First date blues

Stevek

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As you know from my posting history, I finally have a date, and we are meeting tonight. I am equally excited and equally nervous.

We are sending our kids to their grandparents' place for the night, as I usually spend time with them in the evening. I told my parents and kids that Emma and I are planning to go somewhere together, but of course, that is a lie. I feel a bit guilty about lying to them, but we both think this is the only way right now.

Emma insists that she doesn't mind if I stay overnight. However, I shut down the conversation very quickly, as I think it is too premature to discuss that.

Anyway, I am writing this because I am finding it difficult to lie to my sons.
 
As I see from your first post, the boys are only 12 and 9. Kids that age do NOT need to know every adult activity their parents get up to. Would you give them a play-by-play of what you and Emma did in bed the previous night? Of course not! Would you share a porn site with them that got you off recently? Gods forbid! This is exactly the same thing. Rest easy.
 
As I see from your first post, the boys are only 12 and 9. Kids that age do NOT need to know every adult activity their parents get up to. Would you give them a play-by-play of what you and Emma did in bed the previous night? Of course not! Would you share a porn site with them that got you off recently? Gods forbid! This is exactly the same thing. Rest easy.
They are 13 and 10 now. I think you are right. Emma seems to think that I am sabotaging my date by overthinking about small details.
 
Emma is right.

All the best for your date, go have some fun, be genuinely curious about the person you are with, and don't get stuck sitting behind a table like it's a job interview.
 
Hi Steve,

It is hard to be in the closet about your polyamory, especially when you have kids. You'll probably have to tell the kids eventually, but only you can decide when the time is right. In the meantime, there might be half-truths you can tell them, such as, "Dad's going out with a friend." I don't know, as they're your kids, I really feel it is not my place to tell you how to handle that area.

Regards,
Kevin T.
 
I agree that you need to go and enjoy yourself, and you don't need to feel guilty about not telling everything to your children at that age. If it develops into a longer-lasting relationship, at some point, when they are much older, you might tell them.

In the meantime, you might talk to them in general terms about different types of relationships that people have, including gay, straight, poly, etc. Keep it casual and positive, and like it's perfectly normal. They may eventually figure it out themselves at a later time.

I have been out and open with my kids, starting when my older ones were 12 and 15. They were very accepting-- but I had also raised them to be accepting of everyone, as long as what they were doing was not hurting others. They thought I was actually "cool" for being poly. Now, as young adults, they often ask me, "How are your partners doing?"

My youngest is being raised poly, in that she has met my partners after a time. I introduce them as my friends, but sometimes we hug, hold hands, or lightly kiss. It's normal to her.
 
Thanks a lot, everyone, for your wishes. The night went much better than I had expected. As soon as I left the house, Emma texted me, telling me that there were condoms in my glove box. I had to drive for around 45 minutes to get to the date.

I met J, and the date went okay. But for some reason, I didn’t feel the spark. She is a few years younger than me and works in education, but I realized that we didn't have a lot in common. After dinner, she suggested we go to her place. I was of two minds, but just threw caution to the wind and went to her place. We made out in the car, and then she suggested we take the show inside. I won’t go into the details, but I had sex twice yesterday. I really enjoyed the night, and she was also a nice partner.

I left early in the morning and reached home. Emma was sleeping when I entered our bedroom and soon woke up while I was getting some things ready to take a shower. I had never seen her that horny in the past few years. She practically pounced on me like a mountain lion, and I just got lucky a third time in less than 12 hours.

I don’t want to see J again. I don’t think we have a future. I am feeling very guilty about what I am going to say to her. Emma says that I should be upfront, but is there a way to tell her that I don’t want to see her again without hurting her feelings? For what it’s worth, I would have just gone back home after dinner, but she is the one who suggested that we should have sex.
 
"Hi J. I enjoyed our date last night, but I am very sorry, I just didn't feel that we had enough in common for a lasting relationship. I didn't feel that 'click.' You're a great person and I wish you well."

Short, sweet and to the point. Move on. Most first dates don't work out.

It kinda sucks that you went ahead and had sex, even though you knew that she wasn't quite what you were looking for.

On the other hand, if the sex was good, if you want a FWB as you seek a more compatible partner, you could be upfront and tell J that, suggest that kind of thing. She might be insulted by that, though.

I know you were eager to get your feet (dick) wet, but you might rethink sex on the first date if you want a real romantic relationship, not just a hookup. When I was on the dating scene, I usually avoided sex on the first date. As a woman mostly dating men, I think they generally thought of me as just a body, a hole, no matter what nice things they said, if I "put out" right away. No long-lasting relationships with men ever came of this behavior.

(However, with my female partner, whom I met in 2009, we'd talked online for several weeks before we arranged to meet. We could read each other and just "knew" we could have sex and still be super into each other emotionally, interests-wise, etc. I could just tell by the stories she told me about her past that she was a sincere, trustworthy person. It was pretty much love at first sight. And here we are, 16 years later.)
 
Parenting while living a non-monogamous lifestyle is definitely complex, and I think a lot of thoughtful points have been made here already.

One thing I think is worth exploring more deeply is how our relationship choices might shape the way our kids view relationships in the future-- not just what we tell them, but what they see, absorb, and normalize, especially when it comes to values like accountability, honesty, and emotional responsibility.

For example, I’ve noticed over the years that some single parents, regardless of relationship style, choose to wait a certain amount of time before introducing a new partner to their kids. They do this to build emotional safety, gauge the relationship’s stability, or simply give the child time to adjust. This approach tends to prioritize the child’s needs first.

On the opposite end, some households have a steady flow of “just friends” coming and going. To a child, it might seem like casual friendships, but kids are incredibly intuitive. They can pick up on emotional cues, energy shifts, and even silence. If these friends are only around when the kids are asleep or away, it can send mixed messages about what adult relationships actually look like.

Then there are FWB situations, where adults may frame the connection as platonic to avoid confusing the child. While this might seem protective in the moment, it can create longer-term confusion, especially if a child bonds with that person, but then they vanish from their life.

The point here isn’t to judge or say one way is right or wrong. Polyamory looks different for everyone. But if we’re going to talk about being ethical, especially when kids are involved, then we should also be asking ourselves: how many of our choices are truly about our kids’ well-being, and how many might be about protecting our own comfort, image, or privacy? And beyond that, how do we model relationships in ways our kids can learn from and choose freely, not just adopt because it’s all they’ve ever seen?

Here’s another thing to consider: if kids are in their late teens to early twenties and all they’ve seen growing up is monogamy—whether from their parents or the surrounding culture—they may have already internalized monogamy as the “default” relationship model. Even if a parent later opens up about being polyamorous, it might not fully register or feel relatable, because it doesn’t match the emotional blueprint they’ve been building for years. At that age, they’re forming their own identities, often influenced heavily by what they’ve seen modeled. Introducing something new like polyamory at that stage can feel like a disruption rather than an expansion of understanding.

By contrast, if a child is younger and sees a healthy, emotionally-responsible polyamorous relationship modeled over time, complete with visible care, mutual respect, and healthy boundaries, they might be more open to understanding it as just one valid way people can love and connect.

But even then, how they perceive that dynamic matters. If they see arguments, stress, or one partner being neglected, it might reinforce the belief that polyamory is unstable, even if the intent was ethical.

Psychology backs this up. Research from family systems theory and social learning theory both show that kids often absorb relational norms through what they observe, not just what they’re told. So much depends on the emotional tone of what they witness: the quality of time shared, how disagreements are handled, how transparent and respectful the adults are. It's not just about whether the relationship is mono or poly, it’s about how it's lived and how it makes the child feel. That perception can shape how they build or resist similar structures later in life.

It takes a lot to share something so personal, and I really respect that. I’m not here to tell anyone what’s right or wrong, but I do think there are some questions worth sitting with, especially when kids are watching and learning from us.

What values are we actually teaching them, not just through what we say, but how we live? If we say we want them to have the freedom to explore their own paths—poly, mono, or anything else—how do we make sure we’re not shaping their beliefs unintentionally, just by what we normalize without deeper conversations?

Kids often mirror our behaviours long before they’re ready to question them. So if they grow up in a polyamorous environment, are they truly choosing it, or inheriting it by default?

What’s the line between privacy and secrecy when it comes to our new relationships, especially in the early stages? Protecting them is valid, but when does a “white lie” cross into quiet dishonesty that chips away at trust?

And maybe most importantly, how do we hold ourselves accountable when emotions are high, but the long-term effects on our kids are still unfolding?

Ethics in parenting—polyamorous or not—often come down to those small, quiet decisions we make every day. Sometimes the guilt we feel isn’t about doing something “wrong,” but about not aligning fully with our values yet. And that’s okay, too. This is a journey.

If you’re sitting with guilt or uncertainty, you’re probably already doing more inner work than many. So maybe instead of looking for perfect answers, it’s about asking the right questions, like:
Will future me feel good about the choices I’m making now?
Will my kids look back and say, “My parent was honest, thoughtful, and real with me, even when it was complicated”?

Sometimes, staying honest without oversharing is enough. For example, telling your kids, “I’m going out with a friend,” might not be a lie; it might be the level of truth that respects their understanding right now. If they ask more later, you’ll be ready to meet them with honesty that fits their age and emotional maturity. Something like, “I’m spending time with someone who’s becoming important to me,” can still be real and respectful, without rushing them into adult concepts too soon.

Again, you know your kids better than any of us, and their level of emotional maturity.

No one has a perfect blueprint for this, but it might help to remember that lying to protect can feel easier short-term, but trust is something we build in the long-term.

And respect goes both ways—not just toward our kids, but toward ourselves, our partners, and the kind of openness we say we believe in.

I didn’t go back to read past posts from the OP. I'm just responding to this post specifically, and reflecting based on what was shared here. No judgment, just thoughts I hope add something meaningful to the conversation. This topic isn’t often discussed deeply within non-monogamous lifestyles, even though it really should be.

I brought it up in my own dynamics at the time, and it’s something I encountered years ago with past partners. More recently, I was in a monogamy-based situation where the partner had older kids who strongly disliked non-monogamy. Their values around monogamy were deeply ingrained, and their views on people having multiple sexual partners were openly negative.

I remember one moment clearly—one of them was talking with their mother, expressing disgust toward a friend for their sexual behaviour, while both my partner and I gently pointed out that judgment shouldn’t be passed like that, because, what if that friend’s relationship style is non-monogamy, just like monogamy is valid for them?

It still hit me how deep those biases run. Slut-shaming or relationship-shaming of any kind isn’t just unfair, it’s harmful. It’s immoral to judge someone’s consensual choices when they’re not harming anyone.

It reminded me again how important it is to reflect on how we talk about these things, especially around kids and teens. Whether we’re poly, mono, or somewhere in between, how we navigate these conversations, what we say, how we say it, and what we let slide, can shape not just values, but also empathy and understanding in the next generation.

Social theory source:


I know some individuals dislike Psychology Today. Here is another.

 
Ooo, Bandura. Love him.
 
I texted her that I wanted to talk to her but she kind of got the hint already and she was cool with it. I was getting worried for absolutely no reason.
 
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