Feeling All the Feels

MsEmotional- out of curiosity, do you ever see a counselor just for yourself? It sounds like you have some deep-seated self-esteem and anxiety issues and I suspect you'd be much more comfortable if you were able to work some of them out.

It's the holidays and people get stressed for various reasons. Sex drives go down, etc. It doesn't mean that it's about you. Should they have taken it personally when you were having issues having sex with them? No- because it wasn't about them, right?

If someone only wants to be with you to have sex with you, is that really the kind of romantic relationship you want to be in anyway? I wouldn't worry about it.
 
MsEmotional- out of curiosity, do you ever see a counselor just for yourself? It sounds like you have some deep-seated self-esteem and anxiety issues and I suspect you'd be much more comfortable if you were able to work some of them out.

It's the holidays and people get stressed for various reasons. Sex drives go down, etc. It doesn't mean that it's about you. Should they have taken it personally when you were having issues having sex with them? No- because it wasn't about them, right?

If someone only wants to be with you to have sex with you, is that really the kind of romantic relationship you want to be in anyway? I wouldn't worry about it.

Thanks Vicki. Yes, I have a therapist that I have been seeing for a few years. I’ve made a lot of progress with her, but I have noticed that at times of stress my insecurities really come out.

Things went great on Friday and I am in a much better place now. I still wish I had better ways of handling my insecurities more proactively though.
 
Thanks Vicki. Yes, I have a therapist that I have been seeing for a few years. I’ve made a lot of progress with her, but I have noticed that at times of stress my insecurities really come out.

Things went great on Friday and I am in a much better place now. I still wish I had better ways of handling my insecurities more proactively though.

Sexual response is a tricky beast. Women, men and people of all genders struggle with libido from time to time.

I guess you think your relationship with Whiskers is mostly sex-based. So, if he doesn't get or stay hard enough to fuck on any random date, the date is somehow a failure. But on the other hand, you arranged this big non-sexual date with him and Ponytail. You were anxious about it. Maybe he was too.

Now that it's over, he went back to his usual libido, with his nice hardon.

One more thing to keep in mind is, he's 43. And you've been dating a while. Maybe his NRE is wearing off. Maybe it's just his age.

And on a nicer note, maybe he's enjoying more about you than just the sex these days. Maybe you could be open to being OK with more non-sexual dates. Make back up plans for other activities. Or just be more open to having sex without an emphasis on his hardons.

I am sure many of us women wonder, when a man doesn't get or stay hard, "Is it me? Is he tiring of me? Or has he decided he's no longer attracted to me? (Adding litany of, I'm too fat, too thin, boobs too small, I'm not pretty enough, my hair is wrong, my skin isn't nice enough, I farted once, I'm too old, etc., etc., ad nauseum.)

But hardons are really not a reliable thing. Granted, they are more reliable in younger men. Their testosterone is so high, they get hard more easily. They stay hard, they cum big, they get hard again and cum again. It's nice.

But we are only young for a short time. Sex goes on past age 40, for many many more years, and we just have to learn to be more creative.
 
Sexual response is a tricky beast. Women, men and people of all genders struggle with libido from time to time.

I guess you think your relationship with Whiskers is mostly sex-based. So, if he doesn't get or stay hard enough to fuck on any random date, the date is somehow a failure. But on the other hand, you arranged this big non-sexual date with him and Ponytail. You were anxious about it. Maybe he was too.

Now that it's over, he went back to his usual libido, with his nice hardon.

I understand what you are saying, but the timing is off from what actually happened — the erection issues were from our last date (2.5 weeks ago) when the double date was still far into the future and the return of the usual libido was actually the day of the double date — just a couple hours beforehand when the anxiety would have been at its peak.

One more thing to keep in mind is, he's 43. And you've been dating a while. Maybe his NRE is wearing off. Maybe it's just his age.

And on a nicer note, maybe he's enjoying more about you than just the sex these days. Maybe you could be open to being OK with more non-sexual dates. Make back up plans for other activities. Or just be more open to having sex without an emphasis on his hardons.
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I was actually thinking about this today and came up with a strange alternative hypothesis...

I think part of my anxiety is that *for me* our relationship is a really important part of MY sex life. I think my anxiety is that if I lose this relationship, I will miss out on what has been really the best sex of my life. So I have been getting really anxious that he might not want to continue to have sex with me — and I am projecting that into the belief that “all he cares about is sex” when I don’t think that is actually true.

I was thinking about it this morning. Last night, I sent him some text messages saying how much I loved having sex with him the other day, how I was thinking about it and it was turning me on. He said something along the lines of, “I’m so glad you had fun!” Instead of simply accepting that comment for what it was, I immediately began thinking, “Why doesn’t he say anything about enjoying having sex with *me*? Does he not like it?” So then I said that it makes me feel very vulnerable to tell him things like that and I asked if he liked hearing them.” He said “Absolutely!”

When I type it all out here, it seems like everything that he said was positive — and yet at the time all I could think about at the time was, “Why doesn’t he say any of it back? Does he only fuck me because I am a loser who begs for it?”

So that got me thinking about why I am worried about that — what possible motivation could he have to fuck me if he thought I were a loser? Why would he text me and plan dates with me and hold my hand and tell me how much he likes my outfits and...and...and all the rest....if he didn’t enjoy those things?

And what it really comes down to, in my mind, is not so much that I am afraid that he only wants sex from me, but that someday that might not be something he wants to do with me. I feel inadequate not because I believe he gets better sex from his other partners (I have no idea if he does or doesn’t) but because I believe he gives me better sex than I could possibly ever give him. I know it’s not supposed to be a competition, but I get super anxious because I just don’t think it is possible for me to ever measure up to him. I feel like if I don’t perform, he won’t want to keep doing it.
 
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I understand what you are saying, but the timing is off from what actually happened — the erection issues were from our last date (2.5 weeks ago)... and the return of the usual libido was actually the day of the double date...

Oh, OK, scratch that idea. lol

I was actually thinking about this today, and came up with a strange alternative hypothesis...

I think part of my anxiety is that *for me* our relationship is a really important part of MY sex life. I think my anxiety is that if I lose this relationship, I will miss out on what has been really the best sex of my life.

Ugh. I can relate to that. But, I couldn't categorize one man I have had sex with as being "the best." I guess I've sampled too many; I'm old. I have had a few that were fantastic.

I even have to admit my ex h, with all his failings, was awesome in bed. And yet, I left him after 30 years.

Since we split, I have had about 3 stellar lovers. One of them, I only got to have sex with THREE times!! But omg... He always left me completely satisfied beyond my wildest dreams. He was so cute, an artist, intelligent, moody, endowed, romantic, playful, creative, a Dom to beat all the Doms I've ever had. So good at spanking and power exchange, not to mention actual sex, I was putty in his hands. I honestly would just lie on the couch after he'd leave, catatonic and completely on another planet, just glowing and sparkling. Almost in tears. I was so sorry he couldn't fit me into his life properly. I still think about him when I pleasure myself, and it's been 4 years.

There was one other great Dom, who was poly and had kids and ended up too busy to keep seeing me, who was amazing, and one other crazy person who was great at sex, and then my dear eager, attentive, enthusiastic, funny, relaxing Boytoy, who grew up and got married and went mono. So, five guys. How I would love to have ongoing sex happening with any of these people again.

And there was a handful that weren't quite as stellar but still pretty darn great. It does suck to lose relationships with amazing sex. Great sex enhances my life (and apparently yours) SO much. Nothing beats those dreamy relaxing endorphins after a couple dozen orgasms.

So I have been getting really anxious that he might not want to continue to have sex with me — and I am projecting that into the belief that “all he cares about is sex,” when I don’t think that is actually true.

I was thinking about it this morning. Last night, I sent him some text messages saying how much I loved having sex with him the other day, how I was thinking about it and it was turning me on. He said something along the lines of, “I’m so glad you had fun!” Instead of simply accepting that comment for what it was, I immediately began thinking, “Why doesn’t he say anything about enjoying having sex with *me*? Does he not like it?” So then I said that it makes me feel very vulnerable to tell him things like that and I asked if he liked hearing them.” He said “Absolutely!”

When I type it all out here, it seems like everything that he said was positive — and yet at the time all I could think about at the time was, “Why doesn’t he say any of it back? Does he only fuck me because I am a loser who begs for it?”

I can see how, when you say, I really loved the sex, you kinda want an affirmation that he loved it too. Not just, that he's glad YOU enjoyed it. It's kind of akin to telling someone you love them for the first time, and instead of saying they love you back, they say, that's nice.

So that got me thinking about why I am worried about that — what possible motivation could he have to fuck me, if he thought I were a loser? Why would he text me and plan dates with me and hold my hand and tell me how much he likes my outfits and...and...and all the rest....if he didn’t enjoy those things?

And what it really comes down to, in my mind, is not so much that I am afraid that he only wants sex from me, but that someday that might not be something he wants to do with me. I feel inadequate not because I believe he gets better sex from his other partners (I have no idea if he does or doesn’t) but because I believe he gives me better sex than I could possibly ever give him. I know it’s not supposed to be a competition, but I get super anxious because I just don’t think it is possible for me to ever measure up to him. I feel like if I don’t perform, he won’t want to keep doing it.

So you think he is objectively better in bed than you are, and in your fear, you call yourself a "loser." I can see fearing someone is more sexually skilled, but watch out for then categorically calling yourself a loser in general.


I remember when I was a lactation and parenting counselor, and mothers would make one mistake in parenting, and then say, "I am a bad mom." No, you are a good mom; you just made ONE mistake! And if you know you made a mistake, and try not to make it again, well, that just goes to show was a good mom you are!

Maybe you are confident of your Domme skills, but not so confident of your vanilla sex skills? Why do you catastrophize and used words like "loser" and "could never measure up," or think that you need to "perform"?

It's funny you feel pressure to "perform." In that thread I mentioned, we were talking about how it's a guy thing feel like they need to "perform." However you define "perform."

Maybe instead of just hamster wheeling in your head on the blog, go read that thread and others about sex and kink "performance." And how it doesn't need to be a "performance."

Where do you feel you lack sexual skills? Do you want to improve? How could you improve?
 
So you think he is objectively better in bed than you are, and in your fear, you call yourself a "loser." I can see fearing someone is more sexually skilled, but watch out for then categorically calling yourself a loser in general.

I remember when I was a lactation and parenting counselor, and mothers would make one mistake in parenting, and then say, "I am a bad mom." No, you are a good mom; you just made ONE mistake! And if you know you made a mistake, and try not to make it again, well, that just goes to show was a good mom you are!

This is an interesting comparison. I feel like part of my anxiety is that I have no idea what I could be doing better. I don't know when I make mistakes. And if I do, I live in constant fear of making the same mistake twice. Part of the thing with sex is that it is so....unplanned. Not that I don't expect that sex will happen, but that it happens and it is so exciting and overwhelming and I can't second-guess myself in the moment.....everything is a blur and then afterwards I'm like, "Wait . . . What did I do? Did I lie there and be boring? Did I spit on his face when I came? Did I accidentally do that thing that Ponytail likes, but Whiskers doesn't?"

Maybe you are confident of your Domme skills, but not so confident of your vanilla sex skills? Why do you catastrophize and used words like "loser" and "could never measure up," or think that you need to "perform"?

It's not actually that I feel very confident in my domme skills either -- it's just that I know that Ponytail loves me so much that anything I do is sexy. I actually did spit on his face the other day when I came, and when I apologetically said, "Oh my gosh! Did I just spit on your face?" he grinned and said, "Yeah, but it was HOT!" :p

It's funny you feel pressure to "perform." In that thread I mentioned, we were talking about how it's a guy thing feel like they need to "perform." However you define "perform."

Maybe instead of just hamster wheeling in your head on the blog, go read that thread and others about sex and kink "performance." And how it doesn't need to be a "performance."

Yeah, I definitely feel the need to perform well. And it's actually *because* of stuff I have read (including that thread that you linked to) saying that women can be bad in bed too in an effort to remind men that they don't have to perform like a trained seal. When I was younger I thought that all I needed to do in order to please a man was to be willing to have sex -- I didn't worry about anything (including whether or not I enjoyed it). Over the years I have learned that it isn't enough to be willing to have sex: you have to initiate it, you have to share 50% of the thrusting, you have to suggest various non-PIV activities, you have to know how to balance teasing with satisfying, you have to be responsible for your own orgasm and you have to make sure that they cum too, you have to be willing and capable of trying a lot of various positions -- and yet I have never learned how to be good at it, so I feel shitty about my performance.

Where do you feel you lack sexual skills? Do you want to improve? How could you improve?

Well, since you asked.....

General areas where I feel like I lack sexual skills:

1. Oral and manual sex. There is nothing more stressful for me than giving a guy a blowjob to completion. I enjoy sucking on a cock for a minute or two.....and I like lightly touching and teasing a cock.....but actually trying to get a guy to cum in these ways? I can never move as fast as they need me to in order to make them cum and I absolutely hate it when they are the ones doing the movement -- if it's in my hand, my hand goes numb. If it's in my mouth, I gag. There is SO much pressure to perform when it comes to getting enough of the "in and out" pace to get a guy to orgasm. With women (or at least with me), it's all about the pressure and the depth and not about the pace -- but with guys it's like they need me to have a robotic arm in order to do it properly.
--> How can I improve? I don't really know. I have read up on how to give good blow jobs and hand jobs, but no matter how much I read up on it, in the moment they are always asking me to do something that I physically can't seem to accomplish. I suppose I could practice deep-throating dildos..... and I could go to the gym and workout my arms?


2. Thrusting. Again, I don't seem to have the stamina or the coordination to thrust in the way that they want. Even when I fuck guys with a strap on, I can never go as fast as they would prefer -- but it is the same with vaginal penetration too. If I'm on top and in charge, I am more likely to have some success, but even then, sometimes they physically pick me up and move me up and down at a pace that seems insanely fast to me. If I'm on the bottom, it's even harder -- I know it's not okay to just lie there, so I try to thrust back, but if they're on top then they are thrusting too and it's never at the pace that I want or can do, so we get out sync and then things just slip out.
--> How can I improve? I don't know. How do you learn to match someone else's rhythm when it doesn't feel natural to you? Should I bring a metronome to bed?


3. Speaking of slipping out, this is another one of my failings. If I feel like he's going to slip out of me, I totally panic. Because the feeling of him slipping all the way out and then going back in at the wrong angle is horrifying. It shouldn't be that big of a deal -- it only hurts for a second -- but for some reason it really makes me panic. So I know that lots of guys want to move more and that they find it exciting to pull all the way out and then dive back in, but I can't let anyone do that to me -- it freaks me out too much.
--> How can I improve? I'm not sure -- I know I need to relax and just deal with him slipping out now and then. Maybe I need to find some recreational drugs that would allow me to just chill out about it.....


4. Just even....getting it in. It depends on the penis size and shape, but it is generally very difficult to get it inside me. If I'm on the bottom, there are usually a few moments where they try to push it in too high or too low, so I usually try to be on top. But when I am on top I am equally mystified by how to get it in. I should be able to just hop on a cock, right? But instead it's this whole acrobatic thing where I am unable to find the right hole and angle to put it in. I think I have everything aligned and then when I try to push it in, I end up just bending their penis! Not because it is soft either -- like, my vagina just won't initially relax enough to let it in. Ugh. It's so awful to see the confusion on their faces when I can't seem to figure it out. It's like 1 minute before we get it figured out, but I feel like shit for that minute.
--> How can I improve? No fucking clue! I suppose if I masturbated more so that my vagina was more used to the intrusion? Or if they spent more time fingering me so that I was more opened up right before we started having sex?

5. Kissing. I know that I suck at kissing because I am pretty much the only person on the planet who doesn't enjoy using tongue when kissing. My passionate kisses are all about the interplay between firmness and softness of the lips. My mouth is open, but my tongue stays within my mouth. Nobody else seems to like this, though. I try really hard to use my tongue now and then, but I just hate it. Ponytail and Glasses both understand my aversion to tongue kissing and so they reign in their tongues and follow my lead. Whiskers puts his tongue in my mouth ALL THE TIME, though, which is why I know that kissing me must be super unsatisfying for him. I try to give him opportunities to use his tongue elsewhere (;)) or just spend as little time kissing as possible and get straight to the sex.
--> How can I improve? Yeah, I know. I probably need to be more direct about my feelings on tongue kissing. Most of the time, guys notice and ask me about it ("Hey -- do you like....have a tongue?") and I explain. But this is the perfect example of one of those things where I feel like I have to perform -- because sticking my tongue in someone's mouth literally brings me no joy. But I know that not doing it makes me a bad kisser (at least for someone like Whiskers, who really seems to love tongue). So my choices are either to tell him I don't like it and expect him to stop (which then makes me worry that he would feel awkward because I'd essentially be telling him to go against his kissing intuition), tell him directly that I don't like it and keep kissing the way I like to and allow him to kiss me the way he likes to and just hope we both get enough of what we want to make it work, or to say nothing and hope that he doesn't notice.

Ugh. Well, writing this out certainly helped me identify some of my specific areas of anxiety. But I'm realizing that I am incompetent in literally every area of sexual performance -- everything from kissing and foreplay to thrusting to the finish line. :(
 
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I just wanted to thank you for sharing. I will reply in the morning.
 
I just wanted to thank you for sharing. I will reply in the morning.

Thank you Magdlyn.


I gotta add, after taking some time away from this post and re-reading it later, it sounds perhaps like I hate sex. And that isn’t the case. I just feel massively incompetent at it.
 
It strikes me that a lot of what you mentioned in terms of feeling incompetent are preferences rather than incompetencies.

Oral sex - you don't want to have to move very fast with your mouth. Manual sex - you don't enjoy moving fast or having them move in your hand.

Slipping out - you don't like someone pulling out all the way because you're nervous about the angle coming back in.

Kissing - you don't like tongue kissing.

With "thrusting", it sounds like you feel you don't have stamina or coordination rather than a particular preference per se. (Though it's close to a preference - apart from masochistic play, people generally enjoy what feels comfortable to them).

Getting it in - it doesn't sound like a skill so much as pace and readiness. Different play / foreplay and less focus on penetrative sex could help...

I would go for communicating preferences where possible, e.g. letting Whiskers know about your kissing preference rather than hoping he'll figure it out. Since he hasn't done so yet.

It's good to hear that you are generally caught up in the moment during sex and tend to fret about it afterwards rather than at the time. I'm like that too - not about sex but about other things. I call it post-performance anxiety. It's worse when I feel like I've let my inhibitions down so I imagine it would be really bad around sex if I felt anxiety about that.

It's normal to have preferences as well as physical limitations. Everyone has to work around those with other partners. Any of those things you mentioned could be flipped around to be your partner's limitations / preferences being the "problem". I'd say it's just differences, not a problem. And the question is whether you can find compatible ways to play with each other. There's an element of competency there: knowing yourself, being able to communicate your preferences, being creative to work around your limitations.

Oh and - don't use a metronome ;) But you know that.
 
There is nothing more stressful for me than giving a guy a blowjob to completion. I enjoy sucking on a cock for a minute or two.....and I like lightly touching and teasing a cock.....but actually trying to get a guy to cum in these ways? I can never move as fast as they need me to in order to make them cum
Isn't that a common "issue"? It's certainly a struggle for me too.
(I also believe part of it is the guys being too used to their own hand, and thus going insensitive to other stimuli... this is actually a thing with men who haven't had a partner for awhile, but maybe even for partnered one's.)
2. Thrusting. Again, I don't seem to have the stamina or the coordination to thrust in the way that they want. Even when I fuck guys with a strap on, I can never go as fast as they would prefer -- but it is the same with vaginal penetration too. If I'm on top and in charge, I am more likely to have some success, but even then, sometimes they physically pick me up and move me up and down at a pace that seems insanely fast to me.
WTF if they wanna go that fast just let them do it. It's nice to have some slow periods for a change where you can be setting the pace. Teach your guys to also just let it in with minimal movement and enjoy the sensation.
3. Speaking of slipping out, this is another one of my failings. If I feel like he's going to slip out of me, I totally panic. Because the feeling of him slipping all the way out and then going back in at the wrong angle is horrifying. It shouldn't be that big of a deal -- it only hurts for a second -- but for some reason it really makes me panic.
If it hurts you, isn't HE the one failing?
You can practice this one when you're very open, very very slowly and deliberately go in and out, so that both him and you get a feel for the right angle, and what is and isn't possible for your body. If it hurts, you're not ready, or he's bumping where he isn't supposed to. (Be prepared traumatic memories of past pain MIGHT come up if you observe the process.)
4. Just even....getting it in.
As above.
Also, most times, I'm literary only wet enough and open for penetration after I've had a clitoridal orgasm, or after a nice rope scene. Stimulation & gentle fingering should help.
There's a reason why the stereotype of men having to learn how to please women and not necessarily the other way around came about. Because with some (most?) women, it just is more work. Sure, you can give back, as a domme or by giving him a massage or by being caring in the relationship or whatever, but it doesn't take away what they have to do to give you a good foreplay.
5. Kissing. I know that I suck at kissing because I am pretty much the only person on the planet who doesn't enjoy using tongue when kissing.
Yeah, nope, sorry to take away your exceptionality. A tong means the other person's saliva in my mouth, gross. (Well I do a bit of tongue but not too deep - just staying at the level of the lips - and only very occasionally I can do deep tongue with my partner, but generally kissing is something extremely vulnerable and I don't like other people's tongues in my mouth.)

All of these are workings of my body that I have accepted.
I do also sometimes feel inadequate, because I prefer the passive/submissive role so much, and I know my partner would like me to cuddle him more actively and top him more. But I don't seem to be able to do that unless my own needs are met. So... there we go, it's what it is.

If you feel like it, experiment with being mindful and deliberate, enjoying slowness and nuance with your partners. You don't have to force yourself to slow down all the passion, just try a minute at a time or so. I'm sure you know from Ds, so it's just a matter of applying the same principles when fucking.
 
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I agree with Fuchka that most of this really is about preferences. There are things you can do to help you feel more confident. I think communication always helps. Also regular aerobic exercise and strength training can help with speed and stamina. And practice definitely helps! ;) If you want to increase your oral skills, give more blow jobs for longer periods of time. Don't worry if you gag, it happens to all of us sometimes.

I think it's great you want to improve.... nothing wrong with that. But beating yourself up over things your partners haven't complained about is just torturing yourself.
 
I'm glad it helped to write this out, and I'm glad others chimed in!

I feel like part of my anxiety is that I have no idea what I could be doing better. I don't know when I make mistakes. And if I do, I live in constant fear of making the same mistake twice.

This is incorrect, because, despite saying you don't know what to do, you did make some suggestions of how to change things specifically! You're more creative than you think.

[In sex] everything is a blur, and then afterwards I'm like, "Wait... what did I do? Did I lie there and be boring? Did I spit on his face when I came? Did I accidentally do that thing that Ponytail likes, but Whiskers doesn't?"

I actually did spit on ]Ponytail's] face the other day when I came, and when I apologetically said, "Oh my gosh! Did I just spit on your face?" he grinned and said, "Yeah, but it was HOT!" :p

So, it wasn't a complete blur. You did suspect you did that.

Yeah, I definitely feel the need to perform well. And it's actually *because* of stuff I have read (including that thread that you linked to) saying that women can be bad in bed too, in an effort to remind men that they don't have to perform like a trained seal. When I was younger I thought that all I needed to do in order to please a man was to be willing to have sex -- I didn't worry about anything (including whether or not I enjoyed it).

So, you're coming from a place where all you used to do was lie back and let a guy "have his way," whether you were enjoying yourself or not. It's scary how many women come from this place.

Over the years I have learned that it isn't enough to be willing to have sex: you have to initiate it, you have to share 50% of the thrusting...

You don't ''have" to do either of these. If you want sex, you CAN initiate it. You should initiate sex if you want it, and your partner is willing. Why not? That's just normal and fun, to act on your desire. Most men will welcome that.

But the thrusting thing? No, I don't believe anyone needs to match a guy thrust for thrust.

you have to suggest various non-PIV activities, you have to know how to balance teasing with satisfying, you have to be responsible for your own orgasm and you have to make sure that they cum too

NO, you don't have to make sure a guy cums. Some men may not want to cum, or be incapable of cumming in a session. But if he wants to and is capable of it, yeah, let him fuck you until he cums. If you're responsible for your own orgasm, he's responsible for his. If you get tired and he hasn't cum yet, and wants to, he can jerk off while you hold him.

...you have to be willing and capable of trying a lot of various positions -- and yet I have never learned how to be good at it, so I feel shitty about my performance.

We can always learn how to be better, within our own physical limitations and preferences, of course. But there's no need to do something you hate, just to please someone else, in sex or in anything.


1. Oral and manual sex. There is nothing more stressful for me than giving a guy a blowjob to completion. I enjoy sucking on a cock for a minute or two.....and I like lightly touching and teasing a cock.....but actually trying to get a guy to cum in these ways? I can never move as fast as they need me to in order to make them cum, and I absolutely hate it when they are the ones doing the movement -- if it's in my hand, my hand goes numb. If it's in my mouth, I gag.

And these are your preferences and physical limitations. We are all allowed to have them.

There is SO much pressure to perform when it comes to getting enough of the "in and out" pace to get a guy to orgasm.

Pressure from whom? Yourself, or the men?

With women (or at least with me), it's all about the pressure and the depth and not about the pace -- but with guys it's like they need me to have a robotic arm in order to do it properly.

Yes, men do have bigger stronger muscles than we women do, generally. Each guy generally has a bigger strong right hand and arm (if he's right handed) from masturbating! One of my male friends told me he isn't getting enough sex from his wife lately and his hand has grown noticeably bigger from jerking off an hour every night. (He likes to edge.)

How can I improve? I don't really know... I suppose I could practice deep-throating dildos..... and I could go to the gym and workout my arms.

There you go. You do have ideas of how to improve. You panic and hate on yourself and act dumber than you are. I'd add you could practice on your subs, going slow, on taking a cock in deeper, but slowly. You can train your gag reflex to be lesser over time.

The speed of jacking off or thrusting in a bj, and holding one's mouth wide open, can be very tiring. I generally switch between hand and mouth. The last good bj I did, I found that the guy (who I hadnt been with recently), had a little sensitive spot I could lick gently, just at the base of his cock near his scrotum. It drove him wild, and made him cum hard. And it was really easy on me! Another guy would go mad if I gently rubbed his perineum or tickled the outside of his asshole as I sucked. Just those little extra bits of stimulation, did the trick! We don't need to mimic the hand job a man gives himself to get him off.

2. Thrusting. Again, I don't seem to have the stamina or the coordination to thrust in the way that they want... I can never go as fast as they would prefer... I know it's not okay to just lie there...

I do not know where you're getting this from. If you're on top, on bottom, or doing it doggie style, it's perfectly OK to just be fairly still and let the stronger muscular man do a lot of the work. I've had tons of sex with dozens of men and I've never felt the need to match them exactly thrust for thrust!

On top, you can thrust as fast or slow, as deep or shallow, as you want, of course. For me, I don't like being on top much since it's too much work to bounce, and I'm so focused on the athleticism of it, I can't cum easily or at all.

--> How can I improve? I don't know. How do you learn to match someone else's rhythm when it doesn't feel natural to you? Should I bring a metronome to bed?

haha. I suggest just stop thinking and worrying about this whole topic.

3. Speaking of slipping out, this is another one of my failings. If I feel like he's going to slip out of me, I totally panic. Because the feeling of him slipping all the way out and then going back in at the wrong angle is horrifying. It shouldn't be that big of a deal -- it only hurts for a second -- but for some reason it really makes me panic. So I know that lots of guys want to move more and that they find it exciting to pull all the way out and then dive back in, but I can't let anyone do that to me -- it freaks me out too much.
--> How can I improve? I'm not sure -- I know I need to relax and just deal with him slipping out now and then. Maybe I need to find some recreational drugs that would allow me to just chill out about it...

This is interesting, combined with the below. As far as drugs, I'm not suggesting you have to start drinking booze and smoking weed, but it can enhance sex since a drink may relax inhibitions, and weed increases your sensuality. I've certainly had sex be enhanced by weed. I'm not much of a drinker. It might make sex happen more easily, but it can make it sloppy and stupid if you drink too much.

4. Just even....getting it in. It depends on the penis size and shape, but it is generally very difficult to get it inside me. If I'm on the bottom, there are usually a few moments where they try to push it in too high or too low, so I usually try to be on top. But when I am on top I am equally mystified by how to get it in. I should be able to just hop on a cock, right? But instead it's this whole acrobatic thing where I am unable to find the right hole and angle to put it in. I think I have everything aligned and then when I try to push it in, I end up just bending their penis! Not because it is soft either -- like, my vagina just won't initially relax enough to let it in. Ugh. It's so awful to see the confusion on their faces when I can't seem to figure it out. It's like 1 minute before we get it figured out, but I feel like shit for that minute.
--> How can I improve? No fucking clue!

But you do have a clue!

I suppose if I masturbated more so that my vagina was more used to the intrusion? Or if they spent more time fingering me so that I was more opened up right before we started having sex?

And there you go. Definitely make sure they fingerbang you and/or eat you out, so you're not too tight. Also, if you think your vag is unnaturally tight, hypertonic, you may have vaginismus, an unusual contraction of the vaginal muscles. I think you should insist on plenty of foreplay to make sure you're relaxed enough down there.

It's telling that you use the word "intrusion" instead of penetration. Do you have any trauma around a penis intruding on you against your will? You say you used to have sex because guys wanted it, and not for your own pleasure. Is that part of it? You're rejecting the penis, unconsciously?
 
5. Kissing. I know that I suck at kissing because I am pretty much the only person on the planet who doesn't enjoy using tongue when kissing. My passionate kisses are all about the interplay between firmness and softness of the lips. My mouth is open, but my tongue stays within my mouth. Nobody else seems to like this, though. I try really hard to use my tongue now and then, but I just hate it. Ponytail and Glasses both understand my aversion to tongue kissing and so they reign in their tongues and follow my lead. Whiskers puts his tongue in my mouth ALL THE TIME, though, which is why I know that kissing me must be super unsatisfying for him. I try to give him opportunities to use his tongue elsewhere () or just spend as little time kissing as possible and get straight to the sex.

How can I improve? Yeah, I know. I probably need to be more direct about my feelings on tongue kissing. Most of the time, guys notice and ask me about it ("Hey -- do you like....have a tongue?") and I explain. But this is the perfect example of one of those things where I feel like I have to perform -- because sticking my tongue in someone's mouth literally brings me no joy. But I know that not doing it makes me a bad kisser (at least for someone like Whiskers, who really seems to love tongue). So my choices are either to tell him I don't like it and expect him to stop (which then makes me worry that he would feel awkward because I'd essentially be telling him to go against his kissing intuition), tell him directly that I don't like it and keep kissing the way I like to and allow him to kiss me the way he likes to and just hope we both get enough of what we want to make it work, or to say nothing and hope that he doesn't notice.

You think you are the only person on the planet who doesn't enjoy tongue kissing. There are 7 billion people on the planet and somehow you're the ONLY ONE who doesn't like tongue kissing.

This is pure anxiety and self castigation.

I've been with quite a few people, and known of more, who have oral aversions of one kind or another. And many many men can take or leave kissing. I've had platonic gfs complain to me that their bf or husband never kisses them. One woman said he'd only kiss her deeply when he was seconds away from cumming.

One of my last bfs, who I dated for 9 months, avoided tongue kissing me. One time, when he'd been on a long trip to Mexico, on his arrival back to me, he gave me one big nice long tongue kiss. I was taken aback. But it was just a fluke. All the other times, he'd just barely stick out the tip of his tongue, if at all. And he never ever ate me out.

I've had more than one lover who love to tongue kiss, but are averse to giving head, or maybe tongue tied and just couldn't get their tongue out very far. One guy in particular was very frustrating. He was a sub, and liked to be smothered, have me sit on his face. But once I hoisted myself up there, he'd do.... basically nothing. Just lie there. After a couple months, I had to ask him if he was tongue tied. It was so odd. But I guess we kissed (hard to remember, it was a while ago). He just seemed to like being smothered for his own pleasure, but didn't feel the need to actually give me pleasure with his tongue while he had my pussy all over his face. I stopped doing it because it just did nothing for me. I was supposed to be the Domme, but that was all about his own pleasure. He refused or couldn't make it mutually pleasurable. I didn't get off just the power play of facesitting, on Topping him. I wanted some action down there.

Anyway, I have been with several people who either don't like to tongue kiss, or do like to tongue kiss, but don't like to tongue a pussy. And I do love to tongue kiss, and I do like to be given oral sex, but I don't force anyone to do either. I make up for it by enjoying the other things I like, that they like too.

I've also known women who hate to give bjs because they don't like the feeling of a cock in their mouths, or they have a very strong gag reflex, or they hate the taste and texture of cum and don't want to risk getting a mouthful.

We are all different, and that's OK.

I'd say you should consider telling Whiskers outright that you don't enjoy tongue kissing. If you don't mind his tongue in your mouth, as long as you can keep yours in your mouth, it sounds like a compromise that has been working so far. If you're anxious about it (feeling like you're the only person on the planet who doesn't like tongue kissing), bring it up and ask for reassurance from him.

You can of course, also communicate about the bj issue and the thrusting misconceptions, if you want. Better communication leads to better sex. Maybe he'll suggest things you've barely considered or haven't considered, that might work for him, or for you, to improve things in general.

Or maybe he'll look at you in complete surprise and say, "What are you talking about? You're awesome. Don't change a thing."
 
Thank you, Fuchka, PinkPig, Tinwen and Magdlyn. I think you are correct that a lot of this does come down to preferences and physical limitations, rather than skills. I guess it is hard not to conflate them in my head, since they all lead to whether the sex is "good" or "bad" for the other person.

In reading your responses, I realized how much of this has to do with flat-out inexperience. I think I said something along the lines of "When I was younger my perception was that I just had to lie there and it didn't matter if I enjoyed it or not," and in some of your responses you drew attention to the wording here -- specifically my lack of enjoyment. I think I should clarify some things about what I said, because it also gives me more insight into how my sexual journey has unfolded.

So first of all, I have only ever had PIV sex with Glasses, Ponytail and Whiskers. So my sample size is tiny and very.....current. It also means that when I talk about my perceptions of sex "when I was younger", I'm talking about perceptions that came from two places: (1) books/magazines/internet/movies/"society" and (2) my early experiences with Glasses.

When Glasses and I first got together, it took us 9 months of trying before we were able to actually have PIV sex. We tried a lot, but it just didn't seem to work for us. Even after we successfully started having PIV sex (to my huge relief, as I thought maybe it would never happen and I'd have to do in vitro fertilization to ever have a baby!), it took a lot of effort for me to stay relaxed enough for it to not be uncomfortable/painful. As a result, most of our sex life was not PIV -- which was great in a lot of ways, but it meant that I strongly associated my pleasure with non-PIV activities, and his pleasure with PIV (because, again, I always have had difficulty getting him off with mouth or hands). I think that's a big part of what I mean when I say that my perception was that the most important thing I could do during PIV was to be receptive to it. It's not so much that my pleasure took a back-burner to his pleasure (I'd say that our orgasm ratio is still largely in my favor), but that my pleasure didn't come from PIV, so I felt like it wasn't important for me to try to feel pleasure from that.

I gotta go pick up my kids from school....I will write more later. Thank you for the outlet to express these thoughts.
 
So first of all, I have only ever had PIV sex with Glasses, Ponytail and Whiskers.
My PIV sample is not any bigger, so yeah, don't take me too seriously :) I'm glad you're figuring things out.
 
Okay, so picking up where I left off . . .

My perception of sex was that PIV was painful at worst, fun at best, and never really mind-blowing. Again, it wasn't like I wasn't getting any sexual pleasure . . . like I said, most of our sexual activity came from Glasses pleasuring me and PIV made up a relatively small amount of our sexual activity. Since I had heard (plenty) about how women are more likely to enjoy other sexual activities anyway, I figured it really wasn't that big of a deal if I wasn't all that into it and if I mostly focused on it being a pleasurable act for Glasses. Over the years, it became less frequently painful and more frequently pleasurable -- particularly after I had given birth (and recovered), but it still wasn't like that was the way I was going to orgasm or anything. It was still an activity that was focused on my husband.

So that's what I mean when I say that my early assumptions were that my role in PIV sex was just to be available and receptive to it. It also means that I didn't do much when it came to pleasuring Glasses -- if we were having sex that was focused on me, then we were focused on pleasuring me....and if we were having sex that was focused on Glasses then I was focused on relaxing my muscles so that PIV could happen. (Wow, "could happen" .....yeah that sounds about as passive as you can get.....)

Okay, so flash forward to 8 years into our marriage when we decide to open up to polyamory. I am excited and nervous about the prospect of having sex with someone new (having had very little experience with anyone else besides Glasses at this point). So I start reading up on dating and sex and what makes for good sex, etc. It is here that I really learn all the things I am "supposed" to be doing (the thrusting and the blowjobs and the kissing with tongue). Forum after forum of people talking about how bad it is when the woman "starfishes" (exactly what I had been doing in order to make sex comfortable for me) and how creepy it would be if someone kissed them with an open mouth and didn't put their tongue in. So I get pretty anxious, but I'm still excited.

Everything is great with Ponytail. He asks about me not using tongue when kissing, but seems to get it that it just isn't my thing. When I saw his penis for the first time I was TERRIFIED, though. It is easily 4 times bigger than Glasses's and so I thought it would just never fit, or if it fit, it would be painful.

But somehow we made it work. And it was amazing. I had only had a handful of orgasms from PIV during the monogamous years of my marriage and so I was a little shocked at how regularly I was able to cum from PIV with Ponytail. He also quickly learned how to give me head EXACTLY the way that I like it. (I am not a huge fan of cunnilingus -- in part because of the anxiety about reciprocation and in part because I think Glasses is tongue-tied.) It was awesome. And, of course, best of all is that Ponytail pretty much will let me do whatever I want to him. He is very fun to play with in part because he is so willing to let me experiment with him.

More later....
 
Okay, so now we are at the point in the story where my fears about not being "good enough" really settled in. Because I recognized in myself a lot of the traits that people seemed to be complaining about -- the passivity and the lack of enthusiasm or tongue. In addition, the fact that I enjoy PIV more with Ponytail (and, later, Whiskers) than I had with Glasses, has made me realize how PIV can feel very different depending on the partner. This, then, has made me feel extremely anxious about whether I am "good" at sex or not.

Because, deep down, I am losing interest in sex with Glasses. I have been trying to fight it, but ultimately it is the truth. Glasses can still finger me better than Ponytail or Whiskers (years of practice has made him a master at it), but when it comes to PIV I am getting less and less out of my PIV experiences with him. And the more that I acknowledge that, the more fearful I become that that's what will eventually happen with my other partners. Eventually, Whiskers will wake up one day and think, "It's just not fun to have sex with MsEmotional anymore. I enjoy pleasing her, but what's in it for me? I thought she would learn what I like, but she's just not getting it."

So that's it -- in a nutshell, I think a lot of my fears about being bad at sex stem from the fact that I am coming off of 10 years of believing that I responded to sex in one way .....and then realizing that my experience of sex is completely different when I am with someone else. I used to think that if I did or did not enjoy sex, it was about me -- my (in)ability to relax, my mindset, my imagination, my abiity to slow down or speed up, etc. And now I am aware of the fact that my enjoyment of sex seems to be completely dependent on the particularities (body? skill? interests?) of the other person. The realization that my own enjoyment of sex is as much about the other person as it is about me is terrifying -- because before I thought it was up to me to enjoy sex (or not) and it was up to my partner to enjoy sex (or not). Now I realize that if my partner is rocking my world, it is because they are rocking my world. And if I don't rock their world in return, what reason would they have to continue to want to have sex with me two, three, ten years into the future?
 
Instead of focusing on what you "should" do (there are no shoulds in sex), have you considered having a frank conversation with your partners about what they enjoy in general, and what they enjoy with you? I think you might find that helpful.

The losing interest in sex with Glasses is its own issue, I think. You'll have to make a decision on how you want to handle that.
 
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