Very grumpy, am I wrong?

Emmy37

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I apologize if this gets long winded. There is a bit of a back story I need to explain before asking my questions. Last night I explained to Bud that I felt like the week had been very overwhelming and I was missing our quiet time at night when it was just him & I for a while. We never did anything too exciting but it was our alone time to sit, talk, reconnect, after I've worked all day and he's been with kids all day. I looked forward to those times at the end of each day. We usually had about 1-1.5 hours of that time before Sweet Lady came over.

This week has been horrible for Sweet Lady. I swear her horoscope should have said "Don't even bother, just go back to bed" every day this week. So she's been over here a lot more than usual. She has slept here every night. Her kids are all older teens so she says good night to them then comes next door to our place. The kids know they can come over if they need something. It's not unusual to find our kids at her place and her kids at our place on any given day. They go back and forth between both homes on a regular basis.

Anyhow, Bud is the one who puts our 3 yr old to bed. He's Daddy's little shadow and will not fall asleep without him in the room. Once he's asleep Bud tucks him into his bed and comes back downstairs. Last night he fell asleep instead of coming back down to be with me. I woke him up, asked him if he still wanted to come downstairs. He did but we didn't get our quiet time.

Then Sweet Lady came over. Her and I sat outside talking for about 20 minutes while I gave her a back rub. We came inside for a while then went to bed. We talked, cuddled and did what 3 adults in bed might be found doing on any given night. :D Bud kept trying to include me in the after snuggles. I gently declined, said Sweet Lady needs you tonight, gave them both kisses, said "I love you" to both and I will snuggle with you after she leaves for work. She has to be up at 4am, me 7:15am.

Fast forward to 4:39am when I wake up to use the bathroom and realized the alarm had not woken any of the 3 of us. Sweet Lady rushes out the door to avoid being late. Bud looks at my phone to see why the alarm didn't wake us only to realize I had turned it on for 4am but had not changed the day it was supposed to go off from Thurs to Friday. So my mistake made her late. :( I felt horrible.

Bud remembered I had requested one on one snuggle time with him after Sweet Lady left for work. Well when we snuggle it always leads to other things. In the midst of that he tells me to do something that's not necessarily a hard limit for me but I was having a difficult time with it. Which I expressed. His response was to point out it wasn't a hard limit, and he had told me to do it knowing I wouldn't like it as a punishment for making Sweet Lady late. I went from zero to 60 on the anger scale in a matter of milliseconds.

Yes, I screwed up in regards to Sweet Lady. I apologized for it more than once. But dang it punishing me for it during what was supposed to be our time felt REALLY bad. I came downstairs feeling angry and hurt. Am I wrong in feeling this way? Did I over react?
 
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Hi Emmy,

So, to repeat what I understand:

- You've been feeling a little delicate because you're craving some alone time with Bud
- Things are a bit intense at the moment, because Sweet Lady is having a rough time and has been at the house more often
- You accidentally set the alarm incorrectly and Sweet Lady was late
- Bud told you to do something that is somewhere between a soft and hard limit
- He did this as a punishment
- You were enraged and hurt

No, I don't think you overreacted.

I'm imagining that Bud was being playful/wicked and simply calling upon this recent event as a route into punishing you? Or was he actually displeased with you and genuinely felt that you deserved punishment?

It's likely that Bud didn't realise quite how badly you've been wanting this alone time. It happens in all kinds of relationships - D/s or not. Nobody can read the other's mind :)

I would suggest compiling a list of things that you do not want to do when feeling emotionally vulnerable / in need of connecting with him. Then agree that it's ok for you to tell Bud if you are feeling this, so that he can instantly avoid requesting that you do anything on that list.
 
Sweet Lady is unable to set her own alarm? Being late sometimes happens in life. Hardly unusual.

Is this kind of "punishment" part of a kink dynamic you agree to? Was this supposed to be a lame joke or flirtation?:confused:

Yes, it is appropriate to be upset in these circumstances. You wanted closeness and connection which he remembered but then he starts with this "punishment" thing which is alienating.

Could call him on it and tell him how you expect to be treated.

Galagirl
 
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First of all you need to set some firm boundaries regarding how often sweetlady can stay over. Also she is an adult who needs to set her own alarm.
 
Sweet Lady is unable to set her own alarm? Being late sometimes happens in life. Hardly unusual. yes She can but I offered to set it so the responsibility was mine

Is this kind of "punishment" part of a kink dynamic you agree to? Was this supposed to be a lame joke or flirtation?:confused: Bud is not only my husband but also my Master.
 
Sweet Lady is unable to set her own alarm? Being late sometimes happens in life. Hardly unusual. yechose to be responhe can but I offered to set it so the responsibility was mine

Is this kind of "punishment" part of a kink dynamic you agree to? Was this supposed to be a lame joke or flirtation?:confused: Bud is not only my husband but also my Master.

Well if he's your master and that is the type of dynamic you agreed to then sounds like he's being reasonable for punishing you. you chose to be responsible for her alarm, you screwed up. Sounds like you forfeited your special snuggle time as a natural consequence too.
 
Hi Emmy,

Ok, so bud is not just your husband/Dom, but your husband/Master.

I understand that you took responsibility for setting the alarm and that responsibility is of high importance for you.

How you feel about this and what you want to/can do about it depends on the Master/slave agreement that you and Bud have made. As Bud's slave, have you handed over complete control to the point where it's not ok to say what makes you uncomfortable? Or does Bud welcome your honest communication about what makes you uncomfortable?

If you have a complete and utter Master/slave arrangement, the tendency here would be to focus on taking responsibility for your mistake (not setting the alarm properly) by abiding by your Master's will, even if that makes you uncomfortable. If you had not set a hard limit on this thing and you have handed over full control to your Master, you have agreed to be treated any way that Bud sees fit.

As a Domme myself, the Mistress/slave dynamic is not something that sits well with me for this exact reason. However, it doesn't mean that I don't understand or appreciate the dynamic and how it can work for others.

Basically, I think you must listen to your own needs. Do you want to hand over complete control to Bud and therefore trust in his punishments? Or do you want to hand over most control, but be able to renegotiate boundaries and talk about when something has had a negative mental effect on you?
 
It is still ok to be upset here.

As for how to best respond? Well, he's your Master.

  • Was this type of "punishment" in your agreement or not?
  • Does your agreement include time/space for you to give Master feedback?
  • Are your current kink agreements healthy for you?
  • Are the current soft/hard limits working for you?

In other words, are your current kink agreements working for you or do they need updating or clarifying?

Maybe you don't want to be in "kink mode" when there's "crisis with partner mode" afoot stretching people thin.

Was this a mistake like one isolated incident? Or part of a larger concern?

Galagirl
 
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You have a right to any emotions that arise in you. Period. Even in a kink dynamic.
What you don't have a right to is any form of BEHAVIOR as a result of your feelings.


No one here knows what the agreement is in your M/s relationship. Thus we can't for certain say what you can/can't do.
But-it should exist somewhere for you to be able to ask Master to speak freely about your emotions.

In OUR dynamic; punishments are not ever meted out in front of an audience. But-that's a personal decision we made prior to agreeing to our dynamic.
 
Thank you everyone for the feedback. I also want to thank everyone for their honesty and not just telling me what would have been easy to hear. I do have times when I can speak freely to Bud and that's what I asked for this morning. I explained everything I was feeling to him. His reason for the punishment was valid. Sweet Lady has had a rough week and my mistake added to stress she has already been feeling. His explanation makes sense. It also makes me feel worse for the mistake AND for walking out of the room angry. I should have been thinking more clearly.

As for whether or not I want this dynamic the answer is a resounding yes! It makes me feel free to be myself. It is who I am. I work as a crisis counselor so my work days are full of decision making, being in charge and on top of things at all times. Coming home to a man who loves me more than life itself whom I trust with my entire life is very liberating. I know it sounds strange to hear someone say that being a slave is liberating but anyone who shares this mindset will understand exactly what I mean.

The fact is I messed up big time this morning not only with the alarm but by losing sight of the big picture by becoming angry. :(
 
Ok-so now it's time to take that information, file it for future reference, so it doesn't happen again and then go on with life with a better outlook.
Don't internalize it and beat yourself up-that will only keep you from being able to focus on the details again! :)
We live, we screw up, if we're smart, we learn. :)
 
I am not an expert at all in matters of BDSM and kink, so here is a vanilla perspective. :)

The critical moment (from what I observed) was when Bud wanted to punish you and in so doing triggered an angry response.

I know he's your Master but I don't know how you feel about the idea of being punished. It kind of sounds like Bud had standing permission to punish you anytime he thought it was appropriate.

Perhaps this is a time to re-examine how you feel about being punished in general, what kinds of punishments are okay with you, and what circumstances work/do not work for you as times for you to be punished.

Perhaps the best way to answer your thread title, "Very grumpy, am I wrong?" is to ask you this: If the exact same scenario were to recur sometime in the future, what (if anything) would you like to think would turn out different? Would you like to think that you'd be more accepting of Bud's proposed punishment, or would you like to think that Bud wouldn't propose a punishment (or at least not something that severe) under that circumstance?

The answer to that question may help you to decide whether you and Bud need to adjust/clarify your Master/slave agreement/s, or whether you just need to resolve to handle your own (slave) roll better in the future.

Does that make sense?
 
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