Advice: Partner Asked to Date My Best Friend, Relationship Thrown into Turmoil

Triadlove177

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I'm currently in a three-person relationship. I (34m) and my partner M (33f) have been married 8 years, together 15 years. We started dating a third, partner S (31f), about 2 years ago.

M and I have had a lot of extramarital sexual experiences during our 15 years together. This is our first time actually dating another person together. Partner S requested that we keep the relationship closed, that we be serious about having a commitment ceremony, and living alone together (we currently have a roommate who was my best friend, until these recent events), buying a forever home together. I think we have been actively working towards these requests and had been talking to my friend (we'll call him V) about moving out at the beginning of next year. One other piece of important background information: about a year ago, S and V had a huge falling-out, because he was using her for emotional support and wouldn't respect her boundaries when she wasn't emotionally available for him to vent to.

About two months ago, while I was on a month-long work trip, she decided to try and make up with him to make things easier for me. They became attached at the hip while I was gone and he confessed to her that he loved her. She said she realized she had feelings for him and stopped the conversation, saying she needed to talk to M and me.

S told each of us separately that she and V realized they had romantic feelings for each other and asked us how we would feel if they pursued that. She clarified some things through discussions. She still wants S, M, and me to be together. She wants the relationship to stay closed, except that she gets to date V. V might still move out, but she didn't seem confident about that anymore. She thinks it would be valuable for V to move with us to another state. She wants M and me to not directly talk to V about anything related to the relationship. Her words were that there would be a wall between V and us. We'd talk to her and she'd talk to V.

M and I told S we did not want this for our relationship. S has shut down emotionally and left to see family for a couple of weeks. S stating this made her realize that she actually has a lot of problems with our relationship. M and I have separately contacted V about talking this out, since we're friends. He told me that he has a lot to process and demanded I never stay up late with S, ever again. (S and I had a few conversations that went until 4am about her question.) V hasn't talked to me or M since. S also canceled all of our future plans, including our anniversary. She stated: why plan for it if we might not want to stay together?

Lastly, we did finally get her to agree to group therapy when she returns.

Has anyone had something like this happen to them? Any advice or insight into what S is dealing with and why she won't talk to us more than about how our days are going and an occasional meme or pet photo? It's been devastating, for M and me at least. Apparently S is extremely stressed over this. She hasn't told us anything about what she wants or what she needs.
 
she thinks it would be valuable for V to move with us to another state, and that M and myself would not directly talk to V about anything related to the relationship, her words were that there would be a wall between V and us and we talk to her and she talks to V.
Just one really quick 2 cents... parallel poly while living under one roof doesn't seem like a recipe for success.
 
I'm currently in a three-person relationship. I (34m) and my partner Mary (33f) have been married 8 years, together 15 years. We started dating a third, partner Sue (31f), about 2 years ago.
Instead of initials, it's easier for your readers to keep track of everything with actual nicknames.
Mary and I have had a lot of extramarital sexual experiences during our 15 years together. This is our first time actually dating another person together. Partner Sue requested that we keep the relationship closed, that we be serious about having a commitment ceremony, and living alone together (we currently have a roommate who was my best friend, until these recent events), buying a forever home together. I think we have been actively working towards these requests and had been talking to my friend (we'll call him Vic) about moving out at the beginning of next year. One other piece of important background information: about a year ago, Sue and Vic had a huge falling-out, because he was using her for emotional support and wouldn't respect her boundaries when she wasn't emotionally available for him to vent to.

About two months ago, while I was on a month-long work trip, Sue decided to try and make up with Vic to make things easier for me. They became attached at the hip while I was gone and he confessed to her that he loved her. She said she realized she had feelings for him and stopped the conversation, saying she needed to talk to Mary and me.

Sue told each of us separately that she and Vic realized they had romantic feelings for each other and asked us how we would feel if they pursued that. She clarified some things through discussions. She still wants Sue, Mary, and me to be together. She wants the relationship to stay closed, except that she gets to date Vic. He might still move out, but she didn't seem confident about that anymore. She thinks it would be valuable for Vic to move with us to another state. She wants Mary and me to not directly talk to Vic about anything related to the relationship. Her words were that there would be a wall between Vic and us. We'd talk to her and she'd talk to Vic.

Mary and I told Sue we did not want this for our relationship. Sue has shut down emotionally and left to see family for a couple of weeks. Sue stating this made her realize that she actually has a lot of problems with our relationship. Mary and I have separately contacted Vic about talking this out, since we're friends. He told me that he has a lot to process and demanded I never stay up late with Sue, ever again. (Sue and I had a few conversations that went until 4am about her question.) Vic hasn't talked to me or Mary since. Sue also canceled all of our future plans, including our anniversary. She stated: why plan for it if we might not want to stay together?

Lastly, we did finally get her to agree to group therapy when she returns.

Has anyone had something like this happen to them? Any advice or insight into what Sue is dealing with and why she won't talk to us more than about how our days are going and an occasional meme or pet photo? It's been devastating, for Mary and me, at least. Apparently Sue is extremely stressed over this. She hasn't told us anything about what she wants or what she needs.
Triads are hard to do. I wonder if Sue wasn't really happy being a shared gf. How experienced in poly is she? Maybe she prefers to have a mono relationship, with Vic, now, in particular.

Often relationships that seem good don't make it past the NRE stage. It can be unwise to move someone in before a good year or two of dating.

Some poly people also put dating one's good friends on the "no go" list for their partner(s). We call this the messy list. Don't date my sister, my mom, my best friend, my brother, my coworker, my boss, things like that.

It's a shame that Vic and Sue have shut down. It's likely they are both feeling guilty, jealous, confused, disloyal, you name it.

You might end up losing Sue as a partner and Vic as a friend over this. I am sorry it's gotten so hard.

I don't have much advice right now, just sympathy.
 
Instead of initials, it's easier for your readers to keep track of everything with actual nicknames.

Triads are hard to do. I wonder if Sue wasn't really happy being a shared gf. How experienced in poly is she? Maybe she prefers to have a mono relationship, with Vic, now, in particular.

Often relationships that seem good don't make it past the NRE stage. It can be unwise to move someone in before a good year or two of dating.

Some poly people also put dating one's good friends on the "no go" list for their partner(s). We call this the messy list. Don't date my sister, my mom, my best friend, my brother, my coworker, my boss, things like that.

It's a shame that Vic and Sue have shut down. It's likely they are both feeling guilty, jealous, confused, disloyal, you name it.

You might end up losing Sue as a partner and Vic as a friend over this. I am sorry it's gotten so hard.

I don't have much advice right now, just sympathy.
Thank you for all the feedback. I'll make sure to use nicknames next time. We have relationship therapy set up in a little over a week with a therapist who claims to be experienced and supportive of LGBTQ and Poly relationships, so maybe that will work things out.

I did tell Sue that part of the reason it was a no-go was her choice. I'm actually pretty upset at times about Vic, who I've let live with me for 6 years, helped through a break-up and his dad's death, who said he would never do a poly relationship, then went and confessed he had feelings for Sue and never talked to me or (I guess we'll call her) Mary. Also upset that Sue would ask me about the two of them dating without thinking about my friendship with Vic.

I don't think I can be friends with him or be ok with the two of them dating after the way he talked to me. Seems like he is very willing to go behind my back and take sides without talking to me about things.
 
Hello Triadlove177,

This whole situation sounds quite messy to me, I am inclined to suggest that you break up with Sue, and start over with (a) new partner/s, after you and Mary date (preferably separately) some more. Also I suggest you give Vic one month's notice, in which he will be legally required to move out. He's not your best friend anymore, he and Sue should live together elsewhere. I mean that is what I suggest, you don't have to do it. I just think there is a huge mess on the floor, and someone needs to clean it. If no one else will do that, it's kind of up to you.

Sorry this is happening,
Kevin T.
 
Hello Triadlove177,

This whole situation sounds quite messy to me, I am inclined to suggest that you break up with Sue, and start over with (a) new partner/s, after you and Mary date (preferably separately) some more. Also I suggest you give Vic one month's notice, in which he will be legally required to move out. He's not your best friend anymore, he and Sue should live together elsewhere. I mean that is what I suggest, you don't have to do it. I just think there is a huge mess on the floor, and someone needs to clean it. If no one else will do that, it's kind of up to you.

Sorry this is happening,
Kevin T.
I wouldn't say you're wrong on any point, but we did get therapy lined up for next week and scheduled 3 more sessions after that in advance. Sue is currently agreeing to go. So it may not work out, but hopefully therapy will at least get everyone to be honest with one another.

I appreciate the reply.
 
Yes, give the therapy a chance to work before deciding whether to break up ... a lot of that should depend on whether Sue cooperates. On the other hand, Vic continues to be a big problem.
 
I'm glad you set up counseling. I hope it helps you process.

I could be wrong in my impressions, but FWIW, I think it's kinda weird how Sue wanted all these big promises so early into the triad.
- She wants you and Mary to only date her, while she is free to date Vic.
- She wants everyone to live together, whereas before she wanted Vic to move out.
- She wants to keep a "wall" up, where she's the go-between. You and Mary cannot talk to Vic. You have to go "through" Sue. It's like she wants some kind of "Queen Bee" set-up, with herself at the center.
- And Vic doesn't want you staying up late with Sue.

I honestly think it might be best to let both Sue and Vic go. End your relationships with them. They each seem to be kind of "hovering" over the other one. It's sounding pretty weird. All of you living together in that weirdness doesn't sound healthy or great to me.

Galagirl
 
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