My partner is scared that I’m getting more out of polyamory

JFR

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Hello,
My partner and I are both new to polyamory. I have wanted a to be polyamory for a few years now but my partners didn’t. My current partner is totally new to polyamory.
He told me that he is scared that I am getting more out of polyamory than him. This is because I am more social than him and more comfortable with flirting. My partner is autistic and doesn’t realize when someone is flirting with them and doesn’t know how to flirt with someone else. A few days ago I went out and almost had a threesome with an other couple. We had talked about this and they told me that they were totally fine with this. They still are. But the day after they told me that they were scared that I would “get more out of polyamory than they”. I understand where they are coming from but don’t really know what to do. If anyone has been in a similar situation, what did you do? Would you do the same looking back?
 
Welcome. You didn't give genders of the people involved (if you meant to conceal gender, you slipped up a bit in the second paragraph with your first pronoun....for the rest you use 'they/them').

So, if you present as female and your partner presents as male, you will almost always get more attention than your partner. Yes, social skills will contribute to this, but they don't apply that much to dating apps (a little, AFTER the match, but not before). This is a very common problem in poly. Women can easily find partners (though finding GOOD partners is a challenge regardless of gender). Men have difficulty for reasons you can find with a bit of research (and probably just think about a bit and realize, to be honest).

I am going to give you two anecdotes of similar situations. Whether they help or not is up to you. The first is my own. My wife (cis-woman) and I (cis-man) opened our relationship about 5 years ago, at her request. Well, I was open to the idea the whole time, but I didn't push it on her. I waited until she asked. Anyway, we were both pretty busy at the time, but she actually had someone in mind. After that initial encounter, more opportunities arose simple 'in the wild' (meaning without dating apps). These were ultimately problematic and led her to use apps to find partners. Long story short, over that five year period, she's probably been with 6-8 people, sexually, and fell in love with at least one of them. That one didn't work out for reasons that are private (to her, not me). I vaguely tried to match on some dating sites, but not very hard. I got a few matches, but they went nowhere, and covid happened, and long story short, I went through all the feelings of 'she has lots of options, I have none!'.

This year, I decided to try for a change. I downloaded feeld and OKC and actually put what I wanted and made some efforts to match/talk to people. I had three dates within a month (ie. by the start of February). The first two went fine, but nothing major. The third was a love connection. Her story is next. But my point here is that my wife has 'gotten more' out of poly, if the goal is lots of partners. However, I'm the one with a second partner whom I love and is a healthier relationship than she has yet have (that's a bit unfair; some were healthy, but temporary. This one seems more likely to last the long term). I don't think these comparisons are very helpful. She's had more partners. I've had what I want. We are both good.

Flipside. My new partner has another partner. He's having a hard time with our relationship. Why? Well, from his perspective, they opened up the relationship so that they could both enjoy new sexual experiences, mostly with each other (same room, maybe some swap). My new partner didn't have a ton of experience, sexually, because she married young and then divorced. So, he saw this as a way to provide that for her while also exploring ENM himself. What he did not expect (nor did she) was for her to fall in love with someone. She's thrilled about it ("I didn't know this was even an option!"). He's less so. Again, not totally fair. He's happy for her but envious. He's probably also a bit scared that she might leave him for me (I don't want that; she doesn't want that either).

Here's the thing. When my spouse or my girlfriend (for lack of better word) open up an app like Feeld, they have 300 likes to choose from. As a man, I don't, and I'm reasonably attractive for my age (with steady finances, etc.). It's the nature of society. This gives them more options, but it also means they can be very selective. When your partner DOES find someone, they can be pretty sure that the person is into them (if they stick around, of course), because they definitely have other options.

All that said, I'm sorry this is hard for both of you in this way. Have you considered being a wing person, so to speak? My wife is happy to give me advice on dating (and my gf would be too, if I wanted to find another partner as well, but right now I'm pretty focused on my current relationships). Some people meet others as couples, and if people hit it off as pairs, that's great too! There are MANY ways to be poly.
 
I made an interesting thread about this very topic. The answers were pretty much as @Openbook23 said.

Generally speaking, partnered women found that partnered men often were in situations where the existing relationship (including explicit rules) were obstructive to forming a mutually fulfilling relationship with them.

Single women seem to say pretty much the same thing - they want more than a partnered man can give.

On the other hand, it might be the case that men, especially partnered men, are more okay with the restrictions that partnered women have, most likely because it doesn't get in the way of what they want from them. Even when they want more than just casual sex.

So what does this mean for the poly couple who genuinely both want this to work and for everyone to be happy? That they have to acknowledge gender based trends that will likely influence how each party feels about polyamory and make adjustments to counteract them.



This didn't arise in the thread, but I've also found that where there is a "dating budget" for a partnered heterosexual poly couple, it is probably more logical for the man to get a larger portion of it because women generally expect men to be able to at least fully provide for themselves for the majority of dates. And they want nice dates.
 
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Hello JFR,

Sorry your partner is kind of feeling "left out" when it comes to poly. As you are the more social/outgoing one, perhaps you could share with your partner some of your tips and tricks. He will have to venture out of his comfort zone if he wants to get more out of poly. Also it is true that males tend to have a harder time finding interested females, while females tend to have an easier time finding interested males. Of course a lot of the interested males just want a "quickie," so females have to reject a lot more of the propositions. Your partner will probably always have a "poly handicap." I guess he'll have to decide if he can live with that.

Sorry you find yourself in this predicament.
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
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Thank you for all the advice and story’s. My partner and I are probably going to read them together as well. The thread that @SEASONEDpolyAgain posted is also really great. Thank you!
 
I know a few autistic people and that there are many different levels of it.

IMHO, you and your partner should go out together to see if you can find the "other" people that you want to ... entertain with. but that said I think that you should have little signs for each other to indicate things.

For example, if you are sitting at a table and there is another woman with you and she is flirting with you both, let him know by rubbing your leg against his as a hint or something.

He may be feeling like a 3rd wheel and not see why he is even there when he can't tell that people are flirting with him too, that he is not desired, wanted, or even needed. This can lead to a lot of inner doubts and depression.

If you and the other people do end up in bed or something, maybe making him the center of attention could help.

From what I was able to get, it does sound like you are getting more of the "fun" and he feels like he's on the sidelines waiting for an injury on the field or something.

But that is just my opinion.
 
A few days ago I went out and almost had a threesome with an other couple. We had talked about this and they told me that they were totally fine with this. They still are. But the day after they told me that they were scared that I would “get more out of polyamory than they”. I understand where they are coming from but don’t really know what to do. If anyone has been in a similar situation, what did you do? Would you do the same looking back?

I'd ask for clarification first. I'm not gonna jump to conclusions or rush in to "fix" anything start spinning anxiety "what if this and that."

So I suggest you ask your partner. Maybe like...

"How am I listening? Like you wanted to air out and just express? You want suggestions to fix something? You are making a request?"

if in the moment.

Since this conversation already happened and you didn't catch it in the moment, perhaps like

"Hey. Do you remember the conversation the other day? I wanted to ask for clarification because I didn't ask how you wanted me to listen then. How DID you want me to listen? Like you wanted to air out and just express? You want suggestions to fix something? You are making a request?"

He told me that he is scared that I am getting more out of polyamory than him. This is because I am more social than him and more comfortable with flirting. My partner is autistic and doesn’t realize when someone is flirting with them and doesn’t know how to flirt with someone else.

So.... what would he like?

Short term: Just wanted to be heard and a hug because he felt scared in that moment?

Longer term: Wants to work on his social skills? Flirting skills? Do nothing different about that?
 
It's an odd coincidence that both your husband and the couple you were considering a threeway with both used the same words: "You are getting more out of polyamory than I am/we are, or I/we would."

What does this mean: "Get more out of polyamory"? I don't understand. Did your husband mean something different than the other couple did? Did you ask for more clarification (as I am)?

"What do you mean, 'get more out of poly'?" is what I'd ask.

More love? More sex? More self-growth? More fun dates?

You might also get more stress, more confusion, more rejection, a bit more fear (if you met a sketchy guy that you felt threatened by). You might feel spread thin. You might fear loss of a partner. You might get ghosted. You might have new men say anything just to get in your pants, only to disappear after they get one sex session.
 
Oh man, the level of obliviousness to flirting I could "brag" to you about. An autistic personality isn't a dating death sentence though. He will have to try harder than other people, and be wary of burnout, but that is in everything, not just romance. There are aspects to the condition that can be made into strengths though. It's a matter of finding those qualities in himself, and learning how to accentuate them. Like, he got you, so figuring out what you see in him might give him a place to start.
 
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