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Are you going to a cool party?
 
Are you going to a cool party?
The coolest thing I'm doing is entering the contest at the casino (not expecting to win but still fun to enter). Also taking the kids to the zoo trick or treat party where they set up stations throughout the zoo with mini games and stuff. We will be going to a party at the local micro brewery if we get a sitter.
 
Rooster,

I read through your posts, and there a lot of similarities between your situation and what I went through with DAG. Even similar views on sex. I can do one night stands, but DAG needs an emotional connection to someone before he can have sex. Also, I went through a long period of not having a sex drive, which really negatively impacted our relationship and was one of the reasons DAG wanted to step outside of our relationship and explore a pleasure (kink).

As far as metas, it took forever for DAG to convince me that I needed his partner's phone numbers. I didn't want them because I didn't see a need to be connected to them. Only when he mentioned their use in an emergency did I get the point. Begrudgingly, I took the numbers and later regretted it. I was being sucked into their text conversations and wanted nothing to do with it. Which is why I now have a boundary about contact info.

It's good to know you found someone outside of your relationship to speak with (the gay colleague). There were things I refused to bring up with DAG, because I felt he had a bias towards Bruiser and Fisticuffs, but I felt free to talk to my other friends, as I felt they were honest brokers.

The one thing that hit home with me from your post is about your fear of KC loving someone more than she loves you. I think (I have no proof) this is the biggest reason why people have a hard time in adopting a poly lifestyle. I hate to say this, but you have no control over how she feels towards anybody. What gave me comfort was that DAG always came home. He never stayed overnight with either of his partners. He told me several times I am his one and only, and I accepted it as truth. That reinforcement helped me work through my jealousy and eventually realize that I was feeling envy more than jealousy. Now I see envy as a good emotion as it motivates me learn more about DAG, his dreams and wants.

Keep posting! It's great for processing all sorts of stuff and the people on this board have been very helpful and understanding.
 
Okay, so KC is planning her first 2-night stay with Jem, therefore, this time we have to work out more details than "You going out tonight?" Throughout the planning and discussion I found myself getting sick of using the term "your girlfriend" and I let a backhanded statement slip out. I said, "So if you're staying two nights you must be at THAT LEVEL." She froze for about 10 seconds just staring at me. I was bracing for an outburst, but then she just kept on with the conversation as if it never happened.

That was on Friday and she stayed with Jem Saturday night. Before she left though I told her I didn't think it was fair that Jem gets to know my name and I can't know hers. It felt childish to say "It's not fair," but that's just how I felt from the gut.

Then on Sunday KC went into town to do some shopping and I was on the computer checking on a loan for a car (which we did not purchase) and I got a text FROM JEM!

It said "Hi [my name], this is [her name]. You know who I am. Please add me to your contact list."

It made a shiver go down my neck and then it literally felt like there were 100 rubber bands wrapped around my torso and one by one they were breaking and falling off. I've never felt anything like that from such a seemingly benign text, but to me it was huge. I now understand the saying "taking a weight off my chest" because it physically felt like that.

I responded "Will do, thank you," and that was all the communication I've ever had with her. But now I feel a lot better.

As soon as KC got home I started helping her put groceries away and she noticed I was smiling. She asked "What's so funny?"
Me: nothing
KC: she texted you, didn't she?
Me: she sure did
KC: it's only for emergencies
Me: can I look for her Facebook?
KC: you won't find it, she uses a different name... no, don't.
Me: ok fair enough

Now all of this relates to another situation that I will have to write about at a later time, but ever since Sunday I've felt much more comfortable about my wife and Jem being together.
 
As far as metas, it took forever for DAG to convince me that I needed his partner's phone numbers. I didn't want them because I didn't see a need to be connected to them. Only when he mentioned their use in an emergency did I get the point. Begrudgingly, I took the numbers and later regretted it. I was being sucked into their text conversations and wanted nothing to do with it. Which is why I now have a boundary about contact info.

It's just too big of a coincidence that we were both typing about this at the same time. THE UNIVERSE IS WATCHING US!!

Edit: And we are both birds.
 
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It's just too big of a coincidence that we were both typing about this at the same time. THE UNIVERSE IS WATCHING US!!
I will open up and say this: if you ever want to vent, ask questions, or just shoot the shit, contact me. I think you've seen my blog on this site, so you can post there too.
 
I don't even know where to start tonight. I got a call from the health department. My son was exposed and now has to quarantine. He was supposed to go on a field trip next week that I'd already paid for, but it looks like the earliest he can go back is Wednesday, if he tests negative, and I have to wait till Monday to get him tested.

KC still has profiles active on some dating apps and sometimes she will have several new "potential matches" or notifications. There was a time when I felt like she has me, she has Jem, isn't that enough? but I don't think that way anymore. So sometimes she will swipe through right in front of me and the other night one of my first girlfriends (from way before I met KC) showed up as a potential match on her notifications! She said "Oh honey look, it's your old friend." Now normally that wouldn't be scary, but in this case KC thinks my "old friend" was only a friend and has no idea how intimate we were at one time, not that I was keeping it a secret. It just never came up. So I asked if she was going to respond and luckily KC said no way. KC seems to dislike her enough that she would be upset with me if she found out we were ever together.

Still waiting on more costume items to arrive. I need the torso so I can try to attach the tail. I hope I can handle walking in the boots. I have a tracking number on those and they left China, still not stateside yet. Wings are coming from Russia and no tracking on that order. I sure hope everything gets here in time.

Strangely, I've been feeling like I'm living out the movie "The Truman Show." There have just been so many times I've felt like everyone can read my mind. It's not paranoia; it's just that things have unusually been falling into place at the right times lately.
 
Well, Sunday October 17th marks the day KC came home, took off Jem's pendant, and set it on the counter top. Like WTF! Things seemed to be going better than they ever have and now out of the blue it all blows up?

They just had 2 whole days together. KC left Friday night, was gone all of Saturday, came home today (Sunday), took off the pendant, took a shower, went to bed, and fell asleep until I woke her up this afternoon.

She is miserable. I didn't know what to do. I took her and the kids to the pumpkin patch where we picked out a wagon full for Halloween. Then we went and walked a nature trail. It seemed to help a little bit, but she still went right back to bed after dinner.

I have to work a 12-hour shift in the morning so I won't even be available for her. I'm just stunned. I was so excited because my costume wings arrived and I really wanted to show her and then all the excitement was crushed.
 
Mourning a relationship while still in another one is one of the strangest places I've ever been. So was supporting a partner through their own breakup. (Doing both at the same time is even more not something I recommend but that's another story for another time.) I'm not sure I have advice, since it sounds like your wife isn't gonna be the sort to process out loud with you. If she was, I'd have all sorts of advice about supporting while maintaining your own boundaries so it wasn't just totally TMI.

As for the "out of the blue" thing? If I had to guess (not _actually_ knowing any of the people in this situation) the story I'd place on this is that Jem hit a point where she couldn't deal with KC being married anymore, and the two full days together was enough to emphasize that fact. I'm picturing her thinking "this is amazing but I will never have this full time so I'm going to end it here before I hurt even more". It's a guess, it's one possible story, but... maybe a useful one?
 
Mourning a relationship while still in another one is one of the strangest places I've ever been. So was supporting a partner through their own breakup. (Doing both at the same time is even more not something I recommend but that's another story for another time.) I'm not sure I have advice, since it sounds like your wife isn't gonna be the sort to process out loud with you. If she was, I'd have all sorts of advice about supporting while maintaining your own boundaries so it wasn't just totally TMI.

I'll not hijack this thread to make it about me, so I will post this on my blog. icesong brings up something that I have been wrestling with for some time. Look for it over there.

Rooster, your weekend sounds like it was tough, and I feel for you. I've been in KC's shoes where I just shut down and rough it out on my own. It sounds like my bouts of depression where I cut everyone out for a few days before I 'recover'. My only advice is to be there for her, but give her some space. It really sucks, but that's what's worked for me in the past.

Please keep us posted!
 
As for the "out of the blue" thing?
Yea I suppose it's not "out of the blue", I mean I saw it coming, I even blogged about it. But it just feels like this happened right during a high point, it felt (from my end) like things were improving and then BAM. It's like I was ready for it until it actually happened. Now I just don't know what direction the future is headed.

Please keep us posted!

Thank you, I will.
I apologize for the shoddy inconsistent response but my head is just not "in it" right now.
 
When I went to work on Monday Grey took one glance at me and could instantly tell something was wrong. I wish I had that good of an ability to read people.

On Wednesday KC finally started to open up, and on Thursday we had some long serious discussions about our relationship model and other related stuff. I deleted Jems number as soon as KC asked me to.

There is a bit of relief knowing that my wife is not going to leave me for another woman (this time). But the fear of her leaving me has not been strong or even happened in a long time.

I believe KC is going to stop pursuing outside relationships for the time being. She is going to let things cool down for a while (maybe forever). Neither one of us really expected things to be this difficult.

I’ve had thoughts and feelings of:

“This would be so much easier if she weren’t so demi."

“This would be so much easier if the [outside of the mainstream] dating pool wasn’t so limited around here." Perhaps if we lived in a more urban area partners wouldn’t have to “settle” for what they can get, or “tolerate” things they aren’t actually comfortable with.

“This would be so much easier if it weren’t such a one-sided deal."

But at the end of the day, none of that really even matters. In short, what it comes down to is that ideas are a lot easier than reality. If things ever start back up, at least we will have a little better understanding of what to expect, and what the other party deserves. But until then I just hope that I can be enough for her.
 
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I'm just stunned. I was so excited because my costume wings arrived and I really wanted to show her and then all the excitement was crushed.
I feel for you. I absolutely hate this part of poly, the relationship run-off as I call it. But realistically, it's unavoidable.

Years ago, I had a bad ending to a relationship, and I remember being out on a date with my husband and being completely unable to focus on him while texting back-and-forth with her. I was not a good partner during that breakup. I just couldn't compartmentalize. I feel terrible for putting my (now ex-) husband, who didn't want to be poly in the first place, through that.

More recently, my boyfriend's secondary dumped him, and I was crushed when he cancelled plans with me so he could "process," and I got all anxious because she was a known entity (undemanding of his time and attention, not a cowgirl). I started thinking, yeah but what about the next woman he dates? I got so upset that I dumped him too. I was sure, in the midst of my anxiety and hurt, that I could not do poly with him a second longer. (I took it back the next day, but still...)

I applaud how compassionate you're being, and I bet you look wonderful in your wings.
 
@Rooster I hope it works out. I'm sending you good vibes regarding the breakup with Jem. Keep us posted, please!
 
Ok so I didn't get all the pieces for the costume, boots and chest still have not arrived so I added some chain and red LEDs to some old work boots.
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Unfortunately the tail is hidden in this picture but it is there. Just a little bit more "tuning" and I'll be ready for this weekend.

When I was working on the costume I went into a drawer looking for fabric, which is also the drawer we keep our adult toys in. I haven't had a reason to open it in weeks. So while I was searching for costume parts I noticed there were some new items in the drawer, a lot of new toys. She stocked up but didn't tell me! It's all still sealed in packaging or looks unused. So now I don't know if this is stuff she brought home from Jem's place, or new things she wants to try. I dropped the hint that I knew about the added items. She acknowledged me but didn't go any further. I tried to get her talk more, but she didn't want to. So now I have that lingering question on my mind.

Other than that, things have been good lately. We did a lot of family activities, went to the best haunted house I've ever seen. KC got me an awesome gift. Work has been less awful.
 
Your costume is awesome!! I really like the pauldrons. The mask is ridiculous, in a good way. :) You need some shoes that look like hooves and your golden!!

I hope you get the answers you need regarding your pleasure chest discovery.
 
Your outfit is great!
 
Wow, it doesn't really feel like it's been 3 years since posting, but I guess time flies. I just stop in once in a while and read to see how you guys are doing, but really haven't interacted much because things got really busy for a while, and then they got boring.

Well one "blog worthy" event happened a couple years ago... KC and I have a good friend (we will call Goat) that we have both known since childhood. (I was his landlord for a few years, but he has another apartment now.) Goat was the clerk of the closest gas station to our house, so we would see him and chat regularly.

So one day on Facebook I noticed he had sent me a blank message. Then the next day I had the whole family with me, including KC and we stopped to get gas. At the counter I was chatting with Goat and said "Hey did you try to send me a message yesterday?" He quickly said "No... no I didn't try to send you a message." I thought it seemed odd because he responded so quickly, almost like he was anticipating the question, but at that time I just wrote it off as a glitch.

A few nights later I stopped for gas (alone) and Goat was working. So I went in to pay and he said "Hey man, I DID try to message you, but I didn't want to say anything in front of KC." He told me he didn't want to be the bearer of bad news, but that KC was possibly cheating on me. At this point I knew where the story was going, but I let him continue on and listened patiently.

He was very uncomfortable telling me how one late night KC came in with someone hanging all over her and she didn't try to stop it (at this point I'm trying to hold back my grin). So I stopped him mid story because I could see he really didn't want to be a "snitch" and asked him "Was it a girl?" And his eyes got big and he starts yelling about "OMG you KNOW? OMG, she is gonna leave you for a GIRL, bro."

So I started telling him about how we live and that it was okay, and he just shook his head. I could tell that the friendship of all 3 of us just changed and now he will never see us as the same couple he knew.

Anyway, that happened years ago, and Goat's attitude toward us never got bad. After some time, he seemed to accept it as the way things are, and we all have normal conversations again, just like we used to.

That experience kinda made me feel more uncomfortable about who knows what and who needs to know. It's the fear of judgment setting in, but ya know know what...? Fuck 'em. I'm old enough now where I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks. Everybody whose opinion I actually cared about are either long dead, or they live in my house. Everyone else can "worry about themselves."

When I read that last part it sounds immature in a way. I mean I suppose it can't be 100% true, but still, anyway.

Other personal updates:
We have discovered that I am incredibly mono, and she is NOT, and that's fine with me.

I always knew she was bi. But I just assumed (because I'm straight and ignorant) her attraction levels were 50%girls/50%guys. I've learned that it's more like 90%girls/10%guys, and she says I'm one of the very few males in life that she has ever been attracted to.

Since my last post she has only had 1 other relationship alongside of ours, but that only lasted around 1 year and it's been just us for a while. I haven't noticed her pursuing anyone else either.

I did at first feel like I was misled in the sense... well, it's hard to explain, but when I gave consent to this I felt like she was just wanting to get off with some girls out of desire or for fun. But now I see that see wants to be emotionally involved with women (ya know, poly). Not that she didn't try to explain it, but back then I just didn't comprehend it very well. I had my eyes open the whole time and knew what I could be in for, and I still want her to be the happiest she can be in life.

Her last relationship was much less parallel. Well, it was still PARALLEL, but much less extreme this time. The 24 hour rule seemed to eventually fade away.

The way we fight and argue has changed, for the better actually. It's been more constructive. There is an art in knowing how far to push an argument. If you stop or shut down too soon things don't get resolved. If you continue too long things get worse. If either of you ever gets to the point of saying things just to be emotionally harmful, STOP.

Every single relationship dynamic is unique. There is no "template." All definitions are subject to opinion, and usually there just is no cut and dry "answer," only opinions and advice. Take everything with a grain of salt.

Anyway, I'm getting tired. I'll update the rest later.
 
When I read back my earlier posts it reminds me of how "high-schoolish" we were both behaving.

And when I read this back,
But I just assumed (because I'm straight and ignorant) her attraction levels were 50%girls/50%guys.
It really seems like I'm making a lame excuse. However, I should have typed it like (because I'm "straight and ignorant") as it was just me taking a stab at something KC said, and I know I shouldn't do that shit, but sometimes I "vent" in strange ways.

Something else I consider "strange" is discussing self-gratification on Facebook, but it's a rabbit hole I went down LOL. So it seems I'm fairly abnormal, as most men say they TCB 4-5 times weekly, a lot of times just for good health or something, the same as stretching when you get out of bed every morning. It's like a routine, I suppose, and seems to be almost mechanical to them. Whereas, I'm at like once every 3 weeks, give or take a week. But (and this feels so weird to talk about) when I do it, I do I RIGHT, because when it's just me, I can be as exotic or erotic as I want, which is often times more satisfying than real sex. That seems to be a mental issue on my end.

So about the other relationship that happened:
"Mac" was a woman that KC connected with locally. Mac already had another partner, so when they bonded we became an instant N, which was startling to me at first. I even started lurking here again around that time. But thankfully, KC is very responsible and we all remain s.t.d. free (huge relief to me). Their schedule was very similar to her last relationship.

I actually met her face-to-face more than one time. I was surprised they were compatible, because she was nothing like KC's usual "type." However, KC did lose her temper with me in front of Mac one time. Mac was waiting in the car in the driveway, and I reenacted that line from Liar Liar, where Fletcher waves and says, "Jerry, enjoy my wife!" Me and Mac both busted up laughing, but KC did not find the humor in it AT ALL and came unglued on me. I almost wonder if she blew up because Mac was laughing too and that didn't sit right with her. Or I suppose it's because I'm making jokes about a vulnerable situation. It was never brought up again though, so if it isn't a problem now, then it isn't a problem.
 
Look I've typed out about 10 paragraphs about 3 times tonight and deleted them so here it is all summarized:

I sometimes feel like I'm just a beard...that is all.
 
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