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Janechasingjoy

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I am 43f, my husband is 39m, we have 3 kids together and have been married 16 years. He told me 2 weeks ago that he is poly. I have been trying to wrap my brain around it all.

We are looking at opening up our marriage (I am pretty sure I will stay mono) in a few weeks after we process this together.

I don't want to lose him and all we have built together. But I am not sure that I can make this work.
 
Hello, and welcome to the forums - I'm sure that Kevin will be by to give you some helpful links to get started.

Your husband just told you two weeks ago that he is poly? After 16 years of marriage and 3 kids? And you are looking to open your marriage in a few weeks after you process it "together"?

I think that he has probably been "processing" this a lot longer than a few weeks and that it will take you a lot longer that a few weeks to catch up with his processing. Every situation is different but ...has this ever even been brought up before? It is often said here that a YEAR of "processing" would not be unusual.

I would be very certain to leave your options open when it comes to you remaining mono...especially if you have only recently been exposed to the idea of poly. After over 7.5 years participating on this site (and over 30 years identifying as poly), my observation is that many (but by no means all) that do the work to accept a poly partner at some point decide that they would like to explore the "poly option" for themselves - and the partner that originally brought it up does not cope with that well, at all.
 
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I know, it all seems and sounds so intense. Two weeks ago was not the first ime my husband had spoken about this, and when he could identify and name his orientation, all the pieces fit together over the last several years.

I will look forward to the links and thank you for the welcome! I really appreciate your advice concerning leaving options open.

I have been absolutely obsessed with all things poly as I have been grappling with what this is and what this means for me and my marriage. I don't know if I mentioned that we met when we were both very active in an ultra conservative religion all those years ago, (he left 5 years into marriage, I did just earlier this year) so I am working through that aspect as well.

I want to try and see if both my husband and I can be happy with him active in this orientation. If not, then we will have to make adjustments until we both are.
 
Hi Janechasingjoy - and welcome to the Forum! We have a good number of experienced poly folks here so please free to post any thoughts and questions that you may have.

Here's a link to a list that I put together of some of the best poly web sites that you might find helpful in learning more about polyamory:

http://www.polyamory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108191

Also many of us here recommend Opening Up: A Guide to Creating and Sustaining Open Relationships by Tristan Taormino as the best introductory book for poly. (Available in hard copy or digital at Amazon et al).

He told me 2 weeks ago that he is poly.

There is a strong argument to be made - and many believe - that the capacity to "be poly" is the part of the human condition. And rather than being an orientation (as with a sexual orientation), it is a more of a lifestyle choice as to whether to practice mono or poly - a decision based on a preference that is heavily influenced by religious and cultural conditioning. Almost everyone experiences romantic feelings - or at least romantic/sexual attraction - to more than one person simultaneously at some point in their life. The key issue is whether we act on those feelings or not. Those who do so in an ethical manner are practicing polyamory - often defined as "multiple loving romantic/sexual relationships with the knowledge and consent of all involved" (doing so unethically is usually just called "cheating"). The scientific basis for this is discussed in Sex at Dawn by Christopher Ryan. (An informative and engaging read if the the topic is of interest to you).

And JaneQSmythe wrote:
I would be very certain to leave your options open when it comes to you remaining mono...especially if you have only recently been exposed to the idea of poly. After over 7.5 years participating on this site (and over 30 years identifying as poly), my observation is that many (but by no means all) that do the work to accept a poly partner at some point decide that they would like to explore the "poly option" for themselves - and the partner that originally brought it up does not cope with that well, at all.

Really - really - good advice. And I would be one of those who Jane is referring to. When my wife approached me three years ago about opening our marriage so she could ethically explore her resurgent feelings for an old college boyfriend, I eventually agreed - purely altruistically, with the thought that "well poly would sure would not be my first choice but I can probably adapt - but it is very unlikely that I will ever have another partner". (Full story is signature link below). But things evolved - my wife's boyfriend now lives with us in a very kitchen table poly situation, and I have two partners as well, one long distance that I see a couple of times a years (but text/talk daily), and a local partner that I see two or three times a month - and who sometimes joins the rest of us for dinner or an evening at our house. Definitely do not discount the value of having your own partners if you decide to grant your husband's request to alter your marital contract to allow for polyamory (Obviously you can refuse, and then he will have to make some choices). Many who open their marriage, for all to obvious reasons, find it much easier to accept their spouses having a partner if they have their own.
(And, as JaneQ pointed out - the spouse who wanted to open the marriage so they could have other partners often struggles mightily to accept their spouse also having other partners. My wife definitely did, all the while admitting that it was illogical and hypocritical to do so - but she also did the processing work and eventually came to terms with it).

Just a few thoughts. And again - welcome to the Forum!

Al
 
I am 43f, my husband is 39m, we have 3 kids together and have been married 16 years. He told me 2 weeks ago that he is poly. I have been trying to wrap my brain around it all.

We are looking at opening up our marriage (I am pretty sure I will stay mono) in a few weeks after we process this together.

I don't want to lose him and all we have built together. But I am not sure that I can make this work.

And you may not be able to make it work and that's okay. I've never been in your situation so I can't give you very good advice. However, I have been in your husband's situation. I would tell him to be aware he is asking a lot from his partner. He should be aware that you might end up not being okay with this. He shouldn't think of this as a license to do whatever he wants while disregarding your feelings.

I do wish you both the best of luck.
 
I know, it all seems and sounds so intense. Two weeks ago was not the first time my husband had spoken about this, When he could identify and name his orientation, all the pieces fit together over the last several years.

I will look forward to the links. Thank you for the welcome! I really appreciate your advice concerning leaving options open.

I have been absolutely obsessed with all things poly, as I have been grappling with what this is, and what this means for me and my marriage. I don't know if I mentioned that we met when we were both very active in an ultra conservative religion all those years ago (he left 5 years into marriage, I did just earlier this year), so I am working through that aspect as well.

I want to try and see if both my husband and I can be happy with him active in this orientation. If not, then we will have to make adjustments until we both are.

I won't repeat what others have said. It's all good advice. I wanted to comment on the religion part. I imagine that you staying involved long after he did was a struggle, made a distance between you! Why did you finally leave too? Have you made a successful adjustment to leaving that structure and the tenets of that kind of religion? Have you found a new type of Christianity (or whatever religion it was), or left behind that kind of thing and sought a completely different kind of belief, like Buddhism, Hinduism, paganism or atheism?

I am wondering also if your children were thoroughly brainwashed into conservative (religion) with its inherent misogyny, sex shaming, etc. How are they doing? Would they be aware of Dad being out there seeking a new gf?

This reminds me of a recent experience I had. I dated a great guy earlier this year who was raised a staunch Catholic, then converted to an evangelical church in college. He met and married a woman from this religion. They used to proseletize and go on missions to spread the word. They raised 2 daughters in this church.

Big Guy really wanted to help people. He felt that the church was a healthy, warm and life supporting place to be. He was outgoing. He was caring. But he struggled. Because of his big heart and love for people, he would often be attracted to women. He even cheated on his wife several times. Finally, he left the church, and her, when he realized how split in half he felt.

His ex wife and their 2 young teen daughters have not left the church, and bitterly resent him, and his new wife, and her 2 sons from a previous marriage. Big Guy and his new wife both have the freedom to see others; they married as poly individuals. I met him, thought he was awesome and super attractive, and we dated a few months, but then his wife got pregnant and I just realized he didn't have time for me. I felt his big love and limited time should go to his new wife and kids, and especially to the newborn, not to me. He wanted to keep trying, but I didn't feel right. We remain friends.

So. That's one story of the church and poly.

Modern polyamory is feminist based. Men have always had more freedom to have several female partners at once. It's part of the power imbalance of the 3000 year old patriarchy. In polyamory, we women (because of modern birth control, and higher wages, mostly) are claiming our right to have multiple loving sexual partnerships as well. Traditional marriage is highly based on the economic exchange of a wife birthing kids and keeping house, in exchange for financial support from the husband. Men have always had the option of having more women, more or less discreetly. He could even have societally sanctioned multiple wives, and openly have concubines as well (sex slaves).

Now we are making a huge step in a new direction. We are pioneers. People attempt to slut shame us poly women. People think poly women are "easy" and will fuck anyone indiscriminately. Usually people misunderstand poly and imagine it as threesomes, 2 women and one man, in stereotypical patriarchal fashion. Or they think it's swinging. It is not that. At all.

Since Abrahamic religions are based on the patriarchy (you could say they were invented to keep women in submission to men) as we practice polyamory, we continue to loosen the bonds that hold us to many of the belief systems inherent in orthodox Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Women are seen as evil temptresses of men in these religions, stemming back to Eden, in the very beginning. Greek religion, just as ancient, also had its Pandora, who brought evil to the world. You need to go back to ancient Celtic and Nordic religions in the north, and ancient Egyptian and Babylonian religion in the middle east/Africa, to find religions that held on to the idea that women (such as the goddesses Isis, Ishtar, etc.) are men's equals.
 
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Thank you so much

I really appreciate your all's time in responding and sharing words of wisdom. I will leave my options open and we will see how this goes. I can see how critically important communication is within my marrige first, but also look forward to communicating on this forum more. Thank you!
 
Greetings Janechasingjoy,
Welcome to our forum. Please feel free to lurk, browse, etc.
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Also if you'll just explore the forum in general, you can learn more about polyamory in general, and it can become more familiar to you. Let us know if you have any questions!

Sincerely,
Kevin T., "official greeter" :)

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And you may not be able to make it work and that's okay. …

I would tell him to be aware he is asking a lot from his partner. He should be aware that you might end up not being okay with this. He shouldn't think of this as a license to do whatever he wants while disregarding your feelings.

Some good advice here. He declares he's 'poly.' What does this mean? That he desires sex with other women? That he gets infatuated with other women? And this means what exactly?

I've been on this forum for nearly 8 years now. I'm still not clear why "I'm attracted to others" is unique in the human experience. Most people, sooner or later, are attracted to someone other than their spouse. This is hardly unique.

This does not entitle or require him to sleep with other women. His feelings are just that...feelings. It's not going to fall off if he doesn't use it with other women.

What happens to you, and perhaps more importantly to your children, if this goes bad?

Just because he wants to get hot and heavy with other women does not give him license to ignore you or your feelings. You have the right for this to be a joint decision, not "I said I'm poly therefore you have to let me screw other women."
 
He told me 2 weeks ago that he is poly.
I want to try and see if both my husband and I can be happy with him active in this orientation.

As A199 said, polyamory is not exactly an orientation like being gay. It's not the same situation as a husband coming to a wife and announcing his homosexuality to which she somehow must acclimate. Since it's the norm to feel attraction for more than one at times, even love for more than one at times, poly is the exceptional choice to consensually act upon those feelings. The feelings do not make a person poly and having the feelings does not mean that a partner must ipso facto accommodate additional partners. I press the point because you seem to be assuming an additional pressure of biological imperative along with your husband's newly revealed preferences.
 
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