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anonCJ

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Hi, I am new to poly and non-monogomy and I'm trying to adjust to be okay with everything. My wife of 13 years brought up the idea of polyamory this year because she's always felt love for multiple people, even after we got married. She's never done anything, but she's had several crushes that kinda just "died on the vine." Once I knew, I couldn't not suggest that we open up the marriage and let her be herself. I didn't want to see her living her life like a caged bird, singing only for me, if she wanted to fly around.

Anyway, we opened and she had a crush and they're now dating, and everything is new and different and I'm trying to figure things out. I'm reading posts on here to try and help shift my mindset from monogamy. Any pointers are welcome.

"Love is good. More love can only be good-er, right?"
 
Hello anonCJ,

Good for you for being so supportive of your wife, it is not easy to let your partner be poly/nonmono when it wasn't your idea. You made the right decision, you are supportive of your wife in her need to be open/poly. Anything Polyamory.com can do to help, we will be happy to help. Do you have any questions? Would you want to date any outside partners, or is this strictly for your wife (mono/poly)? In any case we're here to help.

To quote Sting, "If you love someone, set them free."
Kevin T.
 
Hello anonCJ,

Good for you for being so supportive of your wife, it is not easy to let your partner be poly/nonmono when it wasn't your idea. You made the right decision, you are supportive of your wife in her need to be open/poly. Anything Polyamory.com can do to help, we will be happy to help. Do you have any questions? Would you want to date any outside partners, or is this strictly for your wife (mono/poly)? In any case we're here to help.

To quote Sting, "If you love someone, set them free."
Kevin T.
Thanks for your kind words. I don't know if I have any specific questions, I'm kinda just trying to soak it all in. The idea of dating again is equal parts exciting and terrifying. My wife said she is 100% supportive if I want to date. I just have to figure out if that's what I want. It's something that I've actively denied myself from thinking about while in a monogamous marriage for 13 years. We also have a 12 yo son who is okay with the new bf because he was a close friend before they started dating. He doesn't seem to have noticed much difference, which is wonderful! The transition was easy on him and we are so grateful. The transition was/is extremely painful and confusing for me. But I'm sticking with it!
 
Hi anonCJ,

Okay, cool. Good for you. There's no need to be in a hurry, take some time thinking about whether outside dating is for you. Take some time learning all you can about poly -- there is a lot to learn. Take some time getting acclimatized to this new and very different arrangement. It has been hard for you, but you are hanging in there, and you will get there eventually. I'm glad your son is doing well with the transition.

Kind regards,
Kevin T.
 
Hi, I am new to poly and non-monogomy and I'm trying to adjust to be okay with everything. My wife of 13 years brought up the idea of polyamory this year because she's always felt love for multiple people, even after we got married. She's never done anything, but she's had several crushes that kinda just "died on the vine." Once I knew, I couldn't not suggest that we open up the marriage and let her be herself. I didn't want to see her living her life like a caged bird, singing only for me, if she wanted to fly around.

Anyway, we opened and she had a crush and they're now dating, and everything is new and different and I'm trying to figure things out. I'm reading posts on here to try and help shift my mindset from monogamy. Any pointers are welcome.

"Love is good. More love can only be good-er, right?"
I'm glad you're reading posts here. We also have a resources list here:


Many great articles, books and a helpful podcast. Hopefully they will help ease your transition. There is a lot to learn. Most formerly mono couples take at least a year to do research before actually opening their relationship and starting to date others. I recommend you start with the book Opening Up, which is very comprehensive. I also recommend your wife does her own research. There is more to practicing polyamory successfully than just getting crushes and dating whoever you want, especially if you're already in a long-term formerly mono relationship.

Your wife is probably experiencing NRE (new relationship energy, aka infatuation) with this guy, even if they'd already been platonic friends. This can lead to "poly hell."

 
I'm glad you're reading posts here. We also have a resources list here:


Many great articles, books and a helpful podcast. Hopefully they will help ease your transition. There is a lot to learn. Most formerly mono couples take at least a year to do research before actually opening their relationship and starting to date others. I recommend you start with the book Opening Up, which is very comprehensive. I also recommend your wife does her own research. There is more to practicing polyamory successfully than just getting crushes and dating whoever you want, especially if you're already in a long-term formerly mono relationship.

Your wife is probably experiencing NRE (new relationship energy, aka infatuation) with this guy, even if they'd already been platonic friends. This can lead to "poly hell."

Thanks, I will check out your suggestions. We didn't really plan this out and now we all live together. And yes, some days have felt like hell. But I'll do more research and understand what "ploy hell" is. But for the most part we are making it work.
Thanks again for the resources and Merry Christmas!
 
We didn't really plan this out and now we all live together.
I'm confused, did your metamour move in, or is it just a figure of speech?
 
I'm confused, did your metamour move in, or is it just a figure of speech?
I met my metamour in 2023, in the last year of college. We became friends and I invited him over to hang out with my family. They all became fast friends and he visited every weekend for months.

During that time, we all talked about how nice it would be to buy a house together and pool our resources. So we started looking and planning to move in together during the summer. And then all of the stuff happened with opening the marriage, and my wife dating him, and everything. All of this just added to the desire to move in together. Then we found a perfect place. So we jumped at the chance, and it's been 5 months.

I know that sounds crazy, and I don't disagree. But there were reasons for each decision and we thought that we thought it out well enough. It has been mostly a wonderful experience. Just some situations were painful/confusing. Lots of emotions and a rough transition. They both kinda took to the lifestyle like fish to water. Not to say they didn't have difficulties, but the NRE does wonders to smooth things out. This is how it looked from the outside, at least.
 
Thanks, I will check out your suggestions. We didn't really plan this out and now we all live together. And yes, some days have felt like hell. But I'll do more research and understand what "ploy hell" is. But for the most part we are making it work.
Thanks again for the resources and Merry Christmas!
Yes, the term "poly hell" would be applicable to my experience. Just some days where the intrusion and demotion were very acute and that pain was very overwhelming.

I also came to the realization, through therapy and the book Polysecure, that I have an anxious-avoidant attachment style and that my marriage has been very codependent. I'm working on these things and making progress. I don't feel so lost anymore and don't feel unloved/unwanted.

The thing about codependency is that it is very intense when both partners are relying on solely each other for happiness and security. I know that I can't continue to live that way, but I do miss that feeling of extreme connection. It was comfortable and safe, like a little island at sea. Now I have to swim alone sometimes, but I'm able to better enjoy life on the ocean if I'm not always tethered to the island.
 
I met my metamour in 2023. We became friends and I invited him over to hang out with my family. They all became fast friends and he visited every weekend for months.
During that time we all talked about how nice it would be to buy a house together and pool our resources. So we started looking and planning to move in together during the summer... we found a perfect place, jumped at the chance, it's been 5 months.
I know that sounds crazy. But there were reasons for each decision and we thought that we thought it out well enough. It has been mostly a wonderful experience. Just some situations that were painful/confusing. Lots of emotions and a rough transition. They both kinda took to the lifestyle like fish to water. Not to say they didn't have difficulties, but the NRE does wonders to smooth things out.
Huh, this is so similar to another situation that was recently posted here that I'm guessing your wife might also be posting here.

anonCJ wrote:
The thing about codependency is that it is very intense when both partners are relying on solely each other for happiness and security. I know that I can't continue to live that way but I do miss that feeling of extreme connection. It was comfortable and safe, like a little island at sea. Now I have to swim alone sometimes, but I'm able to better enjoy life on the ocean if I'm not always tethered to the island.

That is such a beautiful sentiment!

Maybe you and your wife can work on ways to still feel extremely connected without the codependency. Like, can you feel like you're swimming together on an adventure sometimes? Or like, you can still visit your little island together sometimes?

Meanwhile, don't forget to keep working on maintaining your friendship with your metamour (independent of each of your relationships with your wife). Schedule some time to hang out as buddies like you used to.
 
Huh, this is so similar to another situation that was recently posted here that I'm guessing your wife might also be posting here?

anonCJ wrote:
The thing about codependency is that it is very intense when both partners are relying on solely each other for happiness and security. I know that I can't continue to live that way but I do miss that feeling of extreme connection. It was comfortable and safe, like a little island at sea. Now I have to swim alone sometimes, but I'm able to better enjoy life on the ocean if I'm not always tethered to the island.

That is such a beautiful sentiment!

Maybe you and your wife can work on ways to still feel extremely connected without the codependency. Like, can you feel like you're swimming together on an adventure sometimes? Or like, you can still visit your little island together sometimes?

Meanwhile, don't forget to keep working on maintaining your friendship with your metamour (independent of each of your relationships with your wife). Schedule some time to hang out as buddies like you used to.
Yeah, she recommended that I join the site but I don't know if we're not supposed to find each other on here. 🤷🏼‍♂️
We are definitely "visiting each other's island" but it is less frequent. We used to sit for hours at the end of the week to relax and vent and talk about plans and just exist together. Now we don't have as much time and so this happens less often. Which is fine, we're making it work. It's just different. At first I felt like we were drifting apart so quickly and were in danger of not having a relationship anymore. Now, after many reassurance and evidence to the contrary, I don't have that feeling.

I don't really know how to have a good relationship with my metamour. He said at the beginning that he still wanted to be best friends, but things changed and that didn't seem to be the case in action, only words. I brought it up several times and tried to address it and ask for things to change, but it hasn't or is slow going. For now I just have to think of him as a roommate. We do things together, but he doesn't really reach out to me specifically or ask about how I'm doing or want to do anything together without our hinge. I know he's still learning too and I need to be patient. So I set my expectations low to avoid some of the pain and I'll wait.
 
Yeah, she recommended that I join the site but I don't know if we're not supposed to find each other on here. 🤷🏼‍♂️
You mentioned in your opening post that your wife brought up the idea of poly. Do you know how much research she had done at that point?

How soon after that conversation did she start dating? What preparatory conversations did you have?

Do you know if she’s a member here? Or if she views you as struggling and needing support and advice?

We are definitely "visiting each other's island" but it is less frequent. We used to sit for hours at the end of the week to relax and vent and talk about plans and just exist together. Now we don't have as much time and so this happens less often. Which is fine. We're making it work. It's just different. At first I felt like we were drifting apart so quickly and were in danger of not having a relationship anymore. Now, after many reassurances and evidence to the contrary, I don't have that feeling.
IMO, the speed in which she announced her desire for poly and that of buying and moving in a new partner give zero adjustment time for all the monumental adjustments you were being hit with. If there’s a case for being overwhelmed, I’d think you’d qualify. New romantic dynamic and having to share after 13 yrs of NOT, some codependency issues as a result 13 yr history, then space invasion in living space, more sharing. All these adjustments without an operator's manual, a brave undertaking under the absolute best of conditions and people.

Are there any ideas, situations or requests in this that you said NO to?

If you’re conflict avoidant, or think being agreeable will win you points/respect/love, you’re in for a very rough ride.

Upon opening the marriage and going down the poly road did, each of you realize the old marriage was going to die and something new built from the salvage? I think a lot of newbies think it’s a simple +1 in some sort of satellite configuration to the base or primary couple. Pretty big misconception, and another big hurdle to overcome.

Have each of you mourned the old marriage?

Have you discussed the expectation of what the new marriage will look like?

I don't really know how to have a good relationship with my metamour. He said at the beginning that he still wanted to be best friends, but things changed and that didn't seem to be the case in action, only words. I brought it up several times and tried to address it and ask for things to change, but it hasn't, or is slow going. For now I just have to think of him as a roommate.
Are you mourning the loss of your best friend too?

We do things together, but he doesn't really reach out to me specifically, or ask about how I'm doing, or want to do anything together without our hinge. I know he's still learning too and I need to be patient. So I set my expectations low to avoid some of the pain, and I'll wait.
Have you read the article (or articles, if any others are out there) on detangling? Maybe you need to detangle from both of them a bit, or maybe a lot. Ideally, you’d want to start the detangling process well in front of anyone jumping into the poly pool to start a condition process to create a physical and mental break from habits and routines, to provide distance/space to allow a new romantic relationships to grow more freely without friction. I don’t think there’s a right or wrong way to detangle, and I don’t think, or, let’s say, I’ve never heard of anyone making a mistake in detangling.
 
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You mentioned in your opening post that your wife brought up the idea of poly. Do you know how much research she had done at that point ?

How soon after that conversation did she start dating, and what preparatory conversations did you have?

Do you know if she’s a member here, or if she views you as struggling and needing support and advice?

IMO, the speed in which she announced her desire for poly and that of buying and moving in a new partner give zero adjustment time for all the monumental adjustments you were being hit with. If there’s a case for being overwhelmed, I’d think you’d qualify. New romantic dynamic and having to share after 13 yrs of NOT, some codependency issues as a result 13 yr history, then space invasion in living space, more sharing. All those adjustments without an operator's manual, a brave undertaking under the absolute best of conditions and people. Is there any idea, situations or request in this that you said NO to? If you’re conflict avoidant, or think being agreeable will win you points/respect/love, you’re in for a very rough ride.

Upon opening the marriage and going down the poly road, did each of you realize the old marriage was going to die and something new built from the salvage? I think a lot of newbies think it’s simple +1 in some sort of satellite configuration to the base or primary couple. Pretty big misconception, and another big hurdle to overcome.

Have each of you mourned the old marriage?

Have you discussed the expectation of what the new marriage will look like?

Are you mourning the loss of your best friend too?

Have you have the article (or articles, if any others are out there) on detangling? Maybe you need to detangle from both of them a bit, or maybe a lot. Ideally, you’d want to start the detangling process well in front of anyone jumping in the poly pool to start a condition process, to create a physical and mental break from habits and routines, to provide distance/space to allow a new romantic relationships to grow more freely without friction.
DingedHeart, you bring up a lot of good points. I think I've gone through a lot of what you mentioned without knowing what it was that I was feeling. Only now do I realize, after reading your descriptions, that I have been mourning a lot of things.

We did some research, but not enough. We did talk about things, but not enough. We did mourn, but I don't think we ever really said out loud that our old relationship was ending and a new one beginning from the salvage.

It makes me feel better knowing that I was going through a process that is documented or at least known about. I thought for a long time that I was just being a crybaby. 😆

The transition has been painful, but I think I've mourned and adjusted my mindset and expectations so that I'm in a good place now. I am happy with how things are going and I think so is everyone in the triad. I'm continuing to read and learn, so hopefully I'll be better prepared for new stuff that comes up. I'm hopeful for the new year!
 
Here is the article on detangling that dingedheart was referring to:
Thank you! I did read this one and it helped tremendously! I did not realize how tangled up I was. 13 years of a codependent relationship cannot be detangled just by saying "we're open now!" 😆 So I'm doing the work and it is helping the triad situation become easier.
Here is our list of poly resources that you can browse to get info on any area in poly you are confused about. There are books, articles and a podcast.
I am working my way through the list. I'm so glad that it exists! This site and everyone on here has helped me a ton! I am very grateful ❤️
 
Thank you! I did read this one and it helped tremendously! I did not realize how tangled up I was. 13 years of a codependent relationship cannot be detangled just by saying "we're open now!" 😆
Most newbies don’t think they need to detangle anything that is adding to the existing, instead of starting from scratch building something new.
So I'm doing the work and it is helping the triad situation become easier.
This could be a slight vocabulary misunderstanding, but triad in the poly world means all 3 are romantically and sexually involved. I think you’re in a V.
I am working my way through the list. I'm so glad that it exists! This site and everyone on here has helped me a ton! I am very grateful ❤️
Have you passed on this reading list to your wife and BF/roommate?
 
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