and I went out for pizza and then had a nice walk. I really like him! It's not a consuming fury of a spark type of liking, but it's a friendliness with some attraction also there. I'll talk more about it later. It's past my bedtime. I have been giving sleep short shrift lately.
 
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OK, so Jason. Man, we had a great time! I laughed so much, and I barely felt awkward, and the age difference (7 years) was so not even a thing. He said he's felt like an old man for a long time, LOL. He's had the same career since he was 21 and is married and owns a house, and all the "adult stuff." He even looks more like he's my age than his own. I'm glad I didn't let the being-27 thing scare me away.

We talked about everything under the sun, including our partners. It's so nice to date actual poly people! Like, if I want to tell a story to which my partner is integral, I don't have to feel like I'm weirding the other person out, because they probably just told one themselves.

Coincidentally, he has the same exact job as Rider, but for a different company. I think those two will probably get along, and he's into the kitchen-table thing. I think I'll have another date or two with him and then introduce the two of them if stuff is going well, in keeping with the magic kitchen-table flowchart.

There was one moment of awkwardness when we were hugging goodbye and then he kissed me and I wasn't expecting it, so I didn't really kiss back. Not that I wouldn't have. Just that I wasn't thinking about it. Unless there's just the right circumstances, I don't usually kiss on the first date.

But after I got home, I was kinda wishing I had, so I sent him a text apologizing for being surprised and awkward, and saying "next time." And I'm excited about it! Whenever next time will be...

He's not someone I would have picked out of a lineup knowing nothing else about him, but thanks to the matching our friend vibe is really strong, and it's definitely the kind of slowly warming connection that happens to me more often than the lightning kind.

I don't think I will be seeing him in the next little while, though, because the next nine days of my life are utter jam-packed insanity. My schedule:

Tonight - Hang with Rider and Rebecca and her sister because it's Rebecca's last night in town.

Tomorrow - Help Rebecca load her truck in the early afternoon, chat with Desi (the lovely transwoman I have been talking to) on IM while Rider watches football, and then in the evening jam with a Florida friend who is passing through town and wants to work on music with us.

Sunday - Two OKC dates in the afternoon, rehearse music with Rider in the evening.

Monday - Music event and Pilates.

Tuesday - Dinner with Oona, Mel, and Tina.

Wednesday - Another friend is passing through town and I haven't seen her in years so I want to try to catch her.

Thursday - Rider and I have concert tickets.

Friday - My birthday dinner and massage!

Saturday - Hiking with friends to celebrate my birthday

And then my actual birthday is on Monday, so I'll be spending that evening just chilling with Rider after Pilates, probably. So that leaves just next Sunday to potentially follow up with any of the new people I'm meeting, or to squeeze in more meetings.

I currently have three guys I'm talking to: Jason and the two I'll be seeing Sunday. And, gosh, a LOT of girls. Desi is the one I've talked to the most, but there are five (!) more. Two are mostly friend material, I think. Desi and four of the others, I have more of a date-like interest in. I have a hiking excursion planned with one of them in a couple of weeks. And I really like Desi so far. She's as busy as I am, though, so I have no clue when we will actually hang out. So far, she has been a good internet friend. :)

Obviously I will not be able to seriously date this many people. I'm not even interested in "serious" right now. This is all just going to be fun and "see what goes where with whom."

For me, cis ladies tend to be more FWB than romantic partners, so if I click with all of them, I will probably start inviting them to group-of-friends hangouts and stuff pretty early (after first meeting one-on-one) and keep the sex aspect super casual and "it happens when it happens."

I am actually toying around with the idea of starting a poly ladies' hiking group, since most of the people I am interested in are also into nature stuff, and having a bunch of people with common interests all hanging out would take some of the social pressure off of me. It's so weird—my introversion does not preclude me from being perfectly happy being an event or group planner/organizer. I'm happy being a facilitator and then letting most of the people who show up handle the business of socializing. :confused: :cool:

With Desi and the guys, whom I am likelier to fall for and want regular sex with, if I click with all of them, and if I have two days/nights per week available to date, I could potentially see each of them once every couple of weeks or so. I specifically say in my profile that I am looking for less-entangled stuff, and that seems about right.

If one of the connections really takes off, I would (of course) re-evaluate, but I'd be happy as hell to have even ONE new person I can hang with once every two weeks—like, even if none of the others work out, I'd be happy seeing Jason that sporadically, I think. Such infrequent contact is fine because even if I fall in love, I'm not trying to be anyone's official girlfriend or do escalator stuff at this time. I'm so used to all of my non-Rider partners being long distance that twice a month would positively SPOIL me. ;)
 
I should also update that Rider heard back from the friend we'll be staying with in Florida about whether Sam can stay there with us. He totally can! I just passed the info along to him. I hope he can make it. I'm pretty sure he can. I am thrilled at the idea of seeing him.

Also, I am working on another playlist for Beckett, keeping that friendship thing alive.

And I have been chatting with Jake about mundane things—his house-buying process, our families, etc.

I have tentacles out to all my peoples right now, haha.

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Friday night and the early part of Saturday were spent seeing Rebecca off to her move. Saturday afternoon was spent getting some work done and chatting with Desi online while Rider watched football.

Saturday night, my Florida friend came over and we all jammed. I have always had a bit of a subtle, low-level crush on this friend (we held hands once, years ago), but I don't know them super well, and while they are an amazing person (smart, sweet, talented in about a gazillion ways), they always seemed mired in unrequited-love-type relationship drama, so I never fan the flames. It didn't even seem relevant to mention to Rider, it was so small.

Well, after hanging out, it turned out that Rider also had developed a crush on them. I don't think they are into guys, though. At least, I have never heard them talk about guys, and they identified as a lesbian woman when I first met them. Now they identify as androgynous. I am not sure if their attraction parameters are fluid at all. I told Rider not to get his hopes up. And, for my part, I did my best to ignore the little spark that has always flared up between us. They have always been masculine enough—tall, lanky, and just my typical-boy-type—that my "this is a hot boy" spidey senses were activated and I felt some organic attraction, even if they are not actually a boy. Attraction is weird.

We had a really good time with them, though. They are quite accomplished at guitar for someone who has been playing for only as long as I have been playing bass. I am not surprised, though. They are generally good at whatever they put their mind to. I had to shut the fun down around 1 a.m., though, because I had to get up early to get ready for my dates.

My Sunday dates, well, so...

Guy One was the hot and perfect-on-paper one...and he was indeed very pretty IRL. But, like, oddly child-like? Like, skipping across the street, and clapping with delight at things. He seemed more 20 than 30. His girlfriend is 21, so maybe that's part of it.

He also had about him a kind of swishy seeming-gayness even though he's straight? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it surprised me.

He's obviously very intelligent—has a hard science PhD acquired in a non-English-speaking country despite being from the USA. But he's very, very odd. I can work with odd, but I'm not so sure here. I guess I will probably try?

Anyway, we got along fine in person, but his text communication on either side was sometimes oddly grating. Like, the part I've already mentioned here where he was really forceful about meeting up super fast IRL, citing too many people ghosting.

And, even worse, afterward, he said I was "a reasonable level of intelligent" which seemed like a vague almost-compliment couched in superiority. Instead of taking it lying down, I ribbed him for it:

"LOL, 'a reasonable level of intelligent'; did you just give me an 'S for satisfactory'?"

His reply just dug the hole even further:

"I don't give out accolades before they are won. I am also good enough at statistics to know that you shouldn't take every correlation and extrapolate to infinity."

Ugh, really?

So, he may be super smart, but he's obviously also super elitist about it and does not have the good sense to know when to keep his mouth shut about his opinions. The "between the lines" there is "I'm judging you." Which, on a first date is always the case. But you're supposed to be subtle about it. LOL

All of this smacks a little too much of The Ex for my tastes...which is a shame, because this guy is soooo pretty!

So that was the first guy. And then, hilarity ensued:

As I mentioned, I had back to back dates with these guys, both downtown. My date with the first one involved a skyscraper observation deck, and he pointed out his building where he lives.

As I got close to being done with Guy One, I texted Guy Two asking where he wanted to meet, because I didn't remember if we'd named a place. While I waited for a response, Guy One and I parted ways near the train station, and he headed home on foot.

When I heard back from Guy Two, he reminded me that he'd mentioned a coffee shop. He said to tell him right then if I wanted to change locations, so he could head the right direction because he was about to go on his way. So I said, coffee shop, OK, fine.

Afterward, I looked up where the coffee shop is, and it's the same block where Guy One said that he lives, which is like a 15-minute walk away from where I was at that moment.

So I had to sit there and brainstorm how to not accidentally be seen by Guy One and either seem like I'm stalking him or blowing my cover that I'm on back-to-back dates! Total sitcom shit!

I decided to just Lyfted to the coffee shop and darted right in as fast as I could. It was ridiculous. If I saw that in a show I'd think it was unbelievable. But it was my real life.

And so Guy Two...

I knew he was short—his profile said 5'5" and we discussed how I really don't have a problem with that. But then when he stood up to hug me hello when I arrived at the coffee shop (which my arrival is a whole other funny story I have to tell)....I discovered that he is legit shortER than me, and I'm just a bit under 5'4". Which means that he lied on his profile, which NEVER flies well with me. The height itself, whatever, but the lie...UGH!

But he was nice and friendly and the conversation flowed well. Overall, I liked him as a person and would hang out again. The other two sticking points, if I am to consider him for more than friendship, were these:

1) Pretty early on in the conversation, we were talking about work, and he starts saying how I should try to get equity shares in my company, and giving all these reasons, and explaining how he does that for his employees. Well, OK, a bit of business advice I'd never thought of. (That I am unlikely to follow, but whatever.) But he kind of bulldogs it and when I have clearly sent out subtle signals that I am ready to be done with the topic, but still trying to be more polite than just bluntly changing the subject, he doesn't pick my hints up and is still going. It got kind of frustrating and boring. I did not come on a date to talk about business.

2) I got the sense that he maybe harbors a little bitterness about how poly has gone for him so far, in terms of the imbalance between him and his partner. She apparently has had a great many partners at any given time, while he really has barely had any.

It also sounds like they may have poor boundaries, based on a few things he's said. For one, she started dating a close neighbor despite his discomfort, and he didn't feel OK standing up for himself or having what GalaGirl calls a "messy people list." Secondly, their other bed is in a common area, so her other partners are always kind of in his face. Thirdly, it sounds like he puts more into the relationship than he reaps, and people who are comfortable getting walked on ring my alarm bells.

I totally get the "feeling an imbalance" thing, because I've been there with Rider. But I have not allowed it to make me bitter, and I think the poor-boundary stuff probably contributes largely to the bitterness. I also think he probably dished more dirt on his relationship than I needed to hear on the first date (so again with the boundary thing).

So, for both of these guys...maybe there is just a theme of poor judgment? I liked Jason from Thursday waaay better than either of these guys so far. However, I think I will give them both a second chance because maybe they were each having an "off" day? I sure have those, and I'd hate someone to completely dismiss me based on a bad first impression. I'm going to be busy for the next couple of weeks, so they have time to impress me (or not) over text/IM in the meantime, before they get their in-person second chance.

My dinner with Oona, Mel, and Tina tomorrow was canceled, so I've already offered Jason a second date. I've also cleared my Wednesday because my visiting friend is going to be around till the weekend, and I'm going to try to see her on Saturday night instead of going out on a school night. I'll spend tomorrow night practicing my bass instead.

Last night, Rider and I practiced music and got tasty Korean food and ate ice cream and vegged in front of the TV for a while. It's exactly what I needed after those two bizarre dates. We also had really yummy sex before bed. He is my safe place, my home, my rock, my "sure thing." Collapsing onto him and melting into him after a rough day of humaning is the most relieving feeling in the world.

Tonight, after Pilates, I am going over by the beach to do some hippie meditation thing. It's a "me thing" that I am doing by and for myself. Should be interesting. :)
 
Dinner with friends tonight was reinstated, so I've moved my second date with Jason to tomorrow evening before music practice with Rider. I am getting excited about it! Jason continues to be really awesome and nice over text. I am developing a legit crush, I think. :)
 
My Tuesday dinner plans with friends went well. Tina had bought a Groupon that paid for the dinner in advance. It was really nice of her.

My Wednesday nacho date with Jason also went well. It was pretty uneventful—we just sat and ate and chatted. And then made out a little afterward. I like him, but it's nothing fiery, at least not yet.

Kissing him was OK. It was a bit...rougher...than I am used to. But still not bad? It definitely wasn't one of those instant compatibility or instant incompatibility situations. I've kissed people where the chemistry was instantly sparks flying. And I've kissed people where the chemistry was just "nope, never doing this again!" This was neither—vaguely pleasant, just this side of neutral.

I did invite him to our band's show, so he may meet Rider then if he decides to attend.

Last night, Rider and I went to see a concert with Tina and Mel. It was a lot of fun! I had consumed more edibles than usual, so I just kind of bobbled along for the ride. Tina's brash, talkative personality doesn't even bother me when I'm stoned apparently. Which is good to know!

I am SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS WEEKEND!

Tonight, Rider is taking me out for Indian dinner and tiki drinks! Oona and Toby are going to join us because Oona has decided to opt out of tomorrow. Tomorrow is psychedelic hiking in the day and then nighttime beach picnic after. Sunday a friend from way back in the day is in town, so Rider and I are going to breakfast and then the art museum with her. SO MUCH FUN STUFF!

Tonight will be the second of only two times of drinking this month. My percentage is currently at 90.74% but will be 89.09% after tonight. I am doing so well with this! It's so easy to turn down even free booze when I just think of how numbers don't lie and I don't want to drop my percentage too much. Two bottles of wine came with dinner on Tuesday, and I wasn't even tempted. I took a small sip of each just to see what they tasted like, but had no desire for a glass of my own.

But tonight! Tonight I will have delicious, fruity libations! I've been planning for it all month! :D
 
It's my birthday! :D I had a great weekend. Dinner and drinks Friday were delicious. The hiking trip was incredible. The art show at the museum yesterday was fun. I maybe could have gotten a little more sleep than I did, but whatever. I'll make up for it later this week.

I just found out that I am off the hook for one of the conferences this fall, which I am excited about because I really didn't want to go to three in a row plus my vacation to see my family all in the space of six weeks. So that's some good birthday news.

I ran into Guy 2 from last week out at the art show yesterday. He was there with his partner and her partner, but they were elsewhere in the space, and he wanted to make Rider and I stand around talking to him till they wandered by. I don't do well with unexpected having to socialize. Additionally, I really didn't feel the need to be introduced to his entire polycule without being prepared for it.

So I was not super happy about any of that. It was another grain on the "no" side of the scale about whether I should continue to date him. It's hard for me to handle when people get super excited about running into me unexpectedly, when all I want to do is run away! One of the things I love about living in a big city is that I feel at least the illusion of being pretty anonymous most of the time. I hate having that illusion shattered.

I might have reacted less negatively if he hadn't already had so many things already against him: the lying on his profile (about his height), the jumping the gun texting about cuddling before we'd met, the seeming slight bitterness about the imbalance between his dating and his partner's dating...there's some kind of whiff of...I dunno, maybe desperation?...about the whole thing, and I am not very into it.

Afterward, I was talking to my friend who was there with me about the profile lying, and she said she understands it because she lies about her age on there. I am not even sure how old she is, but I think like 45–47. She said she lies and shaves years off so she shows up in more people's searches.

I believe that people just shouldn't lie about stuff like that. First of all, ethics aside, it's pretty dumb to lie about stuff that will have to come out eventually (and in the case of height, the instant you meet someone). Secondly, it seems super disrespectful not to trust potential dates to know their own minds and what they want or don't want.

Like, if there is a guy who seems totally awesome in all other ways, but he's only looking for women under the age of 32, or women over 5'6" tall, then I want nothing to do with him romantically, and I certainly don't want to try to trick him into meeting me by pretending I am those things he's looking for. I would always have that idea in the back of my head that I used deception, which would tarnish my self respect, and I'd also always feel insecure that what he's actually looking for is the thing I represented myself to be, not the thing that I am. It makes no sense to me! :confused:

OK, off to finish some work. I'm pretty sleepy today. I'd like a nap for my birthday. LOL
 
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! :D:D:D

OK so don't take this personally, but I share this video with ALL the birthday peeps, it's my go-to HBD song...and it's kinda catchy and not horribly annoying and Voltaire is the shexshy, so here ya go...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ_ZQkV58Cc

I hope you have a lovely nap! That sounds like the sort of thing I'd ask for, for my birthday!
 
Happy Birthday!!! So glad you had an awesome b-day weekend :D

Like, if there is a guy who seems totally awesome in all other ways, but he's only looking for women under the age of 32, or women over 5'6" tall, then I want nothing to do with him romantically, and I certainly don't want to try to trick him into meeting me by pretending I am those things he's looking for. I would always have that idea in the back of my head that I used deception, which would tarnish my self respect, and I'd also always feel insecure that what he's actually looking for is the thing I represented myself to be, not the thing that I am. It makes no sense to me! :confused:

Amen! I don't want to be the girl someone settles for, because they can't get the girls they really want.

I get messages all the time from guys who list their age range as 25-34, or mention having a thing for goth girls with tattoos. I just ignore them mostly. I did chat with one guy... He asked me out, and I nicely told him no thanks, because his age range was 22-30 (he was 37). He pitched a fit and said he only wrote 30 because the site "made him pick a number". Obviously 35, 37, 40, are not numbers... :rolleyes:
 
Happy late birthday! I hope you have an awesome b-day week :)

(And, I totally agree with you on the okc thing. I don't like when they lie about age or relationship status. Lying is lying.)
 
Thanks for the birthday wishes, everyone!

Spork, that video was pretty funny! I'd never seen it before, so thanks for something new! :p

Also, thanks for muddling through that post. I just went back and re-read it and that was some of my most unclear writing ever. I think my lack of sleep was fogging up my brain!

It was a good birthday. Rider made me tacos for dinner, and we watched the debate and then a bit of TV while we ate. We also practiced our songs—only five days left till the show, eeeek!

I didn't get to take a nap, but I did drag Rider to bed an hour early. We had really hot sex and then got an extra hour of sleep. It was marvelous. I think 35 is going to be a good year. :D
 
I've been really lazy about texting any of my new people back. Things with Rider are so safe and happy and warm. The only thing that is missing for me is the electric jolt that NRE brings that makes me feel somehow more alive, and the sexual variety that it leads to. But none of the new people (so far, anyway) give me that jolt. I've run through all of the guys, and I usually don't get "jolted" by the ladies.

As I biked home Monday, I found myself thinking some pretty abstract thoughts about that, that are hard to put into words, but I will try.

Like, what if the reason I never start liking anyone anymore is, in part, because I have now discovered that those two little things (hyped-up brain chemicals and sexual variety) are not only the only things missing, but not really necessary after all?

It was maybe different before my NRE with Rider wore off—I could almost kinda believe that it could last forever. But if it would have lasted forever with anyone, then it would have with him. And it didn't. Which proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is indeed temporary.

And the sexual variety thing, yeah, I miss it sometimes. But it's weird. Without sexual variety, my sex drive pretty much goes away after NRE. But my sex drive being gone doesn't...really...bother me that much? Like, the idea of it bothers me. There's a wistful remembering of what it was like to feel desire. But almost by definition, lack of wanting something is, in itself, a kind of contentment.

And I still enjoy sex when I have it. I still enjoy making Rider happy that way. I just don't really want it that much for myself, as a free-standing desire.

I started dating again because I felt sad that I wasn't having those feelings for anyone. I felt like I was missing out on part of what the "adult experience" is supposed to be like. But what if it's not "supposed to be like" anything, except for whatever it already is for me?

I have such envy sometimes of all the people I hear about, including here, who just have independent sex drives, where it's not tied to a particular person, or to the chemistry of NRE, or anything. Their body just says "hey, I want sex!" a lot of the time. What does that even feel like? I'm not sexually repressed or unhappy with my life—quite the opposite. I'm down for pretty much whatever sexually, and I'm pretty overall content with my life. In fact, I think I need sex more when I am unhappy—like if Rider and I are fighting, or if I'm feeling jealous of someone else, then I need that extra physical connection to soothe me. It's an emotional pacifier more than a physical desire, so if I'm happy otherwise, than I just need it less.

I'm still working out how to stoke desire in myself to heighten my enjoyment of the sex that we do have. Once in a while, I unlock something new, which is cool.

So my reasoning is something like this:

1. I'm absolutely happy with Rider. He's the perfect best friend and companion, and we do have great sex, and I literally cannot imagine a better partner for me. If I'm not lacking companionship, or sex, and if I know that NRE is the only thing that makes desire come back, then NRE is kind of the main thing I'm looking for with dating.

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2. NRE is temporary with anyone.
a. I don't like breakups and am sick of getting my heart broken while I am still in NRE with people.​
b. Polysaturation is a thing, so if I found someone new who didn't break my heart, then I'd maybe just be back in this same low-libido boat with an additional partner to satisfy and even less time in another few years.​

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3. The idea of looking for another relationship just for the NRE jolt is kinda dumb. Because I already have everything ELSE I need, and even getting that jolt is likely going to either hurt me eventually or put me in the same situation I'm in now. The only way out of this would be if I discover that the sexual variety of having more than one long-term partner somehow cancels out the NRE-end causing low-libido thing.

So with this reasoning, I've kinda circled back around to "what's the point of dating?" again. Maybe I just can't seem to really like anyone new very much because my body and subconscious already arrived at this before my conscious mind did. I don't really know. I waffle on this constantly. I try dating, get little or no results, get disillusioned, and give up for a while. Maybe someone will come along unexpectedly and knock my socks off. I'm still into showing up at poly events and seeing if there's any kind of chemistry anywhere, I suppose.

My super-pickiness is just so...innate and unchangeable. Every time I try to give someone a chance despite tiny, niggling doubts, it turns out I should have listened to my inner voice whispering "no, probably not" all along, so it's not like I should even be LESS picky—if nothing else, maybe I should be MORE so. But that doesn't leave much.

I dunno. I'll probably keep hanging out with Jason and see what happens. I'll probably try to meet up with Desi soon too. But mostly I just miss my reliably electric, unfortunately mono East Coast boys that I can't date anymore. :|
 
I've spent the past few evenings cramming for our show that's coming up Saturday night. It'll be the first time people have ever paid money to watch me play the bass. Eek! So I feel like I have to be on top of my game.

Monday night Rider and I practiced together. Tuesday we meant to, but the naughty cat (peeing on the sofa) and the broken laundry machines (necessitating a trip to the laundromat) made chores the order of the evening instead. Last night was our only practice with our fill-in drummer. It went pretty well overall, but underscored the places where I still felt weak.

The fill-in drummer's main gig is actually touring with a relatively well-known one-hit wonder '90s band, so he's kinda slumming playing a dive bar with us when he's used to playing for thousands, but he's a friend of Perry's, and all Perry's people are good. He seems like a nice guy.

Tonight, Rider and I spent a couple hours shoring up my weak spots—mostly the more recently added bridges and outros that for some reason I was having trouble committing to memory. Some of our songs are really complicated. The keyboardist and drummer both get to have notes handy, and Rider and Perry are both savants at memorizing music. So that leaves me the lone weak link who has to cram like a college student before finals, haha.

I'll be practicing again tomorrow. We'll see if I feel solid enough to go out with Rider tomorrow night. He's planning to hit karaoke with Joel and Carrie, then meet up with a group he recently got involved with. It's a fan group for his favorite band. He's hoping to make some friends and really wants me to come out with him. It all depends on how the music stuff goes. I can't let the band down!

Speaking of Rider, wow, I am just madly, madly in love with him right now. I shared yesterday's post with him shortly after I wrote it, and, as always, it stimulated a good talk. He loves me exactly as I am, weird pickiness, fickle libido, and all. We struck a deal where he would give me a backrub (my favorite thing!) and I'd tie him up and do some kinky stuff and get him off. I totally enjoy doing that—it's never a hassle or a chore—and when I don't feel like being touched sexually, myself, it's a fantastic solution.

Rider is awesome and kind of unique in that he has enough kinks and enjoys non-penetrative stuff enough that there are a ton of things we can do to satisfy him without my panties ever coming off. He's always been this way; neither of his college girlfriends were ready to have intercourse while he was actually in college, and he was plenty satisfied with doing other things with them. In fact, other, later girlfriends sometimes complained that he wasn't into "regular sex" enough.

While he did eventually come to really like that stuff (and it was never a problem for us), he's still just as (or more) excited about getting a HJ with his hands tied and my toes in his mouth as he is banging me like crazy. All of this lines up very well with my current phase of preferring to be somewhat of a...almost sensation scientist with him—a focused but detached actor upon him to get the most rise out of him, while never having to worry about my own pleasure or arousal or lack thereof. That sounds weird AF, but it's working for us.

Sharing my writings and feelings with him and being totally, wholly accepted for who I am and whatever phase I'm in is an aphrodisiac in itself. I dreamt last night of how much I love him, and I woke so intensely happy to be next to him. We hugged for a long time before leaving for work, and I just cherish the shit out of him. Total love buzz. We were saying sweet stuff to each other all day over IM, in between bursts of work, and I was grinning at my screen like a fool.

And now, it is late, and I am looking forward to doing more sexy things with him before we have to sleep. Goodnight!
 
Friday night was fun. I did end up making it out to karaoke with Rider, Carrie, and Joel, though I missed the music meetup (I had the order reversed in my last post).

Our show last night was GREAT! We were very well received! I was nervous right before, but I did fine. I barely messed up and people told me how good we (and I!) sounded. There was even mention of how if we had CDs, people would have bought them! So yay for creative success!

One thing that sucked was that my cramps decided to get BRUTAL right before the show. Like, stabbing all the way down to my labia brutal. So I had to take some ibuprofen so they didn't distract me from performing. And, of course, ibuprofen destroys my stomach, so I was awakened my stomach pain after sleeping for only six hours.

I spent some time researching solutions on the internet and discovered that Prilosec would help me, but that's not something we normally keep around. Sometimes just putting something in my stomach helps, so I had some soy milk. As I lay there waiting for it to kick in, I read some blog posts here, and, man, they provoked so many thoughts! I eventually drifted off for another couple hours. Rider got up and went on a store run to get me the medicine, then came back to bed to cuddle me, and we talked about all the thoughts I had from the blog posts. I'm going to try to outline them here rather than gum up the blogs of the people who posted them; hopefully the thoughts are not too jumbled!

So Guitarist got home from his naked party, which apparently turned into a sex party later in the night. I'm glad he had a good time. But some of the details. So many Feelings.

Apparently a woman was all over him and they were making out and she wanted to have sex with him. He turned her down because of our agreement where we will talk first before doing sex with other people. That's what's supposed to happen, right? That's not supposed to touch all my insecurity buttons. Oh, but it did.

At least drunk Guitarist didn't do self-destructive having sex with someone and telling me about it later, wheeeeee.

And also Spicewife expressed an interest in a three-way. From his tone, I gathered there's a mutual interest there. That's less bothersome to me, actually, because I know Spicewife and she's cool. Though I told him I'd need a little bit to process before getting back to him. I mostly need reassurance on the barriers/testing points, though I don't think overall it's likely to add much risk, since Spicewife and Spice are already partners and all that, so I'm likely already getting any risk of exposure through Spice/Guitarist.

He said that he felt the need to tell me in the interests of full disclosure, because he would've felt like he was hiding things if he didn't mention them. I'm glad he told me, even if it did result in all kinds of Feelings.

It's pretty rare for me that a story from someone else's life will make me feel anxious, but this story did that! I immediately put myself in Autumn's shoes, and I know I'd be feeling the exact same way about the all-over-him woman. Probably worse. But...why?

As I fell back to sleep, I lay there thinking about that. I kept tweaking aspects of the story to see which scenarios made me anxious when I considered them, and which felt fine. Like Autumn, the Spice/Spicewife thing would have been the lesser of the "evils," because, for me, known-quantity people are always less scary than new people.

I started with an easy scenario: if Rider had told me an identical story to this, but it had happened before he met me. My response? Oh, what a fun sexy adventure to have had. So the negative response to the idea while he's actually with me must be some kind of "being in a relationship limits autonomy" thing.

Tweak #2. What if I had been there at the party too, and Rider and I had met the woman at the same time, and she'd seemed cool, and he told me he'd be interested in going off with her. My response? Generally overall positive. I'm "in on it"—some kind of partner in crime. The person, while not totally a known quantity, has seen my face, and I hers. We can attach humans to the concepts of "partner" and "woman at party." It becomes a sexy adventure that I am "helping" Rider achieve.

Talking about this scenario, Rider and I isolated two different buttons, both of which I have encountered and done some working through here before:

1. The fear-of-missing-out (FOMO) button. If I am "in on" something, it is still kind of an "us" adventure, and I am still sort of a part of it in spirit, if not in the flesh.

2. The invisibility button. I detest the idea of just being an abstract concept to people Rider might get with, and for those people to be a total mystery to me. Kind of like how it's supposed to help kidnapped people stay safe if they can be "humanized" to their abductor, I feel like a person is much less likely to do something "against" me if I am more than just abstract-concept "partner," and if they can see the real love Rider and I have between us. And on the opposite side, if I can see how real another woman is, get a sense of her, however brief, then she ceases to be a bogeyman and becomes a real person to me that I share at least one thing in common with.

Then we started talking about our own agreements. We don't have the same exact "talk before sex happens" agreement. We've agreed that, as long as there is condom usage, one-night stands without talking first are acceptable. But they have to be one-night stands. If it seems like the person is someone we might be interested in having an ongoing connection to then, yes, we talk about it and make sure everyone is nice to each other and cool with the situation before sex happens.

Which led to further tweaking, about stuff that wasn't mentioned in the original post. Is this someone he'd not be likely to see again? I think I'd be way less upset about it. It could just be a jarring event that was easily swept along as water under the bridge on my end, and a pleasant memory for the spank bank on his end. Is this someone he'll likely see at another party, or that he exchanged info with to make later plans together? This is where things get hairy.

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For me, the idea of his getting swept away in the heat of the moment with someone he might want to see again is terrifying. There's something about hormones and passion igniting and demanding to be satisfied that I fear, in a way that I don't fear the idea of his being calm and collected enough about the situation to follow protocol. Like, I feel like I trust logic-brain to make good decisions, and believe that passion-brain mostly makes bad decisions, and historically, decisions that he's made under the influence of passion-brain have been...maybe not overall bad decisions for him, but they have certainly been less pleasant for me, in terms of making him difficult to depend upon or to take my feelings into account.

Like, his hooking up with Kelly in the heat of the moment was the first step in a long cascade of Unpleasant Things for me. He admits in retrospect that all of that was poor timing and he shouldn't have handled it the way that he did, so that's not an issue in itself. It's just an example of a situation that has kind of programmed my feelings on the matter.

And this is where he threw me a curveball—something that I did not at all expect, and that opened up a whole new area of the map in our understanding of each other. He said that not doing things in the moment, when they first come up, actually increases the chances that passion-brain will overtake logic-brain and gum things up.

He said that he truly believes that if he'd been able to get more than just a handjob on the couch during that first hookup with Kelly—if there had been PIV sex in a bed—then it wouldn't have turned into the obsession that it did. We then spent some time discussing our own definition of "sex." I believe that, if there is consensual genital contact, and especially of one or both parties reach orgasm (he had), then it is sex. He...couldn't really give me a straight definition. At first, he said that what it was that they had done—a furtive, lube-less handjob—wasn't "sex." Later, as we refined our definition, he admitted that it was a form of sex, but explained that it wasn't enough to "scratch the itch" (his words) of the desire for sexual contact.

Instead, that one sexual experience acted as a teaser, and the fact that he wasn't able to do more with her for months basically just gave him months to talk to her and wind himself up and blow it up into something that, ultimately, it really was not. By the time they were able to have a weekend together (and their first overnight), they'd spent months talking about all the kinky stuff they'd do, and then because there'd been so much of it, they didn't get it all done in one weekend, so there had to be another one, and another one.

He said that if, in the moment, he's able to hook up with someone and satisfy that curiosity, it kind of gets it out of his system—that, with most people for him—the NRE and the crazy obsession comes in the buildup and the chase, and actually having sex with them re-stabilizes his brain. It's actually more dangerous (where danger is defined as desire making him blundery and stupid) to wait than to give in right away.

I found this utterly shocking because it is THE ABSOLUTE POLAR OPPOSITE of how my own innards work.

For me, if I'm interested in someone but then don't see them for a while, usually stuff cools off after a couple of weeks. And, for me, real NRE, the distracting, obsessive kind, mostly fires up AFTER I've had sex with them. Which is where the second blog post I was thinking about comes in.

I don't like casual sex, and I don't have any desire to have sex outside of a long term relationship of some kind. But I do find random people sexy, in an "if we relationshipped, I would totally fuck you" way. I don't need to know somebody well to think they're sexy - I just need to know them well to actually have good sex.

For example - I saw this incredibly hot guy at the running trails yesterday. And I totally spun a million fantasies in my head about him. But they all involved us hanging out, becoming friends, falling in love, and THEN having sex. The idea of having sex without that other stuff does nothing for me.

I feel super similar, but I think I compartmentalize it slightly differently. So, for me, there are three kinds of attraction.

1. Aesthetic attraction: the kind where you see someone hot and think "there is an incredibly hot person; I would like to talk to them and find out if they are compatible with me as well as pretty."

2. Physical attraction: chemistry, where you tingle when the person is close and want to get closer; where their kisses taste nice and make you feel warm.

3. Romantic attraction: aka "like-liking" someone, when you like them so much for their personality that you want to date them.

For me, when it comes to dating the people I am most attracted to (guys and transwomen) #2 and #3 are so closely intertwined that one literally cannot exist without the other. #1 is often the "gateway drug" which piques my interest in the first place, but it's not always necessary. I have been known to grow crushes on people after five years of non-romantic friendship if #3 gets so strong that #2 fires up, and it can happen completely in the absence of #1. And then #1 develops as a side effect, in that I start finding things cute about them that I never noticed before.

But if I meet a strong #1-type contender and I have no capability of romantic feelings for them due to lack of #3, with RARE, RARE exception (like only once ever, and it was a weird situation), I have no sexual desire for them whatsoever. Similarly, if I really like someone as a person, but we kiss and there is no chemical spark (lacking #2), then #3 dies on the vine.

I want to sleep with almost no one. I will occasionally see a good #1 out in the wild, but talking them almost always kills #3, making #2 also impossible. As I was explaining this to Rider, I came to understand it better myself. For me, sex is an expression of feeling. It is not just "a fun thing to do"—a recreational activity, like hiking or Scrabble. It is a relationship-building activity, of sorts. It is a beautiful art form that I create out of clay made of #3. Yes, it IS fun. And it IS pleasurable. But only when I like-like the person. Otherwise I...kinda don't even feel intense pleasure. Like, I feel like, OK, there is this person inside of my sexual parts, moving around, but it might as well be like touching my arm. And I am not really capable of orgasm in that situation.

The other side of this is that when I do like-like someone, and then have sex with them, I start to fall in love. My NRE blows up like crazy, and I am usually capable of orgasm with them after the first time we have sex and the NRE kicks in. So it goes like this: like-like --> sex --> NRE --> orgasm-capability --> love

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( . . . continued from previous)

Rider was an exception to this; we'd been friends a while, and I was in love with him before we even kissed. That first kiss, already being in love with him, was better than most actual intercourse I'd had up until that point. And the first time we were naked together, I had an explosive orgasm.

What all of this means is that I am basically incapable of casual sex, and I fall "in like" very rarely, but when it happens, very easily and very deeply. And if I am not yet "in like" with someone, I have no interest in anything beneath their clothes, no matter how aesthetically pleasing I might find them.

It's also interesting to note that this is true only for men and transwomen. Ciswomen have the opposite effect on me—I am less attracted to them overall, but casual sex is the only kind I can have with them. I don't fall in love. Orgasms via casual sex with them are not difficult to achieve as long as they are relatively skilled at oral. It's pretty weird.

So that's how my sexuality works.

Rider, as it turns out, is the complete opposite.

For him, #1 and #2 are more closely correlated. If he finds someone aesthetically pleasing, as long as they are not actively a jerk or really dumb, he can be physically attracted to them, want to have sex with them, and have orgasms pretty easily. Almost all sex is good sex. Sex is a fun activity to share with...I won't say just about anyone, because it's not quite like that...but let's just say that he's aesthetically attracted to a lot of people, and for him, aesthetic attraction matches sexual attraction almost 1:1.

He obviously can and does develop romantic attractions to women (and once, to a man), but there is also a large subset of women (and almost all men), where he feels about them the way that I feel about ciswomen: it's just kind of playing a fun game with a pretty person and there is not really much correlation with emotion.

We went over this for a while, with me trying to wrap my mind around it. He equates "crushes" with "lust," whereas I equate them with "like-like." Is that all it is, really? Is it all just lust, and I have just been socialized as a woman to think of it as something else? Because, for me, a crush is always a precursor to love, if something doesn't thwart it. If I have a crush on someone and they do not, over the course of our hanging out, do something to ruin it, and we start having sex, I will fall for them. I'll either fall in love with them, or something bad will happen and I fall out of like instead. But falling in love is the default setting when there is reciprocated, unimpeded like-like.

He said that he can lust after someone and squee over them and want to have sex with them, but that it is not "romantic." I asked him to define "romantic" then, or set it apart from "lustful" and he had trouble doing it. He said it's like, if he wants to have sex with someone but doesn't want to date them because their personalities don't mesh, or if he can't date them for some reason (example reasons he gave were "we don't fit into each other's lives" and "there isn't time"), then it is just lust and not romance. The second part mystified me because, to me, that's still "romantic"—it's just kind of romance that you know will be super short-term or otherwise doomed. But it's still a romance! At least, to me it is!

But then he said that he can "dial those feelings out if there's some reason it won't work" and it's not romantic anymore then. I have no clue about that one! How do you "dial your feelings out" while still pursuing and having sex with someone? :confused: I can only squelch feelings with distance and CERTAINLY no fucking! There are parts of the human experience that I just have no idea how to understand.

He said that romantic feelings are what makes him consider himself to be dating someone. He only considers someone romantic if they are "girlfriend material" which, when pressed, he defined as "someone who I'm attracted to that I can connect with deeply on an intellectual and emotional level."

But yet he had previously told me that he "was romantic with" Kelly but also that he didn't consider himself to be "dating" her (at which point she would have been considered "a girlfriend"). When I queried him about this today, he said that she was too young and too far away to be "someone he was actually dating."

I countered him by reminding him that they did weekends together and had sex whenever they got the chance (granted, due to the distance, this was in large bursts every other month or so) and bought each other gifts and he said he was romantic with her, and—to my outside perspective—the only thing that separated her from being an "official girlfriend" is how they chose to use words (they never exchanged "I love you" or used bf/gf terms) and they never made long-term future plans because we were all moving. He kind of shrugged and said it was a grey area with her. But anyway, to me, that kinda negates his assertion that romantic = girlfriend.

We talked for a while about definitions then: how we call our band a shoegaze band, but maybe we're more technically post-rock, and how labels are only accurate up until a point. And it's true. But, also...labels are words, and words are how we come to agree on concepts (more or less, at any given time). It's kinda...how language even works. We can only really understand each other if our definitions for words are similar enough. So, especially in close relationships, defining things like "sex" and "romantic" and "girlfriend" and...OK...well, maybe not so much "shoegaze"...LOL...but anyway, being able to come to a shared platform of definition for these terms is kinda CRUCIAL to poly, right?

If you and I are in a relationship, and we have expressed personal feelings around sex/relationships/romance with other people to each other, and we think we are on the same page in terms of those definitions, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY NOT, we are totally doomed to fall into traps of miscommunication and hurt feelings.

Rider said to me tonight that he is glad that I'm such a relationship nerd—that I think this stuff out and can spend endless hours (outside of crisis, even!) just thinking about and talking about and processing this stuff.

Even though he couldn't even give me exact definitions in a lot of cases today, I feel like we are so much closer to understanding each other. We may never totally understand each other. I'll never really know what it's like to live inside his giant, testosterone-filled skin, and the confidence and libido that instills. He'll never really know what it's like to fend off unwanted sexual advances from myriad leering, larger humans while still in middle school, and the selectivity, wariness of sex, and feeling of commodification that that instills.

But we love each other like crazy, and we try to communicate like crazy to bridge as much of that gap as we can. He loves me for raising questions, and I love him just as much for answering. We're two very different creatures, but we're on the same team. <3
 
I really enjoyed reading this. I've had men act like I was some kind of idiot child or crazy person or alien because I said that I could not control my emotions. It has really been something to learn that many men can "switch it off" if the woman isn't a proper candidate for emotional bonding.

I personally say that I cannot control my emotions/feelings, for the most part. I mean, sure, I can make sure I don't get too hungry and I get enough sleep, and try to fend off certain bad emotional states. But in general, my emotions are going to happen. I can sorta control my thoughts. If I remember to try. I absolutely own control over my words and actions.

So I might feel a thing but never speak of it or do anything about it, because I've deemed it inappropriate. The guy might shut down the Feel, but if he lets himself feel it, I've observed he's more likely to DO something about the Feel.

Like I've known guys who tried to say they were justified in violence because they were angry. They did not control the Feel, so it justified the Act. I on the other hand could feel the Feel but never do the Act. Of course I've known men with better self control who did not just act on every Feel they had, too, and plenty of impulsive women who didn't bother to think before Acting. But it wouldn't surprise me if there was some kind of evolutionary adaptation, to be able to lock away and compartmentalize emotions, and to act on them quickly without giving them lots of thought first...like a hunter/gatherer thing. *shrug* I dunno.

Boybrains are definitely different.

I've got more thoughts but I'll toss 'em in my own blog. Good thought provoking stuff here!
 
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