ISO: Insight on Vee Relationships

CoralRose

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A little backstory: I came out to my husband as poly about two years ago. We have been married five years, and though I've had a few casual relationships, I have been in a serious relationship for about five months now and put all other casual relationships aside for the time being. My husband and I have both known my current partner as a friend for many years.

We are all in our late thirties, and my husband and I have a small child together. The three of us all spend time together, and I spend 1-2 nights at my partner's house. He does not stay over at our house because of his pets.

We have been considering the idea of all sharing a home together in the future. We are not rushing into this, so I want to hear about what other polyamorous couples/vee relationships do when combining households.

My main questions/thoughts:

What is your sleeping arrangement? Do you have separate bedrooms or all share a bedroom? If your two partners each have their own bedroom, how do you split up your nights?

If you're married, how do you ensure your partner doesn't feel "left out?" Both legally (medical, etc) and emotionally?

How do you split bills?

How do you explain your living situation to your child?

Any and all insight and tips or just sharing what works for you would be appreciated!
 
I'm NOT in this situation. Knowing that, I think it's up to the dynamic of the three of you involved in your relationship...what does each of you want/need?

If it were me, I'd prefer each having their own private space. We would NEVER all sleep together. I'd be open to half of the nights with each partner (maybe, MWF and TThS) and one night (Sunday) alone. If I was the hinge, I'd probably sleep in their rooms on their nights (unless the environment made it difficult to sleep).

If money restricted the number of bedrooms, then I'd probably share the master (because it's big enough for two wardrobes) and still do the every other days, while alternating Sundays with each partner.

How do you split bills?
I add up the total income of everyone per month, then take each individual salary and divide by the total income to get a %. That % is the amount that person pays. That is the % of each bill they pay. (I pay 18% and my partner pays 82%.) This can become trickier when two people own a property and one doesn't. One way is to just charge rent, although some might find this unfair because they don't own. That's too nitpicky to me, but I get it can be important to others. Then you look into consulting an attorney to develop an LLC. But that's something other people do... I wouldn't.

To me, the people and the relationships are way more important than material equality. If a partner is so upset they can't have the marriage benefits (which can mostly be fixed with other legal means) then they aren't the right person for me. You'll have to find your own way that works for all of you.
 
A little backstory: I came out to my husband as poly about two years ago. We have been married five years, and though I've had a few casual relationships, I have been in a serious relationship for about five months now and put all other casual relationships aside for the time being. My husband and I have both known my current partner as a friend for many years.

We are all in our late thirties, and my husband and I have a small child together. The three of us all spend time together, and I spend 1-2 nights at my partner's house. He does not stay over at our house because of his pets.
That's convenient, that your friendship became a romance, so your kid was already used to this guy being around the house. It may not be necessary to explain the romantic part at all when the kid is only 8-9 years old. But once they hit the pre-teen years, they might start to ask questions.
We have been considering the idea of all sharing a home together in the future.

What is your sleeping arrangement? Do you have separate bedrooms or all share a bedroom? If your two partners each have their own bedroom, how do you split up your nights?
I am a hinge with 2 partners. Both of my partners also have one other partner each.

My gf spends Tuesday-Friday with me in our shared home. My bf spends Friday night-Sunday evening with me, although sometimes he pops over for a few hours on Monday, but doesn't spend the night. Therefore, I only ever sleep with one partner at a time. I get my free day from Sunday night-Tuesday evening. My gf is usually back here for dinner on Tuesday.

My gf spends her long weekend at her bf's house. He doesn't have any other partners.

My bf has one other partner, but she's a bit long distance, about an hour away, and she's married to a man, with their adult daughter living with them. It's a fairly new relationship (since about July, I think). They've never been able to spend the night together, as neither of them can host for that.

So, we each have our own arrangements, to give you a range of ideas.
If you're married, how do you ensure your partner doesn't feel "left out?" Both legally (medical, etc) and emotionally?
None of us are married, except for my bf's gf. So far, I think they split paying for their dates outside the home, but she often has him over for a homecooked meal with her family, and they just stay in, watch a movie, play videogames. I guess since he has to pay for his gas to get to her, a homecooked meal is a fair exchange!

Since I've been with my gf for 15 years, and my bf for 3, I considered them my spouses, even though we aren't legally married. Sometimes I wish I were married to my gf, but that wouldn't be fair to our bfs. Besides, I was married for about 30 years, and there were downsides to being married that I didn't love. I like my autonomy.

My gf and I share most of our expenses (rent, utilities, food), since we both make about the same amount of money. Her bf is much more well off than either of us, so he helps her out with major purchases, and she is very appreciative of that. My bf pays for his share of the food he eats when he's here, and I cook most of the meals (although he helps, and makes his own breakfast usually). Otherwise, he's more about the "sweat equity," doing heavy yard work, housework and repairs, which would be too much for my gf and me, so we don't have to hire handymen or yard work guys to do the jobs he's taken over! :) He also does daily jobs like dishes, carrying in groceries, laundry and vacuuming.

How do you explain your living situation to your child?
All my children were young adults when their dad and I split. (We'd been monogamous during their early childhood.) I just simply explained I was going to be dating polyamorously, and since they were raised in a progressive environment overall, they seemed to accept it okay after seeing how it was going for me. It didn't impinge on their lives too much, because they were teens/early 20s at that point, and more interested in their own lives then what choices Mom was making.

I introduced my gf to them pretty early on, and they all loved her right away. I kept any men I was dating more separate from them until I'd been dating them for a while. Then I kept their interactions fairly short.

It can be tricky to explain who this new adult is in their parents' lives to younger kids, especially if you're not "out" as poly in your community/with your extended family. We have threads on poly and kids, so you can do a search on how it has gone for many people. Generally, I have seen that it is like any time a parent divorces. Mom or Dad are going to be dating. A lot of people don't introduce a new dating partner to their young children until they've determined that that person is a "keeper," so that the kids don't start to get attached to the person, only to then lose them if it doesn't work out.
 
I live (for now, I kind of need to update my blog about this) as one "leg" of a V. (My 2nd partner doesn't live with us, though we sleep at each other's houses a couple nights a week.)

My meta went through a rather rough split with her former partner and needed a place to live / we had an extra bedroom, so she moved in back in 2019. She's decided she wants to live alone and is about to buy a house, so she'll be moving out (assuming closing goes well) in mid November. But as of right now...
What is your sleeping arrangement? Do you have separate bedrooms or all share a bedroom? If your two partners each have their own bedroom, how do you split up your nights?
We each have separate bedrooms. I very much prefer that as my husband snores! We occasionally will sleep in each others' rooms but most of the time people split off at some point in the evening to sleep by themselves. Before we converted the attic into a 4th bedroom, the default was that Knight slept with me most nights and with Joan a couple nights a week - not a hierarchy or even really a plan, just how things worked out.

If you're married, how do you ensure your partner doesn't feel "left out?" Both legally (medical, etc) and emotionally?
I can't speak for Joan on this - to some degree I think she has felt a bit left out but there's not a lot that Knight could do about it - I think the legal relationship is important as we have a kid, so there wasn't really a way to equalize that. (I don't really think he wanted to either - had it been something he felt strongly about we could have maybe figured out a way to make it work, but that wasn't the way their relationship trended.) Emotionally is easier - she and I each have our separate time with our partner, and I've tried very hard to make sure she's included on decisions that affect her / can change things about the house etc.
How do you split bills?
There's a pretty massive income and debt disparity between us, so it's equitable rather than equal. When Joan moved in, I was still freelancing so I was making approximately $0.15 for every $1 Knight made, so really the answer was "he dealt with the bills/groceries/etc, I contributed fun money or major purchases as I could." Since we were already reasonably comfortably paying those bills and the expenses didn't change THAT much for a 4th person, she floated us a few hundred a month, bought a few groceries here and there or a random thing for the house, and called it good. I was totally ok with that. I later got a job but the split really didn't change, as she and I make the same (within 15% or so) but she has pretty terrible student debt - I just didn't feel right saying she should pay more.
How do you explain your living situation to your child?
Didn't have to, really - we've been polyamorous as long as he can remember. That said, Joan is intentionally childfree and that was/is one of the biggest points of tension in the past few years - their particular flavors of neurodiversity do NOT play well together, so honestly they really don't like each other all that much and in some ways that's a good thing about her moving out, that tension will go away. I think, though, with different people that would have gone differently - my partner Artist is *also* childfree, but doesn't mind being the "cool uncle" and MiniMe likes him a lot. So.

I've told this story on the site a few times, but it bears repeating - don't expect your kid to be discreet, and if you think you can be closeted, don't move in together. It's just not fair to the kid, IMO. My *particular* child is quite perceptive and figured out that "daddy's friend" was something a bit different than other friends when he was three... he also outed us to my in-laws when he was...7, maybe? I don't feel like doing math but here's the story...
 
Hello CoralRose,

I am in a cohabiting V, I have my own bedroom with attached bath, my partner (Snowbunny) and her husband sleep in one bedroom and use the remaining bathroom. My bed is a single, I sleep by myself. Well, I sleep with our cat. This may sound like an odd arrangement but it works for us. Even though they are married, I don't feel left out as they are very nice to me, and always make me feel included. And we have POA, living wills, and whatnot. We are in our fifties and have waning interest in sex, so there are no issues in that area. We mostly pool our financial resources, and Snowbunny figures out the bills. We basically have a kitchen table setup, so if we were parallel I would imagine we would have separate domiciles. We have no kids. That's all I can think of to tell you for now, let me know if you have any more questions for me.

Regards,
Kevin T.
 
For some reason, I didn't get notifications that people had commented on this. I truly appreciate all your insight! My partner's parents and my parents are confused about our lifestyle, and it has been reassuring to tell them that other people live this way. When they say "what if someone gets hurt?" I think that's part of life, whether you're polyamorous or not.
 
For some reason, I didn't get notifications that people had commented on this. I truly appreciate all your insight! My partner's parents and my parents are confused about our lifestyle, and it has been reassuring to tell them that other people live this way. When they say "what if someone gets hurt?" I think that's part of life, whether you're polyamorous or not.
Which might indicate that polyamory isn't actually a "lifestyle" per se, since there are so many commonalities with any kind/all kinds of relationship(s). Do you or your parents actually use the word lifestyle?

(We recently had a thread about this. https://polyamory.com/threads/is-polyamory-a-lifestyle.157171/ )
 
When they say "what if someone gets hurt?" I think that's part of life, whether you're polyamorous or not.
It's amazing how parents get stuck on this. In a mono relationship I can be victimized, abused verbally, emotionally and physically. Most relationships don't work out in the long run and people get hurt all the time. Hell, I get hurt by the same parent that doesn't want me to be hurt! Being hurt is part of living and being human. I'd argue the risk is worth the potential reward whether it's friendship or more. We need human contact.

It's up to us to learn to identify unsafe people and we learn that skill by being hurt.
 
It's amazing how parents get stuck on this. In a mono relationship I can be victimized, abused verbally, emotionally and physically. Most relationships don't work out in the long run and people get hurt all the time. Hell, I get hurt by the same parent that doesn't want me to be hurt! Being hurt is part of living and being human. I'd argue the risk is worth the potential reward whether it's friendship or more. We need human contact.

It's up to us to learn to identify unsafe people and we learn that skill by being hurt.
Exactly! My mom and I are super close, but we haven't been as close since I let her know about my "new" relationship, which hurts a lot.
 
Which might indicate that polyamory isn't actually a "lifestyle" per se, since there are so many commonalities with any kind/all kinds of relationship(s). Do you or your parents actually use the word lifestyle?

(We recently had a thread about this. https://polyamory.com/threads/is-polyamory-a-lifestyle.157171/ )
I don't know that I necessarily agree with this, but it's interesting to think about. I guess if we wanted to split hairs we could call it a "relationship" lifestyle, but for the majority of the world, a romantic relationship is between two people.
 
I don't know that I necessarily agree with this, but it's interesting to think about. I guess if we wanted to split hairs we could call it a "relationship" lifestyle, but for the majority of the world, a romantic relationship is between two people.
It is for polyamorous people too. We just have more than one of them. (I’m not a poly person that believes even a closed group is “one” relationship that people can be brought into - a relationship to me is specifically how two people relate and interact, whether that is romantic/sexual/platonic/other. A group dynamic can affect all the individuals relationships within it of course… but I don’t think that makes it one relationship.
 
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