Spork
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I can't shake this notion that he'd put giant, gaudy gold letter "T"s all over our national monuments. And possibly start watering crops with sports drinks...
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I can't shake this notion that he'd put giant, gaudy gold letter "T"s all over our national monuments. And possibly start watering crops with sports drinks...
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I can readily think of worse tickets than Clinton/Sanders.
Would beat hell out of Al Gore being paired with Joe Lieberman, that smirking DINO weasel. I almost literally had to hold my nose (barf-bag at ready) to make THAT vote.
He turned out to be one of GWB's staunchest supporters. And it didn't stop there.
I will gladly support Clinton UNLESS she whores the ticket out like that.
Would beat hell out of Al Gore being paired with Joe Lieberman, that smirking DINO weasel. I almost literally had to hold my nose (barf-bag at ready) to make THAT vote.
He turned out to be one of GWB's staunchest supporters. And it didn't stop there.
Near the end of Lieberman's Senate tenure, Connecticut Democrats gave him a 44% approval rating... compared to 66% from Republicans.
I will gladly support Clinton UNLESS she whores the ticket out like that.
River
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I could never vote for Hillary. Only maybe could I be bothered to vote against Trump by voting at all.
And I don't give a shit about what Hillary SAYS she will do as president. She's even less likely to do what she SAYS she will do as president than Obama was (known now in retrospect, of course).
Where is the No Confidence vote button we all so desperately deserve?
FallenAngelina
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From March 25:
Bernie is not getting anywhere near that White House, in any capacity. Neither is Donald Trump.
Bernie is not getting anywhere near that White House, in any capacity. Neither is Donald Trump.
Paraphrase: I love Hillary.
Bernie is not getting anywhere near that White House, in any capacity. Neither is Donald Trump.
You're proud of this prediction? Ugh.
Spork
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I've read too much about Hillary having seriously bad ethics to really support her, but I would prefer her over Trump.
But...
I would prefer over Trump:
-Bernie
-John McAfee
-Hillary
-Almost anyone
-A styrofoam cup with a face drawn on it
-A tree sloth
-Vermin Supreme
-The mummified corpse of Ronald Reagan
-Two white mice who secretly run the whole thing
-The bird that landed on Bernie's podium
-Very small rocks
-Canada (working in shifts)
-A taco bowl prepared anywhere but the Trump Grill in Trump Towers
-Trump's hairpiece, sans actual Trump
-A small venomous lizard
-Al Gore (I think he just needs friends.)
-ManBearPig
...you get the idea.
But...
I would prefer over Trump:
-Bernie
-John McAfee
-Hillary
-Almost anyone
-A styrofoam cup with a face drawn on it
-A tree sloth
-Vermin Supreme
-The mummified corpse of Ronald Reagan
-Two white mice who secretly run the whole thing
-The bird that landed on Bernie's podium
-Very small rocks
-Canada (working in shifts)
-A taco bowl prepared anywhere but the Trump Grill in Trump Towers
-Trump's hairpiece, sans actual Trump
-A small venomous lizard
-Al Gore (I think he just needs friends.)
-ManBearPig
...you get the idea.
FallenAngelina
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Spork
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kdt26417-- Thanks.
I'm gonna switch over to one of the other Great Controversies for a moment.
I was just in a facebook group about polyamory, where a young man posted that because his greatest turn on is getting his partner off, yet alas he is "cursed" with circumcision, he wants ideas on how to improve his stamina.
Hoo boy.
Well of course we got the anti-circ activists in there...but I felt that was a bit beside the point. My own reaction was more along the lines of, "THIS again??"
And that reaction had nothing to do with his circ status. Had everything to do with:
-If I last longer, she'll get off more.
-Partner getting off is all about my D.
-Partner getting off is all about my ego.
Etc.
Ya know... In my life, I had 33 young guys before my x-hubs. They all thought more or less like that, they would "do their thing" and assume I got what I needed out of it. Let me say that I did not, and hurt feelings would ensue...but they didn't know what to do other than to "bang away at it longer!" No thank you.
Then x-hubs. With him I finally learned/realized that my satisfaction was my own to make happen, and if I wasn't just getting there from anything he was doing, well, I was certainly welcome to help out. And I did. And the "finishes" that resulted were fleeting, fluttery, and not really that satisfying. But at least they happened.
Then the men AFTER. Oh. My. God. My climaxes went from being like a little butterfly fluttering by, landing for a moment and then fluttering elusively off...to those massive Japanese drums pounding through my entire body. And I'm still learning new ways that I can be pleased, wow wow wow. I used to think that no partner could MAKE ME finish...now I know they can. If they know what they're doing. And they had better know that it's not really about their D.
In fact it just isn't, really, at all. Except insofar as enjoying partner pleasure is part of enjoying the overall experience for me. But when it comes to mine...yeah, it doesn't matter the size and it doesn't matter the stamina. Because a partner had better bring more than that to the bedroom.
Anyhow, after responding several times along these lines, I finally got that young fella to admit that he wanted to improve his stamina for HIMSELF and not in fact for his partners. I call that progress.
And people wonder why I like older men...eesh...
/end rant
I'm gonna switch over to one of the other Great Controversies for a moment.
I was just in a facebook group about polyamory, where a young man posted that because his greatest turn on is getting his partner off, yet alas he is "cursed" with circumcision, he wants ideas on how to improve his stamina.
Hoo boy.
Well of course we got the anti-circ activists in there...but I felt that was a bit beside the point. My own reaction was more along the lines of, "THIS again??"
And that reaction had nothing to do with his circ status. Had everything to do with:
-If I last longer, she'll get off more.
-Partner getting off is all about my D.
-Partner getting off is all about my ego.
Etc.
Ya know... In my life, I had 33 young guys before my x-hubs. They all thought more or less like that, they would "do their thing" and assume I got what I needed out of it. Let me say that I did not, and hurt feelings would ensue...but they didn't know what to do other than to "bang away at it longer!" No thank you.
Then x-hubs. With him I finally learned/realized that my satisfaction was my own to make happen, and if I wasn't just getting there from anything he was doing, well, I was certainly welcome to help out. And I did. And the "finishes" that resulted were fleeting, fluttery, and not really that satisfying. But at least they happened.
Then the men AFTER. Oh. My. God. My climaxes went from being like a little butterfly fluttering by, landing for a moment and then fluttering elusively off...to those massive Japanese drums pounding through my entire body. And I'm still learning new ways that I can be pleased, wow wow wow. I used to think that no partner could MAKE ME finish...now I know they can. If they know what they're doing. And they had better know that it's not really about their D.
In fact it just isn't, really, at all. Except insofar as enjoying partner pleasure is part of enjoying the overall experience for me. But when it comes to mine...yeah, it doesn't matter the size and it doesn't matter the stamina. Because a partner had better bring more than that to the bedroom.
Anyhow, after responding several times along these lines, I finally got that young fella to admit that he wanted to improve his stamina for HIMSELF and not in fact for his partners. I call that progress.
And people wonder why I like older men...eesh...
/end rant
In sex, a significant percentage of me hopes that she'll get off, but even that percentage is selfish; I want to feel like I did my part. The rest hopes that I'll get off, though perhaps that's also partly from wanting to do my part.
You all understood that, right?
You all understood that, right?
Spork
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In sex, a significant percentage of me hopes that she'll get off, but even that percentage is selfish; I want to feel like I did my part. The rest hopes that I'll get off, though perhaps that's also partly from wanting to do my part.
You all understood that, right?
I think so.
Personally I just get annoyed with the concept as sex as this "performance" with male partners being so insecure that they will step up and do a good job of it...yet if that is the real aim, most of these aren't taking the time to learn their partners or even do some basic research to understand women.
I can enjoy a man who is not obsessed (in a fragile ego sense) with whether I got off, but just gets in there and has a good time. If need be, I'll tend to my own self and it's not really a big deal.
I can enjoy (actually more accurate: I am enjoying, as this is Zen all over again) a partner who knows he might not get his, but he is very interested in pleasing me, and is really, really good at doing so. As long as he genuinely enjoys doing what he's doing, even if his body won't let him finish, then hey...that's alright.
Thing is, I don't like sex as this high pressure, ego-centric thing. I want it to be FUN. If we can laugh in bed, that's fantastic! If we can get messy and not feel self conscious about it, if we can love one another and see beauty in one another, and not worry about our own faults, if we fully accept and embrace everything that our partner is and revel in it, in those moments...that is the experience I'm there for.
I'm not looking for a peacock to impress me, I'm seeking to be with another human being! And I wish people wouldn't be so critical of themselves.
I also think that unfortunately, some of this is a man's attempt to take control of something that cannot be easily controlled...there is that "spark", that chaos factor...something so utterly intangible that it's hard to explain to men...as to whether a woman is going to want you, or want to continue having you. I had one partner, I found him attractive, I liked his personality, and he was good in bed. I went there once, and never wanted to again. I felt like he wasn't a good match for me, and I can't really pin down just why. There was not a single thing he could have done to change that outcome. Dischordant notes, energy out of synch, I can put it half a dozen ways, but I can't explain just what was wrong exactly. I wonder if this is my subconscious mind reacting to a bad histocompatibility detection via smell or taste, as they showed in some of those sex studies. I have no idea. I'm glad he's still a friend though.
River
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River
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kdt26417-- Thanks.
Then the men AFTER. Oh. My. God. My climaxes went from being like a little butterfly fluttering by, landing for a moment and then fluttering elusively off...to those massive Japanese drums pounding through my entire body.
Like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fahIzdxyZY
Nice outfit he's wearing, by the way. I think I'd let him pound on my drum -- if he's as nice a guy as he seems to be.
River
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Okay, since we're talking about sex, and "getting off" ... and men, along with their associated shortcomings, maturity level, etc.... Here goes. What really, really turns me on in a man is his heart, his ability to convey, share, experience real affection and tenderness before, during and after the pounding of the massive Japanese drum. If he doesn't like me a lot..., if we both don't like one another a lot, it will not be a massive Japanese drum. It will be something more on this scale.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykEd9YUsjgQ
... or maybe this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj5TZFHBn3o
Oh, and the same goes for women.
A midsized drum is acceptable, and sometimes maybe even a tiny drum. But for getting ones rocks entirely off I'll be needing profound mutual affection.
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Neither of the mini-drum players ever show their faces. Let us take this as an analogue and a metaphor precisely conveying the spirit of my post.
... or maybe this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj5TZFHBn3o
Oh, and the same goes for women.
A midsized drum is acceptable, and sometimes maybe even a tiny drum. But for getting ones rocks entirely off I'll be needing profound mutual affection.
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Neither of the mini-drum players ever show their faces. Let us take this as an analogue and a metaphor precisely conveying the spirit of my post.
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