Is this typical?

silencebreaking

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When I first met my partner Troop just over two months ago, I knew that he had three other partners in his life. One of them, Maly, had been in Troop's life for a bit over a year, and he was a secondary partner to her. She's in her late 20's or early 30's, a full-time student, works part time, and has a primary that she lives with (Vic). Her primary also has a secondary in his life (Ria).

Shortly after Troop and I started seeing each other, I attended a local poly group meeting with him where I met Maly and Vic. We hit it off, and spent a good portion of the evening talking about anything and everything (as we were the only four that were at this particular meeting...). A week or so later was a local slosh event, which Troop and I attended together. Maly was also there. Troop sat between us, and we had a good time talking together, enough so that Maly told me to send her a friend request. When Maly left, Troop walked her to her car to say good night.

Shortly after Maly left, Troop started receiving messages from Ria that really seemed to be out of line, saying that he was a bad boyfriend, calling him a despicable excuse for a human being, and just being really nasty in general. Maly texted to tell him that she wanted to talk to him when he got home. About 30 minutes after I dropped him off, he texted to tell me that Maly had ended their relationship. Troop has said that it wasn't because of his involvement with me, that it was because she has a lot going on in her life and he isn't able to be there for her the way that she wants him to be (not willing to cancel long-standing plans with friends to go be with her, not willing to drive to see her on a frequent basis {they live almost an hour apart, and he would go see her - but not as frequently as she had recently started wanting}). That said, I can't help feeling that the split is related to our starting to date, mainly due to the timing of things, particularly after the poly group meeting that occurred this evening.

We arrived tonight, only to find that the only people in attendance were Maly, her primary (Vic), and his secondary (Ria). Every time I tried to contribute to the conversation, I was talked over or my ideas/suggestions were shot down (Maly and Ria were planning Maly's graduation party, as she'll be graduating college in May). I knew from conversations with Troop, and with Maly when we first met, that Maly has a gluten sensitivity. While I'm not gluten sensitive, I do have multiple food allergies that require me to carry an epi pen (which Maly was aware of, as we talked a fair amount about issues with dining out when we met - heck, when Vic mentioned ordering pizza for the meeting, Maly said no because "Silence can't have it, and neither can I"). I didn't even have a chance to fully share my bakery suggestion before Ria shot it down, talking about cross contamination and speaking to me as though I was too stupid to understand such a thing. I know it doesn't come across in the written word, but there was so much condescension in the way Ria spoke to me that I was ready to leave around 30 minutes after we arrived.

It felt as though Maly and Ria made a point of excluding me from the conversation, and while Vic tried to include me, there was only so much that he could do. And Troop was pretty much completely excluded from the conversation with Maly and Ria, except when Maly wanted to bring up something from when they were dating (family meeting type things). It was very much an "us girls against the interloper/relationship wrecker" vibe.

When I told one of my friends about it this evening, she said that what I experienced tonight is typical from her experience, and part of the reason why she doesn't do poly any longer. She said it was too much drama to deal with.

Is this really typical of poly relationships/breakups? This is my first experience with poly, so I have no idea what to expect. I knew tonight would be awkward, but I didn't expect to feel so unwelcome.
 
Eh, I don't do the whole group poly thing. Just because you're dating someone doesn't mean their friends, family, and lovers will like you and vise versa. I do know jane and I have acted snarky about other women nate has dated (not to them, just amongst ourselves ) it's pretty clear maly doesn't approve of troop dating you and she bitched to ria about it. Then they are being rude and honestly I would decline any future group gatherings.
 
Gosh damn I felt like I was in high school reading of this behavior.
I personally won't put up with that mess. I used to but then I realized it wasn't worth it just to keep "friends". Nothing to do with poly, those two were acting like shrews.
Run.
 
It's typical of people who haven't figured how to be an adult yet (and that is not necessarily related to age). They behaved poorly and showed you who they really are. Have no further contact if possible.

Poly communities/groups have people in them which means they are subject to any and all of the nonsense that sometimes comes up when people gather. Human nature.
 
Hi silencebreaking,

I would say this is more typical of friendship groups or communities of any kind that you might find in the world. Gay groups, lesbian groups, hetero groups, HIGH SCHOOL groups. Unfortunately, some people form cliques, some people are assholes, and some people are judgmental.

Poly can include drama, yes. People can become involved in other people's relationships, webs can be tangled, etc. The same thing can happen at University when friendship groups spend all their time gossiping about each other's relationships. But poly doesn't HAVE to include drama, and doesn't always!

These people sound like immature idiots. Don't worry about them. Stick with healthy people who are good for you and good to you - poly or otherwise.
 
My god, I had to go over that whole relationship line up twice just to understand it. Way too many people, which can lead to way too much drama. All relationships will have drama, whether they be poly, mono, friendships or any other relationship we have in life. They just seem to have the US against the world routine down to a T.
 
Is this really typical of poly relationships/breakups? This is my first experience with poly, so I have no idea what to expect. I knew tonight would be awkward, but I didn't expect to feel so unwelcome.

You went to a social gathering with a guy you just met a couple of months ago, in attendance was a girl who just dumped him (for whatever reason) and another girl he's dating who just sent him rage texts (for whatever reason). These two people weren't overly thrilled to have you present and (at least by your perspective) were cold and unwelcoming.

Some people are rude, yes.

If you were dating him monogamously and showed up at a party planning party with a couple of his recent exes (at least one of which you know is irrationally angry at him) would you expect them to be warm and kind? Clearly this isn't a poly issue... this is a "mean girl" issue.
 
Hi silencebreaking,

The situation you described -- Ria's behavior especially -- was puzzling and jarring. I don't have enough experience with poly groups to know what's typical with them, although larger groups might have more of a buffer against such juvenile behavior. The Albuquerque poly group I attended was always very cordial, and if there was any drama behind the scenes, they must have hidden it well.

With the poly group you've attended having just a handful of people at most, plus Ria being there intentionally making you feel unwelcome, I would sadly say it's probably not worth attending any of their get-togethers in the future. I can see the conflict of interest between Troop and Maly, but why he qualifies as a despicable excuse for a human being is an utter mystery to me.

Sorry you guys had that crappo experience.
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
I just want to add perspective from the so-called "mean girls" POV. Perhaps they resent their bf adding one more gf to his love life. It sounds like Maly wanted to see more of him, and instead he added you, so now she feels like he has stretched himself too thin in pursuit of the fun NRE. I've been on that side in a poly tangle, and it was one of the reasons I broke up with my bf last year. Perhaps she feels a sense of betrayal and lack of commitment and support from him, and blames it on his choice to chase the new and shiny (you) instead of being a better bf to her.

I could be wrong, but some "poly" people, male or female, are merely Don Juans always in search of the new and shiny. In my opinion, they lack maturity and empathy. Then they end up with a harem who are at each others' throats with jealousy and struggling for position. My ex bf even admitted to me he liked the complication of being fought over. He found it flattering I guess. Bleh. Gross.

Sounds like you "won," dear.:( However, maybe in a year or so, you'll be in Ria and Maly's boat...
 
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