Is it possible to transition from emotional cheating to a polyamorous relationship?

Alliumqueen

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Hey there!

I am new to this website, and to the polyamory world. I posted my story to the introduction section but feel like I will get better feedback here.

Overview: I'm a 27 year old queer woman, who was in a 2 1/2 year monogamous relationship with a 35 year old queer woman. We broke up the middle of last month (February). We have now started to have a more casual relationship... we are still being sexually/emotionally intimate with one another but are not fully committed so we can work on/focus on ourselves more. She doesn't want to lose me and neither do I. She also says that her heart is wanting something new right now.

She is currently being sexually intimate with someone who was our mutual friend that she emotionally cheated on me with and she is also pursuing one another person. I am transitioning from our breakup to our new reality... am almost healed and am almost ready to start seeing other people. We have both been serial monogamists our whole life. I have always been polycurious but never had the chance to practice polyamory. Although she has been in monogamous relationship, her first relationship was more polyamorous but she didn't know it at the time. We are both starting to open up our world and hearts to the idea of it all and have been researching into it recently. I also recently purchased The Ethical Slut.


Full Story: Covid caused a huge strain in our personal lives, which in turn affected our relationship. I left for 2 weeks in December for Christmas, she started hanging out with a mutual friend while I was gone and developed a "crush on this person." She has a history of doing this in past relationships when things head South. During January she became increasingly distance once I got back into town, she blamed it on Covid reasons at first. Then she also told me that she has been thinking a lot about our age difference and is wanting kids in the next 2-3 years, I feel like I'll be ready for kids in 4 years. She also is frustrated I'm in college still (I'm working on my undergrad). Then I found out she emotionally cheated on me throughout January and even stayed the night at this woman's house while we were still technically together and I called her out on it the beginning of last month (February). She doesn't understand/believe in emotional cheating because she sees cheating as physical infidelity but what she did crossed a boundary of mine/broke my trust. The whole experience hurt me deeply if not more than if she would have just physically cheated and she is starting to understand that more now.

We talked about opening up our relationship/being polyamorous at the beginning of February, she leaned into the idea but she felt like it would be too much work... We had been in an elongated breakup all of February, but it felt like we officially broke up near the end of that month. We were not that sexually active during February, but we were still cuddling/talking/figuring out if it was what we really wanted and she continued to tell me that this woman was "just a friend". At the beginning of March we were still talking about what direction we wanted to go in, we started to become intimate again. I caught her being intimate with that woman and was originally furious because she said they were just friends and she promises that was their first time. We had a deep talk about everything and she starts becoming more truthful about things she has been hiding and is starting to seem more like her self every time we have breakthroughs. She tells me that "she she sees herself spending the rest of her life with me but that she wants to explore this person right now." They have sex near the middle of this month (March 12). I proposed us having a casual relationship but it was hard to wrap my head around it all since I'm still feeling hurt about the deception so I start to focus on myself and my growth.

After spending days apart she tells me last week (March 22) that she is falling in love with me again. We talk/are intimate all week, she tells me her heart wants something new right now and that is why she wants to continue exploring this person but she doesn't want to lose me and I don't want to lose her. She also has developed feelings for my poly friend, we have all talked about our boundaries and agree that it's okay for them to have be cuddle buddies. This newer relationship/arrangement she is pursuing feels good to me because it started with consent and has been openly communicated. And I even experienced a small form of compersion from it. But I still have resentment towards the original woman that she is being sexually intimate with because that relationship started with/based off of denial/deception/lies. It has been hard to let go, I am still in the process of forgiving.

I am almost healed from the whole emotional cheating experience and am almost healed from grieving the death of our monogamous relationship. It has been harder on me to accept this new reality because I wasn't ready for it. I am worried though that my ex hasn't allowed herself to heal fully since she overlapped/rebounded so quickly. Despite all of the hurt and healing though, this new direction excites both of us and I almost feel ready to put myself out there again, and my ex/anchor is preparing herself for the emotions that come up when I find someone, but she also supports and wants this for me.

Also today we have agreed that we are seeing one another again... and have agreed we see one other as each other's anchor but we are not making anything official again, at least at the moment. She says that her relationship with the woman she emotionally cheated on me with is a FWB situation. I'm not sure if all of this is considered polyamory but there is consent/communication all around... we all know about one another. I am wondering from other's experiences if it is possible to transition into polyamory given our situation?

Thanks for reading! Look forward to hearing feedback and hearing about other people's experiences.
 
Your situation is very unique to you, so there is no definitive "yes you can" or "no you can't".

To me, I've never had much luck with rekindling an ex relationship. Too much baggage, it just doesn't work. It's just too hard to get totally over the hurts that have been felt, on both sides, and they can crop up in a moment of tension or even alter daily behaviour significantly. Others could have had totally different experiences with it so..."maybe" it will work?

If I were you, I'd probably start to think of myself as solo-poly. That way you can explore poly *for yourself* rather than as an extension of your ex/anchor.
 
Hello Alliumqueen,

Welcome to the forum, and to the poly world. It sounds like you are in the early days of polying. Sorry about your breakup, and I am glad that you and your ex/anchor are seeing each other again. It sounds like you need to build up the trust with her after she emotionally cheated on you. It seems the two of you have differing ideas about what constitutes cheating, but at least she accepts your view even if she doesn't understand it.

I think the thing you need to do is to have her go slowly in her relationship with the woman she cheated on you with. This way you will have a chance to catch your breath, and complete your healing. As for you seeing other people, I think you will know when the time is right to do that. Again, baby steps. And keep communicating with each other honestly, transparently, and generously along the way. Good luck, and keep us posted.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
I mean this kindly, ok? This sounds like too much too fast to me. Could slow down.

As best as I can make out in chronological order... Blue just to visually block it off. You correct me if I get anything wrong, ok?

PAST
  • Your partner has a history of doing this in past relationships when things head South. (What is "this?" Cheating? Making drama? Something else?)
DECEMBER
  • You left for 2 weeks in December for Christmas
JANUARY
Your partner started hanging out with a mutual friend and developed a crush on this person.
Your partner was distant when you got home in January.
  • At first she blamed it on Covid
  • Then it was wanting kids in the next 2-3 years where you think you will be ready in 4 years
  • Then it was you still being in college frustrating her
  • Turns out through January she was dating this other woman (??) and emotionally cheating.
    • She spent the night over there without you knowing.
    • She doesn't understand/believe in emotional cheating because she sees cheating as physical infidelity only.
    • She wasn't forthcoming with what was going on
    • And she did cross a boundary of yours and broke your trust. (What has be done to make repair/rebuild trust? When was this work started and finished?)
    • After 2.5 years together, she didn't know this about you? What you consider cheating and do not? And what your boundaries are?
FEBRUARY
Feb is mostly spent figuring out what to do next. It ends in an official break up at the end of Feb.
MARCH
  • But you don't STAY broken up because you start sharing sex again top of March. (what are the new agreements?)
  • March 12 you catch her sharing sex with the with the cheating partner and get pissed.
    • She promises it was the first time sharing sex. (Were you both free to see others at this point and share sex with them? Or is this physical cheating now?)
    • You suggest having a casual relationship but still hurting.
  • She also wants to start a cuddle thing with a the poly friend in March.
    • You all decide to poly.
    • This is the best time and best way to start poly because....?
  • March 31: Seeing each other again. (was there another break up in march?)
    • Going to be each other's "anchors" now. But not telling anyone officially. So not casual after all... but why the secrecy?
I could be wrong... but to me it sounds like you are changing too many things too fast. And maybe dragging out the break up? So rather than simplifying your life you are overcomplicating it?

I am worried though that my ex hasn't allowed herself to heal fully since she overlapped/rebounded so quickly.

Do you not have that worry for your own self? That you haven't allowed yourself to heal fully since you are changing so many things so fast?

Is the reason you worry about her healing is because without her doing that, you can't really trust her that there will be no more new shenanigans? You are on guard waiting for the next new ding?

Despite all of the hurt and healing though, this new direction excites both of us and I almost feel ready to put myself out there again, and my ex/anchor is preparing herself for the emotions that come up when I find someone, but she also supports and wants this for me.

Like really for you? Or to assuage her guilt over how this all started while still looking "generous" and retaining access to you and your services? Not trying to be mean. I don't know either of you. But I've seen that happen before. Trying to use poly as the "whitewash" to cheating.

You know you can poly date without your partner, right? Like be broken up, and if you feel ready to date other people, go poly date them then.

Although I'd worry you were on the rebound if you asked me out. If I found out you had a cheating thing in Jan and broke up end of Feb, but not really. And are now trying poly in March with your formerly cheating partner and she's still with the former(?) friend as a FWB?

I don't like drama, and that sounds messy to me. Even if I liked you, I'd be "ok, let's wait and see" before I would want to take up with you because it's all so FRESH still.

But I still have resentment towards the original woman that she is being sexually intimate with because that relationship started with/based off of denial/deception/lies. It has been hard to let go, I am still in the process of forgiving.
Well, she was supposed to be your friend. Did she apologize or try to make amends?

As for the partner... it sounds like you have agreed to get back together after breaking up and are now in her poly network that is you, the FWB you don't like, and the cuddle buddy. (And the desire for kids in 2-3 years when you want it 4 years out at the soonest).

Are you really ok with all that? Because some people prefer NOT to deal in the cheating accomplice. It's more like "Ok, I accept the cheating happened and forgive. But I'm not doing poly with you if your previous cheating partner is going to be in the network. You can go poly without me if they remain in your network. "

And children is a big issue. If you aren't compatible for that in the end anyway because she wants kids sooner than you want them... why go thru all these hoops now only to break up later over that?

I'm not getting a good sense of what you value and in what order. I think you are not giving yourself enough time here to do your soul searching to figure it out.

Also today we have agreed that we are seeing one another again... and have agreed we see one other as each other's anchor but we are not making anything official again, at least at the moment.

What does that mean to each of you? Sounds serious.

If being casual, why agree to be that then? For what purpose?

I imagine you want to be reassured it will all pan out in the end. But TBH?

It's too early to tell.
  • Is this just a new way to drag out the break up? And you both finally split in the end?
  • Or does it become poly? And if so... what's the stance on former cheating accomplices being in the poly network?
  • Or was it a game changer in the sense that the experience helped you both realize you each want poly... but discover you are not compatible to do poly with each other?
  • Or does it all work out so all these people remain together in a stable poly network?
Not enough time has passed to tell.

Keep in mind that both wanting poly now doesn't mean your both are automatically compatible to poly together. You may discover you have different styles or approaches. You already discovered that you view "emotional cheating" differently. There could be other differences.

So go slow and be kind to yourself as you live into this more. No making new agreements.

And you might consider moving out if you cohabitate and then 30 days NO CONTACT. Do that before trying to casually poly date each other. So one chapter can close before starting another one with some time and space in between. Because you don't sound like you have given yourself that space part yet -- not really.

And honestly? Changing to poly while she's dating the poly friend AND the FWB who she was cheating with? And sharing a home watching all that? That sounds like a recipe for poly hell if not in it already.


If this is supposed to be "casual" now? To me living together with a partner is NOT casual. At least in your own place? You'd be more secure. Like if you try this poly experiment in getting back together with your partner? You have actually been apart for a bit first.

And then you are trying to poly date with some space -- you don't have to live together watching each other with other people. And if it goes wahoonie? You already have your living situation solved.

That would be my suggestion.

Slow some of this stuff down and spend a little more time healing and reflecting on what your values are and what your life goals are at this stage of life before starting new things. What exactly are your dealbreakers in a relationship?

Make sure you aren't bending yourself into pretzels just because you are avoiding a break up.

Galagirl
 
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Hello Alliumqueen,

Welcome to the forum, and to the poly world. It sounds like you are in the early days of polying. Sorry about your breakup, and I am glad that you and your ex/anchor are seeing each other again. It sounds like you need to build up the trust with her after she emotionally cheated on you. It seems the two of you have differing ideas about what constitutes cheating, but at least she accepts your view even if she doesn't understand it.

I think the thing you need to do is to have her go slowly in her relationship with the woman she cheated on you with. This way you will have a chance to catch your breath, and complete your healing. As for you seeing other people, I think you will know when the time is right to do that. Again, baby steps. And keep communicating with each other honestly, transparently, and generously along the way. Good luck, and keep us posted.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
Thank you Kevin!

Thank you for your greetings, acknowledgements and advice. I agree, there is a lot of trust that needs to be built up right now between us, and she definitely should slow things down with that woman. Since we are not official anymore though, and in a weird transition phase, I don't think she would be open to having restrictions at the moment... She has told me she recently she wants to be respectful of boundaries but she also told me she is enjoying her freedom at the moment. Will definitely post updates later, if others are interested :)

I'm really grateful to be able to have a space to talk about these new experiences with.
-Cassandra C.
 
....I am almost healed from the whole emotional cheating experience and am almost healed from grieving the death of our monogamous relationship.
You've got to be honest with yourself first if anything is to develop into a nurturing situation for you. Honestly, after just one month are you truly "almost healed" after a 2+ year relationship that involved cheating?
 
Many people who are "serial monogamists" start to get a roving eye after NRE wears off. New relationship energy generally wears off after 6-24 months. So your partner is right on track with that.

Polyamory can help us to still love and be with our original partner after the NRE wears off. In fact, the lack of codependency in healthy polyamory can make us value our partners more. We have to schedule quality time/dates with everyone. Even if we have an anchor or nesting partner, we can't take them so much for granted. So, in this sense, this all makes sense.

However, having babies and poly do not mix very well. Kids, especially young ones, newborns to middle school age, take an incredible amount of time and work and emotional and physical investment. If your partner wants to have kids with you, and you're almost on the same page, her 3 years, you 4 years, it seems an odd time to start dating multiple other people. Who does she want to have kids with? Does she think you'd be a good mom to your shared baby/babies, or not? Does she think you're a poor provider because you're still working on your undergrad? Have you 2 decided who will actually bear the kid(s)? Are you saving up the money you'll need for kids? Usually one parent takes time off work to have a kid, and may only work part time even after they feel ready to leave the baby.

Meanwhile, your partner is emotionally cheating, and now dating 2 other people besides you. Do you want to have a baby with her at all?? Will she date these 2 women for 2 years each and then get tired of them too? Does she seem stable and trustworthy enough to be a mom? She's 35. The clock is ticking...

If you find Ethical Slut be less than helpful, I'd recommend Opening Up. It's better. Ethical Slut was the first book about modern poly, but better ones have come out since.
 
She doesn't understand/believe in emotional cheating because she sees cheating as physical infidelity but what she did crossed a boundary of mine/broke my trust.

To clarify, is it that the two of you explicitly discussed this "emotional cheating" concept and she just doesn't remember it? Or is it that she agreed to not "emotionally cheat" but her heart was never into it, and never fully intended on complying with this rule?

You've expressed clearly that you don't have a problem with your partner having sex behind your back, but you do have a problem with them having a crush on someone behind your back. Since this is so critically important to you, I am curious to hear about how thoroughly you two discussed this particular concept, and how she could have come away from that conversation with such a wildly different interpretation from your own.

And I even experienced a small form of compersion from it. But I still have resentment towards the original woman that she is being sexually intimate with because that relationship started with/based off of denial/deception/lies. It has been hard to let go, I am still in the process of forgiving.

If someone hides a big bombshell of a realization from me, that tells me something critical about the actual nature of our relationship. This scenario means that they don't trust me to be a reasonable receiver of information, which is a fundamental failure in the concept of trust. It is usually a mixture of the fact that I have demonstrated to them that they can't safely share that kind of information with me, and that they most likely have baggage from previous relationships about how explosive sharing information can be.

I don't want to be an integral part of this breakdown, so it's paramount that I demonstrate that I am a safe receiver of information even when that information is scary or bad news. I put a great deal of effort into monitoring my tone and facial expression when I get unfavorable news, and I bend over backward to make sure they understand that they are safe with me and can express this sort of thing without retribution.

I am almost healed from the whole emotional cheating experience and am almost healed from grieving the death of our monogamous relationship

I agree with a couple of the other posters that I think you should take a closer look at this. I recommend erring on the side of giving it time and air, over diving in and just hoping that everything will be ok.

It's not just about taking care of yourself, but about taking care of the people you love. Resentment is the primary agent of destruction in relationships, so I encourage you to make sure that you are getting into this thing resentment free, and are building structures that aren't designed to foster new resentment.
 
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