Mono anchor partner + poly partners

Kynde

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I am a regular here. I am an experienced poly woman, but I have no experience with this situation. Seeking advice.

Background: I dated Jay for several months before we broke up about 1.5 years ago. He knew I was poly, but at that time I dated him I did not have other partners and was not looking. I was fresh out of a divorce. The relationship was easy and natural until we both triggered each other's past traumas and I did a cut and run.

I now have two stable partners but neither are available to be a full-time NP/anchor/primary.

Jay and I both have had therapy since then. We reconnected about a month ago. It's been easy again, and I can tell we are both in a better place. We both want long term. We live close to each other and spend a lot of time together when he's not working (he works 24 hour shifts), days and nights.

Here's the issue--- he's monogamous. He doesn't understand poly. But he's been very understanding that I am poly, and I have other partners and don't plan to break up with them. Whereas before I was just with him, now I have these partners. He doesn't want to hear about them. He knows their names, and he trusts that I'm safe, but he doesn't want to know any details beyond I'm "busy" on certain nights. I am not used to this style at all. I like KTP, or at least garden-party poly. Both of my poly partners have met each other. I have never had this kind of don't ask don't tell relationship before.

To accommodate Jay's feelings, I schedule most of my time with the partners on the days that Jay is working. There are times he's not working and I will tell him I'm "busy," and he's okay with this. He stays home, or goes out with friends.

I have created two spaces in my home for partners-- the master bedroom is for me and Jay, the guest bedroom is for my other partners. He never asked me to do this, but I sensed he would like it, and he said thank you when I told him. (Besides, I don't have to change the sheets as often!)

He does not seem jealous. He says he feels very secure as the anchor/primary partner, but wants to just make it about us when we are together.

Jumping way ahead---- if Jay and I someday share a home together, how do we make that more comfortable for us all? What are things that are reasonable for him to ask for, and what are things that are reasonable for me to be able to do? Examples-- given that he doesn't want to know about my partners in detail or meet them, is it fair that I would be able to host partners in the guest room, even if he's home sometimes, since that was my lifestyle before we met? Or, do I have a duty to make him feel "safe" in his own space/home? I want to continue to be poly, and not tiptoe around my lifestyle, but at the same time, be considerate of my partner, who is not poly. What is a good balance?

From those who have been in similar situations, what are some ways I can be a good hinge for all involved? What are some other issues that may arise, and how did you deal with those issues in your own situations?
 
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Going from KTP to DADT is polyamory on the opposite ends of the spectrum.
You will have to edit your speech and behaviour in your own home when you will be living together in the future. Yes, it works now because you have each your own home I assume? But when you will be living together it might feel very "cagey."

Maybe other members have a different view, but personally I don't see that working out when living in the same space together.
 
Going from KTP to DADT is polyamory on the opposite ends of the spectrum.
You will have to edit your speech and behaviour in your own home when you will be living together in the future. Yes, it works now because you have each your own home I assume? But when you will be living together it might feel very "cagey."

Maybe other members have a different view, but personally I don't see that working out when living in the same space together.
Yes we both have our own homes and live close to each other. I don't plan to share a home with him full time for quite awhile. . . we are making sure we work long term first. And maybe it will just have to be that we have separate homes long term. I'm okay with that too.

We were talking last time that it would be economical to share a home, but we are both stable and can afford separate homes if needed.
 
Yes we both have our own homes and live close to each other. I don't plan to share a home with him full time for quite awhile. . . we are making sure we work long term first. And maybe it will just have to be that we have separate homes long term. I'm okay with that too.
If you are planning to do long-term separate homes, it will work out better, but the logistics are still complicated.
What if you are with one of your other two stable partners? You mentioned they have their own room there? Jay is your primary. What if there is an emergency when one of your other partners are there, and Jay needs to be in your home somehow. You're going to forsake the other partners and kick them out if Jay needs you (as seen he lives closeby)? If he doesn't want to hear about them, he definitely doesn't want to see them.
 
If you are planning to do long-term separate homes, it will work out better, but the logistics are still complicated.
What if you are with one of your other two stable partners? You mentioned they have their own room there? Jay is your primary. What if there is an emergency when one of your other partners are there, and Jay needs to be in your home somehow. You're going to forsake the other partners and kick them out if Jay needs you (as seen he lives closeby)? If he doesn't want to hear about them, he definitely doesn't want to see them.
No one has veto power over my partners or my decisions to spend time with them. That would not be ethical. I value and love all my partners. No one would be kicked out. Jay would just have to accomodate. It's my home. Jay can stay with friends, a hotel, or just stay in the home and maybe meet them? I told Jay when we got back together that these partners were important to me, I was not breaking up with them, and he would have to be okay with me having other partners. He agreed to this. His choice to stay or not stay. I hope he does, but I won't compromise my relationships with my other two partners who have been there for me, one of them goes back 8 years on and off.

I was asking for advice on how to make this smoother for everyone, and asking for experiences of people who have done similar.
 
Would you trust the mono guy to contact your other partners in event of you having a health emergency or accident, and you couldn't make the call?
Would you trust the mono guy, if you end up in a primary relationship with him, to welcome your other partners to speak at your funeral, or even attend it?

No?

Ditch the mono guy.
 
Would you trust the mono guy to contact your other partners in event of you having a health emergency or accident, and you couldn't make the call?
Would you trust the mono guy, if you end up in a primary relationship with him, to welcome your other partners to speak at your funeral, or even attend it?

No?

Ditch the mono guy.
Yes I would absolutely trust him to do that. Great questions
 
Hi Kynde,

That sounds hard, to have a DADT relationship where you want a KTP. You said you and Jay are at a better place than you were the first time around, so maybe that will help. It's good that he respects the fact that you are poly, even if he doesn't understand poly per se. And maybe it helps a little that you have a safe space here to vent. Keep trying to work things out with Jay, I think it is hopeful that you will be able to reach a new normal with him.

If Jay wants to share a home with you someday, I trust that he will be able to understand that there will be times when you will host your other partners at said home, and that you can't guarantee there won't be times when he will run into said partners, or be able to hear them in the next room. You are poly. I trust that he respects that, and that he knows your other relationships won't always be airtight. This understanding is only reasonable.

Regards,
Kevin T.
 
Hi Kynde,

That sounds hard, to have a DADT relationship where you want a KTP. You said you and Jay are at a better place than you were the first time around, so maybe that will help. It's good that he respects the fact that you are poly, even if he doesn't understand poly per se. And maybe it helps a little that you have a safe space here to vent. Keep trying to work things out with Jay, I think it is hopeful that you will be able to reach a new normal with him.

If Jay wants to share a home with you someday, I trust that he will be able to understand that there will be times when you will host your other partners at said home, and that you can't guarantee there won't be times when he will run into said partners, or be able to hear them in the next room. You are poly. I trust that he respects that, and that he knows your other relationships won't always be airtight. This understanding is only reasonable.

Regards,
Kevin T.
You always have such nice supportive answers 🙂
He said he.doesnt understand poly but he is supportive of me being poly.
 
We can have our ideal relationship structure in our minds, in your case, kitchen-table poly, but then life brings certain people our way that we fall deeply in love with, who don't share aspects of our ideal-- prefer close to DADT, parallel poly, or garden party.

My partner Pixi's partner Malachi wanted extremely parallel poly. We didn't really meet each other for 7 years. We just met at the door twice when he came to get something she needed while visiting him. He lives right in the next town too! He is very introverted. She was his first serious partner. He likes being in a mono/poly relationship, because it gives him more time to himself.

But at 7 years in, circumstances (her dog dying in our home, then the pandemic) brought us closer together, and now we see each other fairly often!

So, my point is, don't look TOO far ahead. Jay might get over the near DADT paradigm and end up okay with parallel, GPP or even KTP someday!
 
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The simple solution is to maintain separate residences.

I have two mono husbands who have no interest in cohabitation with each other. I split my time between the homes I own with both.

They both know each other, but would rather have a parallel existence, instead of KTP. It has worked just fine for 13 years.
 
Who needs the nesting/anchor/primary partner status thing, you or Jay? What’s it get anyone besides a title and more entanglement?
 
Who needs the nesting/anchor/primary partner status thing, you or Jay? What’s it get anyone besides a title and more entanglement?
No one needs it, but we both desire it. It would be more economical as well, although each of us can afford to live on our own. He could get extra income by renting his place, and would contribute towards the household expenses at my place. And, there is something to be said for being a team when the toilet needs repairing, etc.

I will never get married again. And if anyone moves into my home (partner or otherwise) there will be a rental agreement in place to protect us both, in case of parting ways. I had the unfortunate experience of having a friend move in after my divorce to be a housemate and help out with my kiddo and expenses, and it was a nightmare. I'm soooo glad I had a month-to-month contract with her and was able to ask her to leave!

I have lived with partners before, and it's wonderful when everyone is getting along. But definitely taking it slow, at least a year of dating before we decide to make a move.
 
I dated Jay for several months before we broke up about 1.5 years ago. He knew I was poly, but at that time I dated him I did not have other partners and was not looking. I was fresh out of a divorce. The relationship was easy and natural until we both triggered eachother's past traumas and I did a cut and run.

I now have two stable partners but both are not available to be full time NP/anchor/primary. Jay and I both have had therapy since then and reconnected about a month ago. It's been easy again, and I can tell we are both in a better place. We both want long term. We live close to each other and spend a lot of time together when he's not working (he works 24 hour shifts), days and nights.

Here's the issue--- he's monogamous. He doesn't understand poly but he's been very understanding that I am poly, and I have other partners and don't plan to break up with them. Whereas before I was just with him, now I have these partners. He doesn't want to hear about them. He knows their names, and he trusts that I'm safe, but he doesn't want to know any details beyond I'm "busy" on certain nights. I am not used to this style at all. I like KTP or at least garden party poly. Both of my poly partners have met each other. I have never had this kind of don't ask don't tell relationship before.

To accommodate Jay's feelings I schedule most of my time with the partners on the days that Jay is working. There are times he's not working and I will tell him I'm "busy" and he's okay with this. He stays at his home or goes out with friends. I also have created two spaces in my home for partners--- the master bedroom is for me and Jay, the guest bedroom is for my other partners. He never asked me to do this but I sensed he would like it, and he said thank you when I told him. (besides I won't have to change the sheets as often!) He does not seem jealous. He says he feels very secure as the achor/primary partner, but wants to just make it about us when we are together.

Jumping way ahead---- if Jay and I someday share a home together, how do we make that more comfortable for us all? What are things that are reasonable for him to ask for, and what are things that are reasonable for me to be able to do? Examples-- given that he doesn't want to know about my partners in detail or meet them, is it fair that I would be able to host partners in the guest room, even if he's home sometimes? Since that was my lifestyle before we met? Or, do I have a duty to make him feel "safe" in his own space/home? I want to continue to be poly and not tiptoe around my lifestyle but at the same time be considerate of my partner who is not poly. What is a good balance?

From those who have been in similar situations, what are some ways I can be a good hinge for all involved? What are some other issues that may arise, and how did you deal with those issues in your own situations?
I would go slow and see if things change over time. My life partner, for the first year we were together, did not want to meet my other partners. He felt much discomfort thinking about it. One day we had to go by my place and he met my nesting partner. Afterwards, he looked at me and said "I have no idea why I was so scared to do that, but I'm glad I did. It was nothing like I thought it would be." Over time, they saw each other more frequently, organized a birthday dinner for me. My home is now my life partner's second home.

I wouldn't fret about the future. When living together becomes an option, discuss with him what he needs, what you need, and how you can work together to make that happen. If you can't agree, then maybe it's okay to live apart.

I don't live with my life partner. We want to, but circumstances are preventing us for now, and we are okay with it. We still see each other almost daily and are very happy in our partnership. We frequently talk and think about our future together, so when it happens we will already have things worked out.
 
No one needs it, but we both desire it.
I was thinking a mono guy might want or need this escalation for emotional security.

It would be more economical as well, although each of us can afford to live on our own. He could get extra income by renting his place, and would contribute towards the household expenses at my place. And, there is something to be said for being a team when the toilet needs repairing, etc.
Yup, I definitely understand the financial or economics of that.

HA 🤣 Toilet repair has never been a “team activity,” in my experience. It's "Hey, there’s an issue in x bathroom's toilet. Thanks." But I get your point.

I will never get married again. And if anyone moves into my home (partner or otherwise) there will be a rental agreement in place to protect us both, in case of parting ways. I had the unfortunate experience of having a friend move in after my divorce to be a housemate and help out with my kiddo and expenses, and it was a nightmare. I'm soooo glad I had a month-to-month contract with her and was able to ask her to leave!
Would Jay consider/be open to marrying again? I think that’s very smart.
I would encourage Jay to use the yr to read up or study up on poly and also do self assessment if he can truly handle this.

I have to admit the one word in the title of your thread is what really brought me. “Anchor." Who wants to be the anchor, the heavy object we throw over the side? I get the analogy or metaphor, I just don’t think I’d try to sell it that way to a mono guy.
 
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I was thinking a mono guy might want / need this escalation for emotional security.

Yup, definitely understand the financial or economics of that.

HA 🤣 Toilet repair has never been a “ team activity," in my experience... But I get your point.

Would Jay consider/be open to marrying again? I think that’s very smart.
I would encourage Jay to use the yr to read up or study up on poly and also do self assessment if he can truly handle this.
I'm not sure if Jay would be open to marrying again . . I know I won't ever be again. He was burned pretty bad by his divorce, and I have been divorced twice. It's very easy to get married, very complicated to get divorced, even under friendly terms (as my divorces were). I don't think he needs that escalation for security. If he does, too bad. ;-)
 
I'm not sure if Jay would be open to marrying again . . I know I won't ever be again. He was burned pretty bad by his divorce, and I have been divorced twice.
I wasn’t aware of that history. That said, it seems like that’s not something you’ll have to worry about or face. 👍😉

It's very easy to get married, very complicated to get divorced, even under friendly terms (as my divorces were).
I agree 100%. I don’t get why young poly people want to/need to put themselves through that.


I don't think he needs that escalation for security. If he does, too bad. ;-)
Yes, moving in might be the top floor in terms of commitment and security. 😝🤣
 
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